* PostgreSQL as possible addon ? @ 2019-03-27 14:28 ummeegge 2019-03-27 14:53 ` Michael Tremer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: ummeegge @ 2019-03-27 14:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: development [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 444 bytes --] Hi all, another question ;-). Since i´d build PostgreSQL for IPFire --> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=people/ummeegge/ipfire-2.x.git;a=commit;h=230d0569d3f24b608852328a983b1791731aee4c <-- only testing version and made also some testings with it --> https://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=22476 incl. pgcli --> https://www.pgcli.com/ i wanted to ask if it would make sense to deliver it to the mailinglist ? Best, Erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: PostgreSQL as possible addon ? 2019-03-27 14:28 PostgreSQL as possible addon ? ummeegge @ 2019-03-27 14:53 ` Michael Tremer 2019-03-27 15:06 ` ummeegge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Michael Tremer @ 2019-03-27 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: development [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1218 bytes --] Hi, I would oppose PostgreSQL as an add-on. There are two major reasons for this: * Nobody has ever requested it. At least I am not aware of it. We do not have any applications that require it or would run better if PostgreSQL was there. Since we already have loads of add-ons that are barely used and barely maintained I would like to avoid adding another. * Based on that last note, I would say that we also have enough places to do work on that constantly get stuck. Instead of opening another construction site, I would like to at least have one or more closed - or at least declare that we do not intend to work on this any more. Best, -Michael > On 27 Mar 2019, at 14:28, ummeegge <ummeegge(a)ipfire.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > another question ;-). > Since i´d build PostgreSQL for IPFire --> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=people/ummeegge/ipfire-2.x.git;a=commit;h=230d0569d3f24b608852328a983b1791731aee4c > <-- only testing version > and made also some testings with it --> > https://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=22476 > incl. pgcli --> https://www.pgcli.com/ i wanted to ask if it would make > sense to deliver it to the mailinglist ? > > Best, > > Erik > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: PostgreSQL as possible addon ? 2019-03-27 14:53 ` Michael Tremer @ 2019-03-27 15:06 ` ummeegge 2019-03-27 15:06 ` Michael Tremer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: ummeegge @ 2019-03-27 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: development [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1422 bytes --] Hi Michael, OK no problem. Best, Erik On Mi, 2019-03-27 at 14:53 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote: > Hi, > > I would oppose PostgreSQL as an add-on. > > There are two major reasons for this: > > * Nobody has ever requested it. At least I am not aware of it. We do > not have any applications that require it or would run better if > PostgreSQL was there. Since we already have loads of add-ons that are > barely used and barely maintained I would like to avoid adding > another. > > * Based on that last note, I would say that we also have enough > places to do work on that constantly get stuck. Instead of opening > another construction site, I would like to at least have one or more > closed - or at least declare that we do not intend to work on this > any more. > > Best, > -Michael > > > On 27 Mar 2019, at 14:28, ummeegge <ummeegge(a)ipfire.org> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > another question ;-). > > Since i´d build PostgreSQL for IPFire --> > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=people/ummeegge/ipfire-2.x.git;a=commit;h=230d0569d3f24b608852328a983b1791731aee4c > > <-- only testing version > > and made also some testings with it --> > > https://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=22476 > > incl. pgcli --> https://www.pgcli.com/ i wanted to ask if it would > > make > > sense to deliver it to the mailinglist ? > > > > Best, > > > > Erik > > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: PostgreSQL as possible addon ? 2019-03-27 15:06 ` ummeegge @ 2019-03-27 15:06 ` Michael Tremer 2019-03-29 10:01 ` ummeegge 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Michael Tremer @ 2019-03-27 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: development [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1575 bytes --] What are your arguments for it? > On 27 Mar 2019, at 15:06, ummeegge <ummeegge(a)ipfire.org> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > OK no problem. > > Best, > > Erik > > On Mi, 2019-03-27 at 14:53 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would oppose PostgreSQL as an add-on. >> >> There are two major reasons for this: >> >> * Nobody has ever requested it. At least I am not aware of it. We do >> not have any applications that require it or would run better if >> PostgreSQL was there. Since we already have loads of add-ons that are >> barely used and barely maintained I would like to avoid adding >> another. >> >> * Based on that last note, I would say that we also have enough >> places to do work on that constantly get stuck. Instead of opening >> another construction site, I would like to at least have one or more >> closed - or at least declare that we do not intend to work on this >> any more. >> >> Best, >> -Michael >> >>> On 27 Mar 2019, at 14:28, ummeegge <ummeegge(a)ipfire.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> another question ;-). >>> Since i´d build PostgreSQL for IPFire --> >>> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=people/ummeegge/ipfire-2.x.git;a=commit;h=230d0569d3f24b608852328a983b1791731aee4c >>> <-- only testing version >>> and made also some testings with it --> >>> https://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=22476 >>> incl. pgcli --> https://www.pgcli.com/ i wanted to ask if it would >>> make >>> sense to deliver it to the mailinglist ? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik >>> >>> >> >> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: PostgreSQL as possible addon ? 2019-03-27 15:06 ` Michael Tremer @ 2019-03-29 10:01 ` ummeegge 2019-03-29 14:11 ` Michael Tremer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: ummeegge @ 2019-03-29 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: development [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2870 bytes --] Hi Michael, haven´t seen your request... On Mi, 2019-03-27 at 15:06 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote: > What are your arguments for it? Some arguments from my side: - Since we dropped MySQL cause no one maintained it appropriately (which was also a kind of overkill) i thought it might be nice to have a substitute which is, in my opinion, easier to update but also some implementations has been changed here (nothing in /srv and wider spread in the system but now all in /var) and of course i think PostgreSQL is also the nicer one. - I also really like some helper tools like pgsql (also to have for MySQL) for the not so affine SQL users but that´s only a beside one. - Another one is, have seen some requests for a non Sqlite DB from users in the forum where it thought i can make a try for their favorits which was PostgreSQL clearly before MySQL. - If someone uses IPFire also in a kind of server environment which i do, PostgreSQL can be a nice one to have. But again, i´ am totaly fine with your arguments and of course i can nevertheless use it for myself. Best, Erik > > > On 27 Mar 2019, at 15:06, ummeegge <ummeegge(a)ipfire.org> wrote: > > > > Hi Michael, > > OK no problem. > > > > Best, > > > > Erik > > > > On Mi, 2019-03-27 at 14:53 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I would oppose PostgreSQL as an add-on. > > > > > > There are two major reasons for this: > > > > > > * Nobody has ever requested it. At least I am not aware of it. We > > > do > > > not have any applications that require it or would run better if > > > PostgreSQL was there. Since we already have loads of add-ons that > > > are > > > barely used and barely maintained I would like to avoid adding > > > another. > > > > > > * Based on that last note, I would say that we also have enough > > > places to do work on that constantly get stuck. Instead of > > > opening > > > another construction site, I would like to at least have one or > > > more > > > closed - or at least declare that we do not intend to work on > > > this > > > any more. > > > > > > Best, > > > -Michael > > > > > > > On 27 Mar 2019, at 14:28, ummeegge <ummeegge(a)ipfire.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > another question ;-). > > > > Since i´d build PostgreSQL for IPFire --> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=people/ummeegge/ipfire-2.x.git;a=commit;h=230d0569d3f24b608852328a983b1791731aee4c > > > > <-- only testing version > > > > and made also some testings with it --> > > > > https://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=22476 > > > > incl. pgcli --> https://www.pgcli.com/ i wanted to ask if it > > > > would > > > > make > > > > sense to deliver it to the mailinglist ? > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Erik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: PostgreSQL as possible addon ? 2019-03-29 10:01 ` ummeegge @ 2019-03-29 14:11 ` Michael Tremer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Michael Tremer @ 2019-03-29 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: development [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3301 bytes --] Hi, I really like PostgreSQL. Internally we use it for everything and it is the best database out there in my opinion. However, I think the best way if you want to run this on IPFire is to run this in a virtual machine. Then you would even have some application that can make use of it. Is that a solution that would work for you? Best, -Michael > On 29 Mar 2019, at 10:01, ummeegge <ummeegge(a)ipfire.org> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > haven´t seen your request... > > On Mi, 2019-03-27 at 15:06 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote: >> What are your arguments for it? > Some arguments from my side: > - Since we dropped MySQL cause no one maintained it appropriately > (which was also a kind of overkill) i thought it might be nice to have > a substitute which is, in my opinion, easier to update but also some > implementations has been changed here (nothing in /srv and wider spread > in the system but now all in /var) and of course i think PostgreSQL is > also the nicer one. > - I also really like some helper tools like pgsql (also to have for > MySQL) for the not so affine SQL users but that´s only a beside one. > - Another one is, have seen some requests for a non Sqlite DB from > users in the forum where it thought i can make a try for their favorits > which was PostgreSQL clearly before MySQL. > - If someone uses IPFire also in a kind of server environment which i > do, PostgreSQL can be a nice one to have. > > But again, i´ am totaly fine with your arguments and of course i can > nevertheless use it for myself. > > Best, > > Erik > >> >>> On 27 Mar 2019, at 15:06, ummeegge <ummeegge(a)ipfire.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Michael, >>> OK no problem. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik >>> >>> On Mi, 2019-03-27 at 14:53 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I would oppose PostgreSQL as an add-on. >>>> >>>> There are two major reasons for this: >>>> >>>> * Nobody has ever requested it. At least I am not aware of it. We >>>> do >>>> not have any applications that require it or would run better if >>>> PostgreSQL was there. Since we already have loads of add-ons that >>>> are >>>> barely used and barely maintained I would like to avoid adding >>>> another. >>>> >>>> * Based on that last note, I would say that we also have enough >>>> places to do work on that constantly get stuck. Instead of >>>> opening >>>> another construction site, I would like to at least have one or >>>> more >>>> closed - or at least declare that we do not intend to work on >>>> this >>>> any more. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> -Michael >>>> >>>>> On 27 Mar 2019, at 14:28, ummeegge <ummeegge(a)ipfire.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> another question ;-). >>>>> Since i´d build PostgreSQL for IPFire --> >>>>> >>> >>> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=people/ummeegge/ipfire-2.x.git;a=commit;h=230d0569d3f24b608852328a983b1791731aee4c >>>>> <-- only testing version >>>>> and made also some testings with it --> >>>>> https://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=22476 >>>>> incl. pgcli --> https://www.pgcli.com/ i wanted to ask if it >>>>> would >>>>> make >>>>> sense to deliver it to the mailinglist ? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Erik >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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