From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernhard Bitsch To: development@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Inform users about the eol of i?86 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 15:05:10 +0100 Message-ID: <93b5dd76-5388-481e-8dd8-c296de895032@ipfire.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2007835886897483062==" List-Id: --===============2007835886897483062== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Michael, Am 10.12.2021 um 14:55 schrieb Michael Tremer: > Hello Bernhard, >=20 >> On 29 Nov 2021, at 10:49, Bernhard Bitsch wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> good remark in the wiki. But in the actual situation, it brings up another= question. Not only i?86 systems are hard to get, this is true for many x64 s= ystems also. Not everybody has a spare system laying around. >=20 > This is true, but not impossible. >=20 I know. ;) >> Could we extend support of those old systems by 1-3 months? >> In terms of security it is better to use an old HW than an outdated SW. >=20 > I understand your line of thinking, but I must disagree. >=20 > There was now about one year notice and this is enough time to get new hard= ware. Even if supply is a little bit problematic it isn=E2=80=99t that bad. >=20 > This is the reason why we give notice to things like this and I hope that p= eople take the right actions immediately or plan them and I would not like to= set precedent by constantly moving deadlines, because the first deadline was= n=E2=80=99t really the actual one. >=20 That's right. But if the planning was for end of this year, there might=20 be a problem. As I've experienced myself. ;) > IPFire will continue to run for a little bit, but we will take add-ons down= after a little while, too. >=20 > Everyone must upgrade. Lots of people are also running the 32 bit version o= n 64 bit capable hardware. The figures show us that there are only about <6% = of people who are affected by this change. >=20 > -Michael >=20 > P.S. If you need hardware, please contact me :) >=20 Thanks for the offer. But I've been successful in ordering an APU and=20 thus am glad to have a fast system now. :) Regards, Bernhard >> Regards, >> Bernhard >> >> Am 29.11.2021 um 11:30 schrieb Michael Tremer: >>> Hello, >>> I have merged the page into the =E2=80=9CSystem Requirements=E2=80=9D sec= tion because I felt like it fits there best. >>> Where we say what we support, we should also say what we do not support. >>> https://wiki.ipfire.org/hardware/requirements >>> -Michael >>>> On 29 Nov 2021, at 10:16, Michael Tremer w= rote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Indeed. Good catch. >>>> >>>> I think this would be fine without the link. We will send an announcemen= t which people hopefully won=E2=80=99t miss. >>>> >>>> @Jonatan: Are you going to resubmit this patch? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> -Michael >>>> >>>>> On 28 Nov 2021, at 20:09, Leo Hofmann wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jonatan, >>>>> >>>>> Am 28.11.2021 um 16:43 schrieb Jonatan Schlag: >>>>>> The warning point to a wiki page which is currently in construction. >>>>>> This should give us the opportunity to add further information for >>>>>> these users even if we do not provide updates anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jonatan Schlag >>>>>> --- >>>>>> html/cgi-bin/index.cgi | 4 ++-- >>>>>> langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl | 1 + >>>>>> langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl | 1 + >>>>>> 3 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>>>>> >>>>>> diff --git a/html/cgi-bin/index.cgi b/html/cgi-bin/index.cgi >>>>>> index 948fdde55..90e2daff0 100644 >>>>>> --- a/html/cgi-bin/index.cgi >>>>>> +++ b/html/cgi-bin/index.cgi >>>>>> @@ -541,10 +541,10 @@ if ( ! -e "/var/ipfire/main/send_profile") { >>>>>> $warnmessage .=3D "
  • $Lang::tr{'fireinfo please enable'}
    • "; >>>>>> } >>>>>> -# Legacy architecture >>>>>> +# EOL architecture >>>>>> my ($sysname, $nodename, $release, $version, $machine) =3D &POSIX::una= me(); >>>>>> if ($machine =3D~ m/^i.86$/) { >>>>>> - $warnmessage .=3D "
  • $Lang::tr{'legacy architecture warning'}
    • = "; >>>>>> + $warnmessage .=3D "
  • $Lang::tr{'eol architecture warning'}
    • "; >>>>> The "href" attribute isn't officially allowed in
  • elements, this li= nk may not work with picky browsers. >>>>> Here you can see which elements support "href": https://www.w3schools.c= om/tags/att_href.asp >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> Leo >>>>> >>>>>> } >>>>>> # Memory usage warning >>>>>> diff --git a/langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl b/langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl >>>>>> index e350bc651..c81b28fea 100644 >>>>>> --- a/langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl >>>>>> +++ b/langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl >>>>>> @@ -989,6 +989,7 @@ >>>>>> 'enter data' =3D> 'Geben Sie die Daten ein
    und klicken Sie dana= ch auf Speichern.', >>>>>> 'entropy' =3D> 'Entropie', >>>>>> 'entropy graphs' =3D> 'Entropiegraphen', >>>>>> +'eol architecture warning' =3D> 'Sie betreiben ein IPFire System auf = einer Architektur, welche nicht mehr unterst=C3=BCtzt wird. Sie werden keine = Updates mehr erhalten. Das ist ein Sicherheitsrisiko.', >>>>>> 'err bk 1' =3D> 'Fehler beim Erzeugen des Archivs', >>>>>> 'err bk 10 password' =3D> 'Fehler beim Datensicherungs-Passwort', >>>>>> 'err bk 2 key' =3D> 'Fehler beim Erzeugen der Schl=C3=BCsseldatei', >>>>>> diff --git a/langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl b/langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl >>>>>> index 4c05dcf76..a92bb07f8 100644 >>>>>> --- a/langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl >>>>>> +++ b/langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl >>>>>> @@ -1015,6 +1015,7 @@ >>>>>> 'enter data' =3D> 'Enter your settings
    and then press Save.', >>>>>> 'entropy' =3D> 'Entropy', >>>>>> 'entropy graphs' =3D> 'Entropy Graphs', >>>>>> +'eol architecture warning' =3D> 'You are running an architecture of I= PFire which reached its end of life. You will not receive updates anymore. Th= is is a security risk.', >>>>>> 'err bk 1' =3D> 'Error creating archive', >>>>>> 'err bk 10 password' =3D> 'Error with backup password', >>>>>> 'err bk 2 key' =3D> 'Error creating key file', >>>> >=20 --===============2007835886897483062==--