Hey, when IPFire 2.13 was released, the latest version of strongswan was shipped with it. Apparently, some people have problems operating their VPN connections with it. This is a brief summary from my point of view: The first version with these changes that might cause trouble has been released in August 2012 with a big headline which said: Testers needed. * http://planet.ipfire.org/post/testers-needed-strongswan-5-0-0 * http://lists.ipfire.org/pipermail/development/2012-August/000039.html My mail on the mailing list states: > It should not require any manual interaction at all. Please install > and give me feedback about the connection stability and the > interoperability with other (proprietary) implementations. It's as if someone had known... If you think, we didn't have people who actually tested this, you are wrong. There were a lot of people and the reports I got of them were all like: "Yeah, this made my VPN tunnels more stable". Especially when the configuration of one connection has been edited, the other connections remained established all the time. A big advantage over the implementation in IPFire 2.11! Eight days before the final version of IPFire 2.13 was released, people started complaining. It was not a real bug report, but just a shout out "something went wrong, I could not be bothered, so I downgraded!". No technical details, no logs, no what-so-ever. Since the release, a bunch of more people complained about similar problems. Again, no one provided (or was willing to provide) information that helps to solve the problem. Nobody was even bothered to create a proper bug report in bugzilla. My VPN connections run for more than six months with strongswan 5 and I never had any problems since then. If someone really has interest in solving this, maybe it is time that you start the action and help the developers. This is not a project where you can tell people what they should do (for you). This is an Open Source project - so everyone is able to read the source code, check what changes have been made and to provide a fix. -Michael