From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: morlix To: development@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: =?utf-8?q?Unterst=C3=BCtzung?= Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:50:04 +0100 Message-ID: <50DC0BBC.9000600@morlix.de> In-Reply-To: <1356538718.8107.81.camel@rice-oxley.tremer.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1687279680856761669==" List-Id: --===============1687279680856761669== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Michael, first i wanna thank you for your answer. I think i just forgot to imagine how much you guys have to do with the IPFire development. I appreciate that and i will try to support as much and good as possible. I already received the updates on the bugs i created and i will try to provide the requested informations as fast as possible. Kind regards, morlix Am 26.12.2012 17:18, schrieb Michael Tremer: > Hey Timo, > > I am replying in English, because that is the language of this list. > > On Wed, 2012-12-26 at 12:42 +0100, morlix wrote: >> Hallo zusammen, >> >> ich verwende jetzt schon ziemlich lange IPFire und bin eigentlich mit >> dem Produkt sehr zufrieden. >> >> Was mich allerdings etwas stört, ist die meiner Meinung nach schlechte >> Reaktion auf Hilfe die ich anbiete, wobei ich mit dieser Email gerne >> auch erfahren will, was ich eventuell falsch gemacht habe. > > First of all, you did not make anything wrong. In fact, it is very good > to create bugs in the bugtracker with really important tasks. Bugs have > the advantage, that we don't forget about them. > >> Ich meine damit folgendes. Ich habe 2 Bugs im Bugtracker geöffnet und >> niemand bearbeitet diese, obwohl es meiner Meinung nach kein großer >> Aufwand wäre. > > Currently, the IPFire developers are busy. And in addition, it's > Christmas, which means that in December there is not going anything on. > > Despite celebrating the holidays, we are making the finishing touches on > IPFire 2.13 and we are also working a lot on IPFire 3. A lot of this > work is totally invisible to most people - which is a bit sad, but it > still needs to be done. > > The first thing that we drop are the "little beans", i.e. bug reports > that do minor changes. If we would focus on them, we wouldn't have a > chance to push through big changes. The world evolves very fast and > keeping up with that is a thing were a lot of work is being put it. > Constantly. Hours. Every day. > > Keep that in mind. Some people try to push us doing things we scheduled > in a different order and this often leads to not doing anything at all. > At last, we are all volunteers. > >> Es geht dabei um folgende Bugs: >> >> 10065 New Bacula 5.2.6 FileDaemon Addon >> (https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10065) >> 10233 Severall small improvements for the backiso script >> (https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10233) >> >> Also die konkrete Frage ist, was muss ich tun oder ändern, damit das was >> ich als Unterstützung einreiche auch Beachtung findet. > > What you did is exactly the right thing. Do as much work on your own as > possible. If you got stuck with a problem, ask for help. But don't > expect the developers to solve your problems. We have got our own. > > In this particular problem: #10223 won't be merged into IPFire 2.13, > because that one is frozen. We only fix bugs. > > The other one is more complicated. The patch is around since March and > has been assigned to Arne. He will eventually do what has to be done > with it, but that is a lot of work. Because no one uses Bacula and hence > it is hard to test what you have been done there. > The best thing you could do is to distribute a binary version of this > add-on and get more people to test it. If we have the evidence that more > people successfully tested this add-on, we don't have to do much testing > on our own. > >> Ich frage dies deshalb, da ich in meinem ipfire 2.x clone an den >> conntrack-tools, einem update für Bacula und check_mk für IPFire arbeite >> und ich diese Arbeit gerne in euer Projekt einfließen lassen würde. > > Of course we value the work that you are doing. Even if we are very > quiet about that. > >> Mir ist klar das ihr lieber Supporter hättet die sehr aktiv in Forum und >> Maillingliste sind, aber ich habe selbst sehr viel zu tun mit meiner >> Arbeit und daher kann ich nur anbieten was ich eben nebenher noch >> leisten kann. > > Everyone does as much as possible and if we keep that in mind and live > by that every day, we will get things solved very soon. > > Thanks for your post. I will write some more comments on the bugs about > problems I have with them. > > Have a Merry Christmas, > -Michael > --===============1687279680856761669==--