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From: Arne Fitzenreiter <arne_f@ipfire.org>
To: development@lists.ipfire.org
Subject: Re: Core Update 170 testing report - "next/06b4164d" crashes on my x86_64 testing machine
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 08:23:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0b179153c471b0fe6b9d87486bdef423@ipfire.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21efe16c-bad8-c9a0-dede-10762d269cd0@ipfire.org>

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Am 2022-08-08 17:47, schrieb Peter Müller:
> Hello Arne,
> 
> thanks for reporting back.
> 
> This means the slab cache patch is the problem.

Im not sure. I fear it could be the RANDSTRUCT because after a version 
update of the kernel
it not use the ccache at first build and after a small config change it 
could break if parts of
the kernel used from cache and some not.

At the moment i test a clean build without ccache but enabled slub cache 
patch. If this work
it is the RANDSTRUCT change.

Arne

> 
> Unfortunately, my local C-cache appears to be completely messed up now, 
> so I
> will have to start with a clean cache, hence it will probably take me 
> until
> tomorrow to have some testing results ready.
> 
> Will keep you updated.
> 
> Thanks, and best regards,
> Peter Müller
> 
> 
>> With this 
>> https://nightly.ipfire.org/next/2022-08-06%2007:45:02%20+0000-43df4a03/
>> nightly the kernel 5.15.59 boots on real hardware (x86_64 and aarch64)
>> After
>> commit 06b4164dfe269704976b52421edbbbdf3b345679
>> Author: Peter Müller <peter.mueller(a)ipfire.org>
>> Date:   Mon Aug 1 17:39:59 2022 +0000
>> 
>>     linux: Do not allow slab caches to be merged
>> 
>> 
>> it doesn't boot anymore. (also tested on x86_64 and aarch64)
>> 
>> Arne
>> 
>> 
>> Am 2022-08-08 12:22, schrieb Michael Tremer:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>>> On 8 Aug 2022, at 11:16, Peter Müller <peter.mueller(a)ipfire.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Michael, hello Arne,
>>>> 
>>>> just a quick reply: I think we are dealing with the combination of 
>>>> two issues here,
>>>> as kernel 5.15.59 without slab cache merging disabled won't even 
>>>> boot in a VM (the
>>>> screen stays blank indefinitely), and it crashes straight away with 
>>>> the slab cache
>>>> merging patch.
>>>> 
>>>> Since kernel 5.15.57 is running perfectly fine here with randstruct 
>>>> enabled, and has
>>>> been for days, I just reverted both the update to 5.15.59 and the 
>>>> slab cache patch.
>>>> For the time being, I would leave randstruct enabled, since it does 
>>>> not seem to be a
>>>> root cause for whatever bug(s) we are dealing with at the moment.
>>> 
>>> Is that from the first build or a consecutive one?
>>> 
>>>> @Arne: Were you able to boot 5.15.59 successfully on hardware? If 
>>>> so, did it also
>>>> boot properly in a VirtualBox VM?
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies for this coming up so unexpected.
>>> 
>>> Well, things break. We should however be fast to have at least a
>>> booting kernel in the tree so that we won’t crash any more systems.
>>> 
>>> And if that requires to revert both patches until we know for certain
>>> which one is the bad one, I find that the best option.
>>> 
>>> -Michael
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, and best regards,
>>>> Peter Müller
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You seem to have a very classic NULL pointer dereference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Something is trying to follow a NULL pointer. And that isn’t 
>>>>> possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now it is interesting to know why that is. The cap_capable function 
>>>>> hasn’t been touched in the 5.15 tree in a while. The same goes for 
>>>>> ns_capable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would therefore suspect that this is some issue from the 
>>>>> RANDSTRUCT plugin which seems to be incompatible with ccache.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have built a kernel with a random seed for the first time, 
>>>>> that will be put into the cache. If the next build is unmodified, 
>>>>> the kernel with come out of the cache and will be exactly the same 
>>>>> as the previous build.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you however modify some parts of the kernel (a minor release for 
>>>>> example) you will only compile the changed parts BUT with a 
>>>>> different seed for the randstruct plugin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And I suspect that this has happened here where your code is now 
>>>>> simply reading the wrong memory.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would recommend reverting the RANDSTRUCT patch and that should 
>>>>> allow you to have a proper image again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to keep that, the only option would be to disable the 
>>>>> ccache for the kernel. The kernel is however one of the largest 
>>>>> packages and ccache works really really well here. We can discuss 
>>>>> this if we have identified RADNSTRUCT to be the culprit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2022, at 19:08, Peter Müller <peter.mueller(a)ipfire.org> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello *,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> enclosed is a screenshot of what booting the installer for Core 
>>>>>> Update 170 (dirty)
>>>>>> with kernel 5.15.57 and slab merging disabled looks like. With 
>>>>>> kernel 5.15.59, the
>>>>>> VM screen stays blank, so I had to revert this to get some 
>>>>>> results.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frankly, I don't see why the kernel suddenly does not know 
>>>>>> anything about efivarfs
>>>>>> anymore, and what's sunrpc got to do with it. For the latter,
>>>>>> /build/lib/modules/5.15.57-ipfire/kernel/net/sunrpc/auth_gss/rpcsec_gss_krb5.ko.xz
>>>>>> is still there, just as it has been in C169 before.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any ideas are appreciated. :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks, and best regards,
>>>>>> Peter Müller
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all, especially Arne,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> today, I upgraded to "IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 170 Development 
>>>>>>> Build: next/06b4164d",
>>>>>>> which primarily comes with Linux 5.15.59 and the slab cache 
>>>>>>> merging disabled. On
>>>>>>> my physical testing hardware, the boot process stalled after 
>>>>>>> several kernel trace
>>>>>>> message blocks being displayed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I was unable to recover them in detail, but they 
>>>>>>> occurred fairly
>>>>>>> early, roughly around the mounting of the root file system. Since 
>>>>>>> the machine is
>>>>>>> semi-productive (we all test in production, don't we? ;-) ), I 
>>>>>>> went back to C169
>>>>>>> and will now investigate further which change broke the update.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> An earlier version of Core Update 170 (commit 
>>>>>>> 668cf4c0d0c2dbbc607716956daace413837a8da,
>>>>>>> I believe, but it was definitely after the randstruct changes) 
>>>>>>> ran fine for days here,
>>>>>>> so it must be a pretty recent change. Will keep you updated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, and best regards,
>>>>>>> Peter Müller
>>>>>> <screenshot_c170_dirty_crash_on_boot_sunrpc_efivarfs.png>
>>>>> 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-09  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <d4d5fe5f-08c5-df44-4ba6-0a77f16bf890@ipfire.org>
2022-08-08  9:50 ` Michael Tremer
2022-08-08 10:16   ` Peter Müller
2022-08-08 10:22     ` Michael Tremer
2022-08-08 14:15       ` Arne Fitzenreiter
2022-08-08 15:47         ` Peter Müller
2022-08-09  6:23           ` Arne Fitzenreiter [this message]
2022-08-09  8:27             ` Arne Fitzenreiter
2022-08-09  9:28               ` Peter Müller
2022-08-09  9:31                 ` Michael Tremer
2022-08-09 10:26                   ` Peter Müller
2022-08-09 10:37                     ` Michael Tremer
2022-08-07 12:14 Peter Müller

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