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From: Adolf Belka <adolf.belka@ipfire.org>
To: development@lists.ipfire.org
Subject: Re: Dropping Python 2 (python-mechanize + knock on effects)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 14:31:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bcb10ad-c21b-7a23-6e52-1edf3b159bf2@ipfire.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74B08C60-EBDB-4C2E-83E0-A5EB5A0C3C5E@ipfire.org>

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Hi All,

I went to have a look at updating python-mechanize to python3. This can be done, there is a release from end of 2019 which is python3 compatible.

Noticed that it has a dependency of python-clientform. This turns out to have been obsoleted in 2008 and mechanize now provides the same API as clientform did. So clientform can be removed.

Then noticed that python-mechanize is a dependency in python-feedparser and both are dependencies for python-rssdler.

feedparser has a more up to date version which is also python compatible but I noticed that it's purpose is to parse Atom and RSS feeds in python and I wonder if this is really something we want in a firewall.

Looking at python-rssdler it is from the google code archive and the version was released in 2008. The most current version is from 2009 and nothing has been done since then with it. The purpose of this module is to automatically download enclosures and other objects linked to various RSS feeds such as podcasts, videocasts and torrents.

Again this doesn't seem to be the sort of module to have in a firewall and especially when it is 12 years old.


My proposal would be to remove python-rssdler, python-feedparser and python-clientform. python-mechanize could be updated to a python3 version if it is believed to be required but my view would be to also remove this. It's purpose is to provide stateful, programmatic web browsing, including ftp,http and file:URL schemes etc. More can be found at https://pypi.org/project/mechanize/


I would appreciate your feedback before I do anything further here as I may not have the whole picture of what these addons are being used for.


Regards,

Adolf.


On 05/05/2021 16:27, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to talk about what has been discussed at the last developer conference call this week: Dropping Python 2
>
> This version of Python has reached its end of life and will no longer receive any security fixes. Hence we need to get rid of it as soon as possible.
>
> However, there is lots of software that still depends on it which has to be migrated away first.
>
> There are at least the following packages:
>
> boost
> fetchmail
> fireinfo
> iotop
> ipaddr
> libxml2
> libxslt
> newt
> nmap
> python
> python-clientform
> python-daemon
> python-distutils
> python-distutils-extra
> python-docutils
> python-feedparser
> python-inotify
> python-ipaddress
> python-m2crypto
> python-mechanize
> python-optional-src
> python-pyparsing
> python-rssdler
> python-setuptools
> python-six
> python-typing
>
> We also have the following scripts:
>
> config/ca-certificates/certdata2pem.py
> config/unbound/unbound-dhcp-leases-bridge
>
> Fireinfo is written by us and has a lot of C which will make it a little bit more difficult to migrate. We would also have to be very careful to not change any behaviour of the current implementation.
>
> The rest is probably either software that is entirely written in Python 2 or software that brings bindings for Python. The latter case is easy because we can either force it to build with Python 3 or we just disable the bindings.
>
> Ultimately we might need to keep Python around in the build system if there are other packages that rely on it. However, it would be great if we were able to remove it from the distribution very soon. Looking at his list, it does not seem to be too difficult.
>
> Would anyone be up to help and remove Python from any of those packages above? I would like to aim for Core Update 158 and remove as much stuff as possible - if we can everything - and then remove Python 2 in the update after that. If anyone has any custom scripts or applications, people will have some time to migrate away.
>
> Best,
> -Michael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-12 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-05 14:27 Dropping Python 2 Michael Tremer
2021-05-05 16:49 ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-05 17:12   ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-05 21:46     ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-05 22:30   ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-06 19:40     ` Dropping Python 2 - question about boost Adolf Belka
2021-05-07 11:00       ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-07 11:16 ` Migrating fireinfo to Python 3 Michael Tremer
2021-05-07 11:16   ` [PATCH 01/10] configure: Link against " Michael Tremer
2021-05-07 11:16   ` [PATCH 02/10] _fireinfo: Migrate to " Michael Tremer
2021-05-07 11:16   ` [PATCH 03/10] _fireinfo: Refactor some code Michael Tremer
2021-05-07 11:16   ` [PATCH 04/10] Run 2to3 Michael Tremer
2021-05-07 11:21     ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-14 12:10   ` Migrating fireinfo to Python 3 Adolf Belka
2021-05-14 12:13     ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-17 13:59       ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-18 10:29         ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-11 10:37 ` Dropping Python 2 (Problem with ipaddr) Adolf Belka
2021-05-11 10:40   ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-15 11:51     ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-11 12:18 ` Dropping Python 2 (questions about python modules that are in python3 and python2 versions) Adolf Belka
2021-05-12 18:34   ` Jonatan Schlag
2021-05-13 17:36     ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-11 13:24 ` Dropping Python 2 (problems with libxml2 and libxslt) Adolf Belka
2021-05-11 13:25   ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-11 13:31     ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-12 11:07 ` Dropping Python 2 (python-distutils & python-distutils-extra) Adolf Belka
2021-05-12 17:11   ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-12 12:31 ` Adolf Belka [this message]
2021-05-14 19:28 ` Dropping Python 2 (python-m2crypto) Adolf Belka
2021-05-15 21:03   ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-16 14:16     ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-20 10:15   ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-20 10:30     ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-20 11:21       ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-22 12:25     ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-25 10:03       ` Michael Tremer
2021-05-29 14:31         ` Jonatan Schlag
2021-05-29 16:19           ` Adolf Belka
2021-05-15  8:28 ` Dropping Python 2 (python-optional-src) Adolf Belka
2021-05-15  8:41   ` Adolf Belka

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