Re: [PATCH] actual system time and timezone info-bar to ipfire theme

[Xaver4all <xaver4all@gmx.de>]

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Hi,

Date: 2015.09.09 - 23:27:19 - From: Michael Tremer
<michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 21:02 +0900, Xaver4all wrote:
>> I'm sorry that this information is not useful for your workflow,
>> but I don't want to waste your and my time, to explain you my working
>> scenario.
> you must accept a certain discourse about these things. If we would
> accept every patch without considering it carefully, we might have
> really messed up distribution after a while. Everything that is added
> must make sense, must not harm the system and must be maintained by
> someone.
I accept the discourse and I also like the you (the developer) think
twice before you accept patches.
I didn't expect that this patch would go in the way it is now.
I just wanted to express that this patch is not bound to my personal
working scenario.
Sorry that I may phrased it a bit harsh.
>> But I will give two examples:
>> I guess form your mail that you don't use the GUI to check the logs,
>> because if you do so how do you tell how old is a given log entry.
>> Or if you add a firewall rule which should only apply on workdays
>> form 8-16 o'clock.
>> So when you do something like this you have to connect via SSH and
>> check the time
>> and for the rest you use the GUI? IHO this is not very handy.
>> Or do you just trust a system that is running 24/7 and you set the
>> clock one's and believe that the time doesn't get messed up (even
>> with an daily NTP update). There are Country's with daylight saving
>> period so timezone offset could also get changed (at least on your
>> workstation). 
> So this a point for showing the system clock I can agree to. I would
> like to suggest to add it to the already existing bar at the top,
> because I think that it will fit wonderfully to the right of the speed
> -o-meter which can be made a bit more narrow to make the needed space.
>
> The time should definitely include the timezone. I am not sure if secon
> ds must be included. A piece of JS that automatically updates the time
> is nice, but must be optional for browsers that do not support JS.
Like i have written in the forum, by end of month I will provide a
different version.
I agree to perhaps drop the seconds, as it's a good way to save space.
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
>> Kim
>>> Hi, 
>>>
>>> On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 04:03:26 +0200, Xaver4all <xaver4all(a)gmx.de>
>>> wrote: 
>>>
>>>> But time and timezone (you do not always administrate a machine
>>>> that is 
>>>> in the local timezone, or maybe use the UTC time for your
>>>> network) 
>>>> should really be displayed in GUI. 
>>>> The Uptime should also be displayed, maybe only on the home site.
>>>> I don't want to check the logs when was last reboot, or if I see
>>>> uptime 
>>>> is short I can check the logs for the reason. 
>>> I don't understand why you need that information. When I want to
>>> add a firewall rule or a VPN user, I couldn't care less for any of
>>> that information. So, perhaps you want to explain how exactly this
>>> is useful for your working scenario. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Lars 
>>>