From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire.org> To: development@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: Migrating our IPFire Forum to Discourse Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 14:22:24 +0000 Message-ID: <55FA0825-169E-4DA1-9DDD-4EE51F7D98F9@ipfire.org> In-Reply-To: <D45C7B8C-A880-40C8-9CB0-85BDC7DB328C@ipfire.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5209809860847772578==" List-Id: <development.lists.ipfire.org> --===============5209809860847772578== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, So since I have not received much feedback (except from Erik) I suppose we ar= e ready for the launch. Therefore I would like to invite everyone for an IPFire Community Portal Launch Party on this Monday, November 4, the usual time when we have our IPFire Telephone = Conference at 8 pm CET, in the usual conference room one. I guess this not enough of a reason to pop some champaign, but bring a nice d= rink, some good fun and we will celebrate this huge milestone together! See you there! -Michael > On 24 Oct 2019, at 10:36, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org> wrot= e: >=20 > Hello guys, >=20 > The moment is here - finally! I have set up a new server with Discourse run= ning on it - again. But this time, this all looks a lot smoother with our bri= lliant new infrastructure underneath it. >=20 > I would like to give you an update and what has happened recently and what = is going to happen, and where I need your help. >=20 >=20 > So what has happened? >=20 > I built out people.ipfire.org. You have all seen this. This is now our new = place where people register for an account and where they put in a couple of = details about themselves. Normal users might not spend too much time here, bu= t we will definitely use this a little bit more because it is the place where= we host our phone conferences, contact other people, manage accounts and so = on. >=20 > All services that we have (Bugzilla, Patchwork, Wiki, etc.) are already con= nected to it. What was missing is the forum. >=20 > Therefore I built a single-sign on solution for Discourse now. There is no = registration possible on Discourse. This is only possible through people.ipfi= re.org. >=20 > I think this is super simple, and working great! >=20 >=20 > What is going to happen next? >=20 > Since this milestone was taken now, we are ready to start our migration to = Discourse. >=20 > I have an announcement post ready (https://blog.ipfire.org/post/the-new-ipf= ire-community-portal, https://community.ipfire.org/t/welcome-to-the-new-ipfir= e-community-portal/24/4), but I am not going to send this out, yet. Inviting = people to an empty forum is a bit like walking into an empty restaurant - it = feels a bit awkward. >=20 > So, before we start with the migration process as outlined in this post, I = would like you to log in to Discourse, play around a little bit, find some th= ings that might need change. Even start a post on something so that we get th= e place a little bit more lively. >=20 > The new forum is called =E2=80=9CIPFire Community=E2=80=9D, because I consi= der the word forum to be a little bit dated. I have also done some changes to= how it works: There will be no German section any more, because that was alw= ays a bad idea and has to go. I would like you to help me to police that as b= est as we can. Then, I removed the =E2=80=9Cdevelopment=E2=80=9D area, becaus= e I believe that we do not need to have this on here at all. We have mailing = lists for devlopment, bugs should be reported in Bugzilla, etc. I would like = to separate those two things. The =E2=80=9Cconfiguration=E2=80=9D section is = also gone, because pretty much everything on the forum is about how to config= ure something. It was a non-category. Now, I have split this into networking = issues with some sub-sections for larger topics like QoS, Web Proxy and WiFi.= There is a security section for IPS, Firewall Rules, etc. I considered VPNs = to be important enough to have their own category. Mainly to be able to split= it into OpenVPN & IPsec, too. >=20 > I would like to hear your feedback on this. I would like to avoid having an= extra category for every single option on the web UI and every single add-on= , because simply nobody will find the correct category when there are a hundr= ed to choose from. At thee same time, when someone is searching through the f= orum, the categories should be helping them to find the right thing very quic= kly. So it is difficult to get it right I believe. >=20 >=20 > The challenges ahead >=20 > The whole migration is risky, we all need to do our best to keep the conver= sation going and invite people over. Blocking access to the old forum will pr= obably make people rather angry than anything else. This has to happen, soone= r rather than later, but we should try to make it as smooth as possible. >=20 > This is a great opportunity now for a fresh start and I am looking forward = to be able to talk to more people of our community. It is large, but people d= o not chat much. Hopefully that will change. >=20 > I will need to do some things on the backend. We only have one LDAP/Kerbero= s server right now and we need more for redundancy. The user experience of pe= ople.ipfire.org and the login could be slightly improved, too, but I think it= is good enough for a launch. I will improve the logos on Discourse before we= are ready to launch though. >=20 > There will also be the problem to fight spam accounts, which we now have to= implement ourselves. We will have to see how this goes, but I cannot imagine= this being even worse than what we have right now with our forum. >=20 >=20 > Okay, enough of me talking. Please head over to https://community.ipfire.or= g, log in, test, and let me know what you think. >=20 > Best, > -Michael --===============5209809860847772578==--