From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: Peter =?utf-8?q?M=C3=BCller?= <peter.mueller@link38.eu>
To: development@lists.ipfire.org
Subject: Re: DNS.WATCH up again
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2018 19:41:35 +0200
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Hello *,

sorry for the late reply.

It was me who added DNS.WATCH services to the DNS server list again as soon
as they were available again here.

My opinion of this service is as follows:
(a) Being unavailable for weeks without any notice is certainly a bad sign.
At least they cannot be considered reliable.
(b) They state "no logging" on their website (we will never know if this is
true or not) - compared to more commercial services (Google & Co.), this is
at least something.
(c) Well, technically, they did not tried to manipulate DNS replies or someth=
ing
similar. The JavaScript on their website is funny of course, but it seems to
be "just" for analytics...

I am happy with having them deleted from the Wiki list. Will stop using them
during the next few days.

Thanks, and best regards,
Peter M=C3=BCller

> Yes, I agree. We should remove them from the list.
>=20
> Not because of that bit of JS there (which is funny in itself), but basical=
ly
> because they are unreliable and nobody knows who is behind it and how to ge=
t in
> touch with them. At least that is my perception of all of this.
>=20
> And it is not that there are no alternatives. There are plenty and people s=
hould
> choose from there.
>=20
> Best,
> -Michael
>=20
> On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 20:09 +0200, Matthias Fischer wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 20.07.2018 17:35, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>> I have seen that you have re-added them on the wiki, too.
>>>
>>> Is this a trustworthy DNS provider?
>>
>> Jm2C:
>> They failed on Februar, 4th for about two days and now again -
>> even longer - without any comment.
>>
>> Besides, I found some intersting comments during searching here:
>> https://forum.kuketz-blog.de/viewtopic.php?f=3D32&t=3D187 (german)
>>
>> The code mentioned there ist still present on their site:
>>
>> ...
>> <!-- Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
>>     <script type=3D"text/javascript">
>>       var _paq =3D _paq || [];
>>       _paq.push(['trackPageView']);
>>       _paq.push(['enableLinkTracking']);
>>       (function() {
>>         var u=3D(("https:" =3D=3D document.location.protocol) ? "https" : =
"http") +
>> "://analytics.ihgip.net/";
>>         _paq.push(['setTrackerUrl', u+'piwik.php']);
>>         _paq.push(['setSiteId', 38]);
>>         var d=3Ddocument, g=3Dd.createElement('script'),
>> s=3Dd.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; g.type=3D'text/javascript';
>>         g.defer=3Dtrue; g.async=3Dtrue; g.src=3Du+'piwik.js';
>> s.parentNode.insertBefore(g,s);
>>       })();
>>     </script>
>>     <noscript><p><img src=3D"http://analytics.ihgip.net/piwik.php?idsite=
=3D38"
>> style=3D"border:0;" alt=3D"" /></p></noscript>
>>     <!-- End Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
>> ...
>>
>> IMHO we should delete this entry.
>>
>> Best,
>> Matthias
>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 19:35 +0200, Peter M=C3=BCller wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> looks like both DNS servers and website are up again.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Peter M=C3=BCller
>>
>>

--=20
"We don't care.  We don't have to.  We're the Phone Company."


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