Hello,

> On 1 Jul 2022, at 09:55, Peter Müller <peter.mueller(a)ipfire.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> thanks for you reply.
> 
>> Yes, I did figure that one out.
>> However, I disagree with making debugging that difficult. Anything that is running in production cannot be easily rebooted to just change a sysctl setting.
> 
> In this case, this came from the kernel itself - and in my opinion, it makes sense to make this
> irreversible if ptrace() has been already completely forbidden. I wish more sysctl's would adapt
> such a "fuse" behaviour...

I would kind of prefer to configure this at compile time.

>> Is there any harm in setting it to 2? I understand it that only root is allowed to perform ptrace().
> 
> No, I don't think so, it just fell through the cracks on my end when I was implementing this.

Thank you.

>> If an attacker has already gained root privileges I do not consider this a large benefit to further exploit the system.
> 
> ACK.
> 
> Thanks, and best regards,
> Peter Müller
> 
>> -Michael
>>> On 29 Jun 2022, at 21:09, Peter Müller <peter.mueller(a)ipfire.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Michael,
>>> 
>>> thank you for reporting this.
>>> 
>>> Commit 5086ed681da4784474f0f71aaa70ec1d4940897c resolves the issue. As the sysctl value
>>> cannot be decreased once it has been set to "3" (one of the few times where Linux seems
>>> to actually show a mature approach to security by default), a reboot is required to apply
>>> the change.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, and best regards,
>>> Peter Müller
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I believe this stops strace from working. See screenshot.
>>>> 
>>>> If I remember our conversation correctly, this should have worked for root. Is my assumption correct?
>>>> 
>>>> -Michael
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Jun 2022, at 14:31, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11 Jun 2022, at 19:53, Peter Müller <peter.mueller(a)ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> See https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/LSM/Yama.html for
>>>>>> the upstream rationale. Enabling YAMA gives us the benefit of additional
>>>>>> hardening options available, without any obvious downsides.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Peter Müller <peter.mueller(a)ipfire.org>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> config/kernel/kernel.config.aarch64-ipfire | 2 +-
>>>>>> config/kernel/kernel.config.armv6l-ipfire  | 2 +-
>>>>>> config/kernel/kernel.config.riscv64-ipfire | 2 +-
>>>>>> config/kernel/kernel.config.x86_64-ipfire  | 2 +-
>>>>>> 4 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> diff --git a/config/kernel/kernel.config.aarch64-ipfire b/config/kernel/kernel.config.aarch64-ipfire
>>>>>> index 6dfeae595..7e63b77ca 100644
>>>>>> --- a/config/kernel/kernel.config.aarch64-ipfire
>>>>>> +++ b/config/kernel/kernel.config.aarch64-ipfire
>>>>>> @@ -7555,7 +7555,7 @@ CONFIG_FORTIFY_SOURCE=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_TOMOYO is not set
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_APPARMOR is not set
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_LOADPIN is not set
>>>>>> -# CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA is not set
>>>>>> +CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_SAFESETID is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN_LSM=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN_LSM_EARLY=y
>>>>>> diff --git a/config/kernel/kernel.config.armv6l-ipfire b/config/kernel/kernel.config.armv6l-ipfire
>>>>>> index 1bb745a87..1b6440b11 100644
>>>>>> --- a/config/kernel/kernel.config.armv6l-ipfire
>>>>>> +++ b/config/kernel/kernel.config.armv6l-ipfire
>>>>>> @@ -7561,7 +7561,7 @@ CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY_PAGESPAN=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_TOMOYO is not set
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_APPARMOR is not set
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_LOADPIN is not set
>>>>>> -# CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA is not set
>>>>>> +CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_SAFESETID is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN_LSM=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN_LSM_EARLY=y
>>>>>> diff --git a/config/kernel/kernel.config.riscv64-ipfire b/config/kernel/kernel.config.riscv64-ipfire
>>>>>> index 2d1fdbd28..2d6bb3a2c 100644
>>>>>> --- a/config/kernel/kernel.config.riscv64-ipfire
>>>>>> +++ b/config/kernel/kernel.config.riscv64-ipfire
>>>>>> @@ -6193,7 +6193,7 @@ CONFIG_FORTIFY_SOURCE=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_TOMOYO is not set
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_APPARMOR is not set
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_LOADPIN is not set
>>>>>> -# CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA is not set
>>>>>> +CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_SAFESETID is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN_LSM=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN_LSM_EARLY=y
>>>>>> diff --git a/config/kernel/kernel.config.x86_64-ipfire b/config/kernel/kernel.config.x86_64-ipfire
>>>>>> index b84698235..0efe14c41 100644
>>>>>> --- a/config/kernel/kernel.config.x86_64-ipfire
>>>>>> +++ b/config/kernel/kernel.config.x86_64-ipfire
>>>>>> @@ -6971,7 +6971,7 @@ CONFIG_FORTIFY_SOURCE=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_TOMOYO is not set
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_APPARMOR is not set
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_LOADPIN is not set
>>>>>> -# CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA is not set
>>>>>> +CONFIG_SECURITY_YAMA=y
>>>>>> # CONFIG_SECURITY_SAFESETID is not set
>>>>>> CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN_LSM=y
>>>>>> CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN_LSM_EARLY=y
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> 2.35.3
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>