From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Tremer To: development@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: On demoting i586 to "legacy" status Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:24:07 +0100 Message-ID: <25A54D6D-0B53-4F99-A56B-1F1847B57DAA@ipfire.org> In-Reply-To: <3B847F61-1645-46C6-897A-B455B0E09F2E@ipfire.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5908001294309145464==" List-Id: --===============5908001294309145464== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On 5 Aug 2020, at 13:08, Michael Tremer wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > This is me catching up with my very very long TODO list (i.e. book)=E2=80=A6 >=20 > We have talked about making it clearer that 32 bit on x86 is no longer a go= od choice for users at the telephone conference in May: >=20 > https://wiki.ipfire.org/devel/telco/2020-05-04 >=20 > I took on the job to make this clearer on the website in the download secti= on which I rolled out yesterday: >=20 > https://www.ipfire.org/download >=20 > I am not happy with the whole download section at all, but this is what we = have for now. New design is in the works. >=20 > However, this splits the offered architectures into two sections now: >=20 > * Primary Architectures (x86_64, arm) > * Secondary Architectures (i586, aarch64) >=20 > i586 will be a primary architecture for all releases that did not have x86_= 64. >=20 > Aarch64 is a secondary architecture because Arne wanted it marked as =E2=80= =9Cexperimental=E2=80=9D. We do not exactly know how well it runs on some boa= rds, although we have been using it for quite a long time in the build infras= tructure. >=20 > I have split the two sections by the =E2=80=9CCloud advert=E2=80=9D in the = middle which promotes Cloud over the secondary arches and makes it clear that= secondary really means secondary because users will have to scroll a lot to = find i586 now. That does it for me now. >=20 > I would prefer to keep images on the download page (even for aarch64), beca= use if we do not make them available like this, what is the point to build th= em in the first place? >=20 > The next steps are adding a warning to the web UI that people who are runni= ng on i586 are running a legacy system now. We will support it, but we will a= dvice against using it until we have only a few users left. Currently i686 st= ands at 26.75% in fire info, which means we have to convince 20% of our users= to change. Possible, but not within the next few months. A blog article will= hopefully help. https://patchwork.ipfire.org/patch/3294/ >=20 > Best, > -Michael --===============5908001294309145464==--