From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Tremer To: development@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: Is this Grsecurity patch issue going to harm IPFire going forward? Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:49:10 +0100 Message-ID: <1440787750.18358.94.camel@ipfire.org> In-Reply-To: <1440779551.14090.7.camel@hughes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0795995160995778652==" List-Id: --===============0795995160995778652== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2015-08-28 at 11:32 -0500, Paul Simmons wrote: > On Fri, 2015-08-28 at 10:46 -0400, William Pechter wrote: > > Michael Tremer wrote: > > > Sure it is free software in the end and we all wouldn't do free > > > software if we didn't know this from the beginning. We do not > > > expect > > > money from every single user, because other things are even more > > > important. But at the end of the day money is needed to run the > > > project. If someone is paying that from their own pocket and an > > > other > > > one is making the huge profit, something is *clearly* wrong. > > Thank you for the in depth answer... > > > > I hope there's someone out there who will leak the name of the > > large > > company so there's a change in their behavior and a loss of > > at least a little of their customer base. > > > > Unfortunately, there's big money in computer security these days > > and > > some large companies have been buying up the Open Source > > products. I remember when Cisco replaced their sensor box under > > Solaris > > (IIRC it was Solaris, not SCO) with a Linux customized box > > with Snort... > > > > Perhaps the Open Source community needs to pool resources in some > > kind > > of cooperative to keep these projects going. > > > > At least Snort is still available after the Cisco buyout. It could > > have > > been worse and been an Oracle purchase which usually causes a pull > > of > > the open source version from the net. > > > > Bill > > > > I was about to suggest a "grsecurity sponsorship funding drive" for > IPFire, until I found that sponsorship costs $200USD/month. > > https://grsecurity.net/sponsors.php > > Crappola - I can't even come up with $10USD to send to IPFire, so I > suppose that's a bad idea. If I win a sweepstakes, I'll send the > money :-). I certainly like the idea to help funding the project. However I do not see any point in raising money to give to the lawyers to defend the trademark or to sue because of the GPL violation. That money could certainly be used better than being given to the lawyers. Just donate to the projects you use and love. Every single bit does help. It will sum up soon. -Michael > > Paul --===============0795995160995778652== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" MIME-Version: 1.0 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEKCmlRSWNCQUFC Q2dBR0JRSlY0SzBtQUFvSkVJQjU4UDl2a0FrSFdMVVAvM2JOblFyUFNyMExPYkdDZ3N5cFRqMjkK RW91OVBvRlQ4S3I0SzlaaFhqUGlNRzJYcUFuMmVkYVJmUVZSSGtSRzBUandxdndNeVNqOXVaZEI5 N2pQUDBzLwpXYkhaQTBhZmpJc25QWi9lZVBjbVoyeUdYZnpSMitLN1BtNlBTcFBlTlVyOFVnejl5 Z2RSSGNodXAvYW5ZaklNCkZ2ZGlvK21yQ3lMUUczNGhxVEpaNnY0WVREZW5vWFVhVUgzVlQxa094 ek5zK0V5S0NrRWJHVzhUZU9wOUNDY3QKcEtqb3NCRC9CSGQvWnBHRFM5b1RtT3E1V1BWYzdsM1Jx UnZJbXNKcWFZTldTOVZqck5ua3ZwYTlaenB5cWtyZApFOUxseWRScGpkOC9yNjJQclBFNHZSQXVj UHhLQjdnTWVvN0wzYktMM3BReWgvWjdXd3NOWEVVbmRybnBURGRICnF2TGdvZ0dteEJKSm5JcExr Y0JKcmJjc3dzSzF0eG5ORDM5cXdzQzgvZ1dDcW9ERjl3K1RmQVVLdlVNdDV2c0YKN2IzKzNWNjRC eVRtV0FXTmlYZVl4cWUyZ1FkWlNpTEJnNUQxSGZzS09OQXNaS05GbU5RWU83bXppeTdwNktSLwpi LzE1TnB4WTZtSGJmbS9xbkR4Q2JPVjUyY3lqQnA4SE9WNElVemk2UGlWNHZjbS9vcHl5bmZ4LzJM a0IwajEvCnF6M1ZjQ1RYaWVwSXF6K3dZSHJ2bmN6MWl3MWpYL2tCMy9kalNpNGVrVmxqMGNlSnh2 bnhKNU5hOTd0RXErR00Kckt4emdVeFVMY2l1dW9Uc0NQSk9YNzR3dkVyRUF1bkpmeFRwaWhzcjUr WEhSZzN2a25TRmY5UTBscGJ3eEhtdApjZ3lKT1ZUeDhTY1VxdjVYSUFURwo9NjVVWQotLS0tLUVO RCBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0K --===============0795995160995778652==--