Hi,

On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 21:02 +0900, Xaver4all wrote:
> I'm sorry that this information is not useful for your workflow,
> but I don't want to waste your and my time, to explain you my working
> scenario.

you must accept a certain discourse about these things. If we would
accept every patch without considering it carefully, we might have
really messed up distribution after a while. Everything that is added
must make sense, must not harm the system and must be maintained by
someone.

> But I will give two examples:
> I guess form your mail that you don't use the GUI to check the logs,
> because if you do so how do you tell how old is a given log entry.
> Or if you add a firewall rule which should only apply on workdays
> form 8-16 o'clock.
> So when you do something like this you have to connect via SSH and
> check the time
> and for the rest you use the GUI? IHO this is not very handy.
> Or do you just trust a system that is running 24/7 and you set the
> clock one's and believe that the time doesn't get messed up (even
> with an daily NTP update). There are Country's with daylight saving
> period so timezone offset could also get changed (at least on your
> workstation). 

So this a point for showing the system clock I can agree to. I would
like to suggest to add it to the already existing bar at the top,
because I think that it will fit wonderfully to the right of the speed
-o-meter which can be made a bit more narrow to make the needed space.

The time should definitely include the timezone. I am not sure if secon
ds must be included. A piece of JS that automatically updates the time
is nice, but must be optional for browsers that do not support JS.

Best,
-Michael

> 
> Kim
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 04:03:26 +0200, Xaver4all <xaver4all(a)gmx.de>
> > wrote: 
> > 
> > > But time and timezone (you do not always administrate a machine
> > > that is 
> > > in the local timezone, or maybe use the UTC time for your
> > > network) 
> > > should really be displayed in GUI. 
> > > The Uptime should also be displayed, maybe only on the home site.
> > > I don't want to check the logs when was last reboot, or if I see
> > > uptime 
> > > is short I can check the logs for the reason. 
> > I don't understand why you need that information. When I want to
> > add a firewall rule or a VPN user, I couldn't care less for any of
> > that information. So, perhaps you want to explain how exactly this
> > is useful for your working scenario. 
> > 
> > 
> > Lars 
> > 
>