Hi,

I would like to see us updating perl. However, we cannot under any
circumstances put all the modules in a single LFS file. That makes
rebuilding one module impossible and basically is against the approach
of having packages.

So if you update them, please do that individually. Start with perl
itself, then all the other modules. Please do that in one branch as
individual commits and send this all together as a patchset.

Please work closely with this list to review any problems on the way.
It is not really helpful to push a too big patchset. Unfortunately we
are already at a state where nobody reviewed all the other patches that
you and other people have sent on this list.

Best,
-Michael

On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 08:08 +0100, Marcel Lorenz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i will start a discussion for the integration of Perl 5.22.x into 
> IPFire.
> I have been working for over half a year on the files.
> 
> My motivation came from the use of SpamAssassin. This application is 
> written in Perl. The old Perl modules from IPFire are as a security 
> risk.
> 
> First i update the Perl LFS and rootfile only. All the other Perl 
> modules remain old.
> I began individual modules to update, but it was very expensive.
> 
> Since I had the idea to take all modules to one or two LFS together. 
> This has the advantage that all individual Perl modules disappear 
> make.sh from and this is clearly shorter. The two LFS files and the 
> associated Rootfiles are also easier to maintain. The individual
> Perl 
> modules in Pakfire can then also be removed. Perl is always complete
> and 
> up to date with its modules. In my mailserver branch I have this 
> development as far finished. However, I had the modules-LFS divided
> into 
> two files because make is having trouble with to large LFS files.
> 
> Also have Perl 5.22.1 integrated into the toolchain. The need still 
> less, gdbm and berkeley DB4 before.
> 
> I created three files from the many Perl files:
> perl-buildtools
> perl-modules1
> perl-modules2
> 
> The current folder size of /usr/lib/perl5 is about 75MB with Perl
> 5.22.1 
> and all modules and 55Mb with Perl 5.12.3. A Perl-Modules list can
> be 
> found here: http://people.ipfire.org/~mlorenz/mp/22/perl.txt This 
> includes all needed modules for Amavisd, all from Pakfire and many
> more. 
> All updated to the latest version from CPAN (December 2015)
> 
> Here the perl-buildtools LFS with the current modules from CPAN as
> an 
> example.
> The modules included are needed around the other current Perl modules
> to 
> build:
> 
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> #                                                                    
>     
>       #
> # IPFire.org - A linux based
> firewall                                    
>       #
> # Copyright (C) 2007-2015  IPFire Team  <info(a)ipfire.org>            
>     
>       #
> #                                                                    
>     
>       #
> # This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or
> modify   
>       #
> # it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published
> by   
>       #
> # the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License,
> or      
>       #
> # (at your option) any later
> version.                                    
>       #
> #                                                                    
>     
>       #
> # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be
> useful,        
>       #
> # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty
> of         
>       #
> # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See
> the          
>       #
> # GNU General Public License for more
> details.                           
>       #
> #                                                                    
>     
>       #
> # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public
> License      
>       #
> # along with this program.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/
> >.  
>       #
> #                                                                    
>     
>       #
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> 
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> # Definitions
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> 
> include Config
> 
> VER        = 2015.10
> 
> THISAPP    = perl-buildtools-$(VER)
> DL_FILE    = $(THISAPP).tar.gz
> DL_FROM    = $(URL_IPFIRE)
> DIR_APP    = $(DIR_SRC)/$(THISAPP)
> TARGET     = $(DIR_INFO)/$(THISAPP)
> PROG       = perl-buildtools
> DEPS       = "perl"
> PAK_VER    = 1
> 
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> # Top-level Rules
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> 
> objects = ExtUtils-Constant-0.23.tar.gz \
> 	ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.10.tar.gz \
> 	ExtUtils-Manifest-1.70.tar.gz \
> 	Module-Build-0.4214.tar.gz \
> 	Module-Metadata-1.000027.tar.gz \
> 	Perl-OSType-1.009.tar.gz \
> 	Test-Deep-0.119.tar.gz \
> 	Test-Simple-1.001014.tar.gz \
> 	version-0.9912.tar.gz
> 
> ExtUtils-Constant-0.23.tar.gz        = 
> $(DL_FROM)/ExtUtils-Constant-0.23.tar.gz
> ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.10.tar.gz       = 
> $(DL_FROM)/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.10.tar.gz
> ExtUtils-Manifest-1.70.tar.gz        = 
> $(DL_FROM)/ExtUtils-Manifest-1.70.tar.gz
> Module-Build-0.4214.tar.gz           = 
> $(DL_FROM)/Module-Build-0.4214.tar.gz
> Module-Metadata-1.000027.tar.gz      = 
> $(DL_FROM)/Module-Metadata-1.000027.tar.gz
> Perl-OSType-1.009.tar.gz             = 
> $(DL_FROM)/Perl-OSType-1.009.tar.gz
> Test-Deep-0.119.tar.gz               = $(DL_FROM)/Test-Deep-
> 0.119.tar.gz
> Test-Simple-1.001014.tar.gz          = 
> $(DL_FROM)/Test-Simple-1.001014.tar.gz
> version-0.9912.tar.gz                = $(DL_FROM)/version-
> 0.9912.tar.gz
> 
> ExtUtils-Constant-0.23.tar.gz_MD5    =
> bd3ec6d22ffab7e5cc05b1331a888d15
> ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.10.tar.gz_MD5   =
> 2639a21adee5e0a903730c12dcba08ec
> ExtUtils-Manifest-1.70.tar.gz_MD5    =
> 8ccb9c1f3bca14c117a74bc7b43be095
> Module-Build-0.4214.tar.gz_MD5       =
> 7b7ca5a47bef48c50c8b5906ca3ac7fb
> Module-Metadata-1.000027.tar.gz_MD5  =
> a0bf9b900dfd49c57702de3ee3801d42
> Perl-OSType-1.009.tar.gz_MD5         =
> 9e0cae3812bc80815f00732bde1b7e61
> Test-Deep-0.119.tar.gz_MD5           =
> edb72e9b1874efe3b0c95324fb063e51
> Test-Simple-1.001014.tar.gz_MD5      =
> db7f57fd595e3e1c93c972307a88fa6e
> version-0.9912.tar.gz_MD5            =
> 404a7174f3e38e4f8fad3e1eefce5412
> 
> install : $(TARGET)
> check : $(patsubst %,$(DIR_CHK)/%,$(objects))
> download :$(patsubst %,$(DIR_DL)/%,$(objects))
> md5 : $(subst %,%_MD5,$(objects))
> dist:
> 	@$(PAK)
> 
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> # Downloading, checking, md5sum
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> 
> $(patsubst %,$(DIR_CHK)/%,$(objects)) :
> 	@$(CHECK)
> 
> $(patsubst %,$(DIR_DL)/%,$(objects)) :
> 	@$(LOAD)
> 
> $(subst %,%_MD5,$(objects)) :
> 	@$(MD5)
> 
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> # Installation Details
> #####################################################################
> ##########
> 
> $(TARGET) : $(patsubst %,$(DIR_DL)/%,$(objects))
> 	@$(PREBUILD)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC) && tar zxf $(DIR_DL)/Perl-OSType-1.009.tar.gz
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Perl-OSType-1.009 && perl Makefile.PL
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Perl-OSType-1.009 && make $(MAKETUNING)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Perl-OSType-1.009 && make install
> 	@rm -rf $(DIR_SRC)/Perl-OSType-1.009
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC) && tar zxf $(DIR_DL)/version-0.9912.tar.gz
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/version-0.9912 && perl Makefile.PL
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/version-0.9912 && make $(MAKETUNING)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/version-0.9912 && make install
> 	@rm -rf $(DIR_SRC)/version-0.9912
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC) && tar zxf $(DIR_DL)/Module-Metadata-
> 1.000027.tar.gz
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Module-Metadata-1.000027 && perl Makefile.PL
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Module-Metadata-1.000027 && make $(MAKETUNING)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Module-Metadata-1.000027 && make install
> 	@rm -rf $(DIR_SRC)/Module-Metadata-1.000027
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC) && tar zxf $(DIR_DL)/Module-Build-0.4214.tar.gz
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Module-Build-0.4214 && perl Makefile.PL
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Module-Build-0.4214 && make $(MAKETUNING)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Module-Build-0.4214 && make install
> 	@rm -rf $(DIR_SRC)/Module-Build-0.4214
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC) && tar zxf $(DIR_DL)/Test-Deep-0.119.tar.gz
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Test-Deep-0.119 && perl Makefile.PL
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Test-Deep-0.119 && make $(MAKETUNING)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Test-Deep-0.119 && make install
> 	@rm -rf $(DIR_SRC)/Test-Deep-0.119
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC) && tar zxf $(DIR_DL)/Test-Simple-1.001014.tar.gz
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Test-Simple-1.001014 && perl Makefile.PL
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Test-Simple-1.001014 && make $(MAKETUNING)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/Test-Simple-1.001014 && make install
> 	@rm -rf $(DIR_SRC)/Test-Simple-1.001014
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC) && tar zxf $(DIR_DL)/ExtUtils-Constant-
> 0.23.tar.gz
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-Constant-0.23 && perl Makefile.PL
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-Constant-0.23 && make $(MAKETUNING)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-Constant-0.23 && make install
> 	@rm -rf $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-Constant-0.23
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC) && tar zxf $(DIR_DL)/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-
> 7.10.tar.gz
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.10 && perl Makefile.PL
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.10 && make $(MAKETUNING)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.10 && make install
> 	@rm -rf $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.10
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC) && tar zxf $(DIR_DL)/ExtUtils-Manifest-
> 1.70.tar.gz
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-Manifest-1.70 && perl Makefile.PL
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-Manifest-1.70 && make $(MAKETUNING)
> 	cd $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-Manifest-1.70 && make install
> 	@rm -rf $(DIR_SRC)/ExtUtils-Manifest-1.70
> 	@$(POSTBUILD)
> 
> That would be my suggestion for integration of Perl 5.22.1. On
> request, 
> I can create big patches and send it to the mailing list. Perl
> 5.22.x 
> works are in several months generated by my ISO's unremarkable. It
> is 
> known that a few startup scripts need to be adjusted (amavisd).
> 
> Please forgive me my simple English... Google translator helped me.
> :)
> 
> Greetings,
> Marcel Lorenz