Re: Call for small translation (for [PATCH 1/9] pakfire: Refactor dblist seperating UI and logic)

[Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire.org>]

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Hello Robin,

> On 29 Jun 2022, at 23:31, Robin Roevens <robin.roevens(a)disroot.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi again all
> 
> I was noticed today that patch for which I required some opinion and
> small german translation (see below) would solve 
> https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12868
> 
> But I'm still waiting for confirmation of you guys about this last
> small (translation) issue..
> 
> As (I think) I have cornered all remarks Michael had about that patch-
> set (https://patchwork.ipfire.org/project/ipfire/list/?series=2650) in
> a reworked patch-set sitting here, ready for submission (already for
> more than 3 months). 
> 
> I do understand that there are busy periods and things with higher
> priorities.. and that I need patience, certainly with some of the
> bigger sets I submitted up until now, but, especially in this case, I
> don't think it should take 3 months+ just to know if I should translate
> "traffic" now that I'm on it and if so, what the translation should
> be? This is a bit demotivating for me..

I agree and I can only apologise.

Email chains sometimes get very long and I always try to set some time aside for it to work through them. It is a lot easier to just type a few lines as a response to a very short email.

I am very much interested in your work and I am trying to support you as much as I can. I hope others will be able to contribute, too, and together we will get this over the line.

I believe that the delays are indeed making it at lot harder because I feel like I have to invest more time to figure out where we left off.
 
> For now I only know the opinion of Leo, so please, contribute to the
> discussion so that a decision can be made and that I can finally submit
> the reworked version of the patch-set which then can hopefully be
> implemented soon and as a bonus, even solve bug 12868.

That sounds good to me. Thank you!

-Michael

> Regards
> 
> Robin
> 
> Robin Roevens schreef op do 23-06-2022 om 23:01 [+0200]:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I was forgotten about this a bit due to personal matters happening
>> here
>> and no further replies from you guys.
>> 
>> So should I reword "Traffic" on de page headers to "Internet" as Leo
>> suggested below, or rather to "RED Traffic" as I suggested, assuming
>> a
>> user could also use the  red interface for some other untrusted
>> network, not being the internet specifically.
>> 
>> And in case it should become "RED Traffic". How should I translate
>> this
>> in german? Would that be "ROTER Traffic" or should I rather translate
>> it to "ROTER Verkehr" ? Or ?
>> 
>> Dutch would be "ROOD Verkeer" and French "Trafic ROUGE"
>> 
>> Regards
>> Robin
>> 
>> Robin Roevens schreef op wo 20-04-2022 om 23:19 [+0200]:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Leo Hofmann schreef op wo 20-04-2022 om 13:17 [+0200]:
>>>> Hi Robin,
>>>> 
>>>> Am 19.04.2022 um 21:14 schrieb Robin Roevens:
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> 
>>>>> After implementing and testing the translation discussed below,
>>>>> I
>>>>> noticed that in every page footer of the WUI there is also a
>>>>> mention of
>>>>> "Core Update XXX", which I assume should then also be
>>>>> translated
>>>>> with
>>>>> below 'core update' translation string?
>>>>> 
>>>>> This footer is generated in
>>>>> html/themes/ipfire/include/functions.pl;
>>>>> And there I found also the "Traffic: In: XXX bit/s Out: XXX
>>>>> bit/s"
>>>>> header is generated, so I took the opportunity to also
>>>>> translate
>>>>> that
>>>>> string:
>>>>> 
>>>>> En:
>>>>> 'traffic stat title' => 'Traffic',
>>>>> 'traffic stat in' => 'In',
>>>>> 'traffic stat out' => 'Out',
>>>>>   Nl:
>>>>> 'traffic stat title' => 'Verkeer',
>>>>> 'traffic stat in' => 'In',
>>>>> 'traffic stat out' => 'Uit',
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fr:
>>>>> 'traffic stat title' => 'Trafic',
>>>>> 'traffic stat in' => 'Entrée',
>>>>> 'traffic stat out' => 'Sortie',
>>>>> 
>>>>> De:
>>>>> 'traffic stat title' => 'Traffic',
>>>>> 'traffic stat in' => 'Ein',
>>>>> 'traffic stat out' => 'Aus',
>>>>> 
>>>>> Could anyone confirm the german translation for this ? (I'm
>>>>> mainly
>>>>> doubting 'Ein' as it translates to "one" for me, so I'm not
>>>>> sure
>>>>> if
>>>>> it
>>>>> translates to 'in' also in this context ?)
>>>> In the traffic graphs we use "Eingehender Verkehr" and
>>>> "Ausgehender
>>>> Verkehr". So in my opinion, "Ein" would be a suitable short form.
>>>>> And for 'Traffic' I wondered
>>>>> if that shouldn't be 'Verkehr'?
>>>> 
>>>> AFAIK, this only represents traffic on RED and not the total
>>>> firewall
>>>> load.
>>>> Maybe we should change it to "Internet", "WAN traffic" or
>>>> something
>>>> similar?
>>> Maybe we should name it "RED Traffic" then?  That should cover any
>>> special purpose/config a user gave to the RED interface.
>>> 
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Leo
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm quite certain about the french translation, but I'll check
>>>>> with
>>>>> Stéphane anyway if there are maybe more appropriate words in
>>>>> this
>>>>> context.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unless it is decided here that we should not translate those
>>>>> things
>>>>> in
>>>>> the header and footer of the WUI?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robin
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael Tremer schreef op ma 28-03-2022 om 15:03 [+0100]:
>>>>>> Guys, what is happening here? Did you all forget you spoke
>>>>>> German?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Robin, please use these strings for German:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 'core update' => ‘Core-Update',
>>>>>> 'pak update' => ‘Paketupdate',
>>>>>> 'release' => ‘Release',
>>>>>> 'version' => 'Version',
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 28 Mar 2022, at 07:18, Robin
>>>>>>> Roevens<robin.roevens(a)disroot.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I received a French translation from Stéphane.
>>>>>>> Any other translations? German?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Robin Roevens<robin.roevens(a)disroot.org>  schreef op 23
>>>>>>> maart
>>>>>>> 2022
>>>>>>> 22:09:53 CET:
>>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For the changes in "[PATCH 1/9] pakfire: Refactor dblist
>>>>>>> seperating
>>>>>>> UI
>>>>>>> and logic", Michael pointed out that we should take
>>>>>>> advantage
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> code change to translate a few extra strings:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 'core update' => 'Core-Update',
>>>>>>> 'pak update' => 'Update',
>>>>>>> 'release' => 'Release',
>>>>>>> 'version' => 'Version',
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As used on pakfire.cgi listing the available updates:
>>>>>>> $Lang::tr{'core update'} -- $pakfire_status{'CoreVersion'}
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> $Lang::tr{'release'}: $pakfire_status{'Release'} ->
>>>>>>> $pakfire_status{'AvailableRelease'}
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>> Core-Update -- 2.27-x86-64 -- Release: 163 -> 164
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> $Lang::tr{'pak update'}: $pak -- $Lang::tr{'version'}:
>>>>>>> $upgradelist{$pak}{'ProgVersion'} ->
>>>>>>> $upgradelist{$pak}{'AvailableProgVersion'} --
>>>>>>> $Lang::tr{'release'}:
>>>>>>> $upgradelist{$pak}{'Release'} ->
>>>>>>> $upgradelist{$pak}{'AvailableRelease'}
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>> Update: zabbix-agentd -- Version: 4.2.6 -> 5.0.21 --
>>>>>>> Release:
>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>> ->
>>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could anyone on this list capable of translating these 4
>>>>>>> strings in
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> other language please reply with translations, so that I
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> immediately integrate them in the patch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I already have translations for Dutch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>> 
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