Using xhtml strict or html5 for the web gui ?

Using xhtml strict or html5 for the web gui ?

[Alf Høgemark]

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Hi

I was trying to validate the html pages of the web GUI of Ipfire.
Although having pages that passes a validator is not absolutely 
requried, I think it makes styling easier, and it makes
good sense to make sure table cells and rows are properly closed etc 
etc. It is a kind of indicator of code quality.

I then noticed that the ipfire web GUI is using the doctype for xhtml 
strict.

But the actual html itself seems to be a bit old style, with lots of 
align, valign attributes on tags, which will not validate
as xhtml, even if all the tags are properly closed.

Have you considered going for "html5" doctype ?
Using html5, I think it would require a lot less cleanup to make the 
pages validate.

And when a page validates, it makes it easier to test the page using a 
validator after you make code changes, to make sure it still validates.


Regards
Alf Høgemark

Re: Using xhtml strict or html5 for the web gui ?

[Michael Tremer]

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Hi Alf,

indeed the quality of the generated HTML of the CGI scripts is a mess.

That is one of the main reasons, why we decided to ditch the webUI as it
is now and rewrite it from scratch in IPFire 3 in Python.

The new theme that comes with IPFire 2.15 (next branch) comes with the
HTML5 doctype and a lot of code has been improved, but I think we are
still far away from valid output.
I would welcome any patches that fix the generated HTML, but I don't
think that someone should put too much effort in it and rewrite bigger
chunks of code.

-Michael

On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 19:26 +0100, Alf Høgemark wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I was trying to validate the html pages of the web GUI of Ipfire.
> Although having pages that passes a validator is not absolutely 
> requried, I think it makes styling easier, and it makes
> good sense to make sure table cells and rows are properly closed etc 
> etc. It is a kind of indicator of code quality.
> 
> I then noticed that the ipfire web GUI is using the doctype for xhtml 
> strict.
> 
> But the actual html itself seems to be a bit old style, with lots of 
> align, valign attributes on tags, which will not validate
> as xhtml, even if all the tags are properly closed.
> 
> Have you considered going for "html5" doctype ?
> Using html5, I think it would require a lot less cleanup to make the 
> pages validate.
> 
> And when a page validates, it makes it easier to test the page using a 
> validator after you make code changes, to make sure it still validates.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Alf Høgemark
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