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From: Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire.org>
To: development@lists.ipfire.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] unbound: Increase timeout value for unknown dns-server
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 15:14:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89BEBEA5-D070-49A3-899E-12CED79D6A95@ipfire.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29ea1ac3-a966-23d6-62b1-a6ebdc216716@gmail.com>

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Hello,

> On 6 Jan 2021, at 12:02, Paul Simmons <mbatranch(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 1/6/21 4:17 AM, Jonatan Schlag wrote:
>> When unbound has no information about a DNS-server
>> a timeout of 376 msec is assumed. This works well in a lot of situations,
>> but they mention in their documentation that this could be way too low.
>> They recommend a timeout of 1126 msec for satellite connections
>> (https://nlnetlabs.nl/documentation/unbound/unbound.conf).
>> Settings this value to 1126 msec should make the first queries to an
>> unknown server, more useful.
>> They do not timeout and so these queries do not need to be sent again.
>> 
>> On a stable link, this behaviour should not have negative implications.
>> As the first result of queries arrive the timeout value gets updated,
>> and the high value of 1126 msec gets set to something useful.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Jonatan Schlag <jonatan.schlag(a)ipfire.org>
>> ---
>>  config/unbound/unbound.conf | 1 +
>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>> 
>> diff --git a/config/unbound/unbound.conf b/config/unbound/unbound.conf
>> index f78aaae8c..02f093015 100644
>> --- a/config/unbound/unbound.conf
>> +++ b/config/unbound/unbound.conf
>> @@ -62,6 +62,7 @@ server:
>>    	# Timeout behaviour
>>  	infra-keep-probing: yes
>> +	unknown-server-time-limit: 1128
>>    	# Bootstrap root servers
>>  	root-hints: "/etc/unbound/root.hints"

I am not entirely sure what this is supposed to fix.

It is possible that a DNS response takes longer than 376ms, indeed. Does it harm us if we send another packet? No.

So what is this changing in real life?

> This sounds promising to me, as I have many DNS lookup timeouts (ISP is HughesNot, er, HughesNet).

@Paul: I am not sure if the solution is to increase timeouts. In my point of view, you should change the name servers.

> 
> +1
> 
> Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-06 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-06 10:17 Jonatan Schlag
2021-01-06 12:02 ` Paul Simmons
2021-01-06 15:14   ` Michael Tremer [this message]
2021-01-06 16:19     ` Tapani Tarvainen
2021-01-06 18:01       ` Michael Tremer
2021-01-08  8:25     ` Paul Simmons
     [not found] <5BE69EAB-BD90-4999-97AE-8A89479AD080@gmail.com>
2021-01-07 11:27 ` Michael Tremer
2021-01-07 14:35   ` Tapani Tarvainen
2021-01-07 14:54     ` Michael Tremer
     [not found] <20E5B302-A896-4BD2-BAD1-9D6A50831514@ipfire.org>
2021-01-09 15:04 ` Michael Tremer
2021-01-09 18:57   ` Paul Simmons
2021-01-10 14:07     ` Tapani Tarvainen
2021-01-12  5:07       ` Paul Simmons
2021-01-16  3:02         ` Paul Simmons
2021-01-16  8:13           ` Tapani Tarvainen
2021-01-19  6:22             ` Paul Simmons
2021-01-25 19:23               ` Michael Tremer
2021-01-25 20:29                 ` Paul Simmons
2021-01-25 20:50                   ` Michael Tremer
2021-01-11 11:10     ` Michael Tremer
2021-01-12  4:37       ` Paul Simmons

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