From: Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire.org>
To: ummeegge <ummeegge@ipfire.org>
Cc: development@lists.ipfire.org
Subject: Re: ZONEMD Records in DBL RPZ Zones Break Unbound DNSSEC Priming
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2026 10:13:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <490AD19B-AFF1-48C2-A98B-F9095AC35FA2@ipfire.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <158b16aa7a943cfc02d5d444521b93bbe33f7e1e.camel@ipfire.org>
Hello Erik,
Where has it been sent to? To this list?
I did not receive anything.
-Michael
> On 17 Feb 2026, at 09:18, ummeegge <ummeegge@ipfire.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Michael,
> sure. Patch has been delivered.
>
> Best,
>
> Erik
>
> Am Montag, dem 16.02.2026 um 16:11 +0000 schrieb Michael Tremer:
>> Hello Erik,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> Good to hear that your problem could be solved upstream.
>>
>> Will you provide a patch to fix this in IPFire before the next
>> release of Unbound?
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>> On 16 Feb 2026, at 13:30, ummeegge <ummeegge@ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, it took longer since I discovered it and I simply wanted to
>>> share
>>> the insights with you all – thought it makes sense.
>>>
>>> Issue was opened yesterday:
>>> https://github.com/NLnetLabs/unbound/issues/1404
>>> The fix has been committed today to the maintainer's fork:
>>> https://github.com/dwongdev/unbound/commit/16e1e6d375e93e6c00c9b5d20ec4e50fb55d961f
>>> It's a kind of "Root Cause Analysis" that delivered it there, and
>>> the
>>> issue is meanwhile marked as 'completed' (low hanging fruit ;-) ).
>>> Hopefully it will soon be merged upstream.
>>>
>>> Have also tested the patch here now and it works like it should:
>>> AXFR/IXFR with multiple DBL zones, no problems at all.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>> Am Montag, dem 16.02.2026 um 11:35 +0000 schrieb Michael Tremer:
>>>> Hello Erik,
>>>>
>>>> This is a *very* long email to tell us about a bug in Unbound.
>>>>
>>>> Did you report your problem there?
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>>> On 15 Feb 2026, at 11:58, ummeegge <ummeegge@ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We've identified a compatibility issue with the IPFire Domain
>>>>> Blocklist
>>>>> (DBL) RPZ zones. These zones contain a ZONEMD record (Type 63)
>>>>> at
>>>>> the
>>>>> zone apex (e.g., ads.rpz.ipfire.org. 60 IN ZONEMD ...),
>>>>> intended
>>>>> for
>>>>> data integrity checks. This record causes a critical failure in
>>>>> Unbound
>>>>> DNS resolver when used with RPZ.
>>>>>
>>>>> Impact was here:
>>>>>
>>>>> DNSSEC Failure: Unbound does not ignore the ZONEMD record
>>>>> during
>>>>> RPZ processing and mistakenly interprets the zone apex record
>>>>> as a
>>>>> policy rule for the root name (.).
>>>>>
>>>>> Symptoms: After loading more than one IPFire RPZ zone or
>>>>> modifying
>>>>> the configuration file and restarting/reloading Unbound, the
>>>>> resolver
>>>>> fails to prime its DNSSEC trust anchor. Typical log entries:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> unbound: info: rpz: applied [dbl-ads] . rpz-local-data .
>>>>> DNSKEY
>>>>> IN
>>>>> unbound: info: failed to prime trust anchor -- could not
>>>>> fetch
>>>>> DNSKEY rrset . DNSKEY IN
>>>>>
>>>>> Result: All DNSSEC validation fails, rendering the resolver
>>>>> unable
>>>>> to
>>>>> resolve any domain names and effectively breaking DNS
>>>>> resolution
>>>>> for
>>>>> the entire network.
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue affects more users, as confirmed by Unbound GitHub
>>>>> Issue
>>>>> #1404 (verified in Unbound 1.24.1/1.24.2) and potentially also
>>>>> #1152.
>>>>>
>>>>> Technical Cause:
>>>>>
>>>>> In Unbound's RPZ implementation (services/rpz.c), the function
>>>>> rpz_type_ignored() filters out DNSSEC-related records (DNSKEY,
>>>>> RRSIG,
>>>>> NSEC, etc.) to prevent them from being treated as policy rules.
>>>>> ZONEMD
>>>>> (RFC 8976, Type 63) is missing from this ignore list – this is
>>>>> IMHO
>>>>> an
>>>>> Unbound bug.
>>>>>
>>>>> Loading process:
>>>>>
>>>>> Unbound reads the apex ZONEMD record.
>>>>>
>>>>> rpz_type_ignored(63) returns 0 → record gets processed.
>>>>>
>>>>> strip_dname_origin() removes the zone name → empty label
>>>>> (.).
>>>>>
>>>>> A rpz-local-data rule for . is created, blocking root DNSKEY
>>>>> priming queries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: A detailed analysis and proposed fix (add case
>>>>> LDNS_RR_TYPE_ZONEMD: to rpz_type_ignored()) has been submitted
>>>>> to
>>>>> Unbound Issue #1404. The root cause lies with Unbound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reproduction Steps:
>>>>>
>>>>> Configure one IPFire DBL RPZ zone (e.g., ads.rpz.ipfire.org)
>>>>> following the instructions from
>>>>> https://www.ipfire.org/dbl/how-to-use .
>>>>>
>>>>> Restart Unbound → zone gets cached (may still work
>>>>> initially).
>>>>>
>>>>> Modify the configuration or add a second zone and restart
>>>>> Unbound
>>>>> again → priming failure appears in logs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tested with Unbound 1.24.1 on IPFire Core 199 and Unbound
>>>>> 1.24.2 on
>>>>> Rocky Linux 8.10 (on Unbounds Github). Single zone may load
>>>>> initially,
>>>>> but fails reliably with config changes or by adding multiple
>>>>> zones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Current temporary workaround:
>>>>>
>>>>> Remove ZONEMD records post-download via script (e.g., cron job
>>>>> after
>>>>> AXFR):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sed -i '/IN[[:space:]]\+ZONEMD/d'
>>>>> /var/lib/unbound/*.rpz.ipfire.org.zone
>>>>>
>>>>> Then reload Unbound.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While Unbound developers might likely investigate and may fix
>>>>> rpz_type_ignored() (Issue #1404), which way should IPFire users
>>>>> go
>>>>> until then – since this blocks testing the Beta DBL usage with
>>>>> Unbound
>>>>> (great project)? Haven´t tested a patched version of Unbound
>>>>> since
>>>>> i
>>>>> have currently no build environment around but if again, am
>>>>> happy
>>>>> to
>>>>> test preview versions!
>>>>>
>>>>> May someone have similar problems or even another workaround or
>>>>> potential Fix for this ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Erik
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-17 10:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-15 11:58 ummeegge
2026-02-16 11:35 ` Michael Tremer
2026-02-16 13:30 ` ummeegge
2026-02-16 16:11 ` Michael Tremer
2026-02-17 9:18 ` ummeegge
2026-02-17 10:13 ` Michael Tremer [this message]
2026-02-17 12:29 ` ummeegge
2026-02-17 15:44 ` Michael Tremer
2026-02-17 18:14 ` ummeegge
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