From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Tremer To: development@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Inform users about the eol of i?86 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:55:29 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <606d62b9-9ce3-0c27-6da1-f24841ecfb32@ipfire.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8232409848882787489==" List-Id: --===============8232409848882787489== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Bernhard, > On 29 Nov 2021, at 10:49, Bernhard Bitsch wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > good remark in the wiki. But in the actual situation, it brings up another = question. Not only i?86 systems are hard to get, this is true for many x64 sy= stems also. Not everybody has a spare system laying around. This is true, but not impossible. > Could we extend support of those old systems by 1-3 months? > In terms of security it is better to use an old HW than an outdated SW. I understand your line of thinking, but I must disagree. There was now about one year notice and this is enough time to get new hardwa= re. Even if supply is a little bit problematic it isn=E2=80=99t that bad. This is the reason why we give notice to things like this and I hope that peo= ple take the right actions immediately or plan them and I would not like to s= et precedent by constantly moving deadlines, because the first deadline wasn= =E2=80=99t really the actual one. IPFire will continue to run for a little bit, but we will take add-ons down a= fter a little while, too. Everyone must upgrade. Lots of people are also running the 32 bit version on = 64 bit capable hardware. The figures show us that there are only about <6% of= people who are affected by this change. -Michael P.S. If you need hardware, please contact me :) > Regards, > Bernhard >=20 > Am 29.11.2021 um 11:30 schrieb Michael Tremer: >> Hello, >> I have merged the page into the =E2=80=9CSystem Requirements=E2=80=9D sect= ion because I felt like it fits there best. >> Where we say what we support, we should also say what we do not support. >> https://wiki.ipfire.org/hardware/requirements >> -Michael >>> On 29 Nov 2021, at 10:16, Michael Tremer wr= ote: >>>=20 >>> Hello, >>>=20 >>> Indeed. Good catch. >>>=20 >>> I think this would be fine without the link. We will send an announcement= which people hopefully won=E2=80=99t miss. >>>=20 >>> @Jonatan: Are you going to resubmit this patch? >>>=20 >>> Best, >>> -Michael >>>=20 >>>> On 28 Nov 2021, at 20:09, Leo Hofmann wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hi Jonatan, >>>>=20 >>>> Am 28.11.2021 um 16:43 schrieb Jonatan Schlag: >>>>> The warning point to a wiki page which is currently in construction. >>>>> This should give us the opportunity to add further information for >>>>> these users even if we do not provide updates anymore. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Signed-off-by: Jonatan Schlag >>>>> --- >>>>> html/cgi-bin/index.cgi | 4 ++-- >>>>> langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl | 1 + >>>>> langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl | 1 + >>>>> 3 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>>>>=20 >>>>> diff --git a/html/cgi-bin/index.cgi b/html/cgi-bin/index.cgi >>>>> index 948fdde55..90e2daff0 100644 >>>>> --- a/html/cgi-bin/index.cgi >>>>> +++ b/html/cgi-bin/index.cgi >>>>> @@ -541,10 +541,10 @@ if ( ! -e "/var/ipfire/main/send_profile") { >>>>> $warnmessage .=3D "
  • $Lang::tr{'fireinfo please enable'}
    • "; >>>>> } >>>>> -# Legacy architecture >>>>> +# EOL architecture >>>>> my ($sysname, $nodename, $release, $version, $machine) =3D &POSIX::unam= e(); >>>>> if ($machine =3D~ m/^i.86$/) { >>>>> - $warnmessage .=3D "
  • $Lang::tr{'legacy architecture warning'}
    • "; >>>>> + $warnmessage .=3D "
  • $Lang::tr{'eol architecture warning'}
    • "; >>>> The "href" attribute isn't officially allowed in
  • elements, this lin= k may not work with picky browsers. >>>> Here you can see which elements support "href": https://www.w3schools.co= m/tags/att_href.asp >>>>=20 >>>> Best regards >>>> Leo >>>>=20 >>>>> } >>>>> # Memory usage warning >>>>> diff --git a/langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl b/langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl >>>>> index e350bc651..c81b28fea 100644 >>>>> --- a/langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl >>>>> +++ b/langs/de/cgi-bin/de.pl >>>>> @@ -989,6 +989,7 @@ >>>>> 'enter data' =3D> 'Geben Sie die Daten ein
    und klicken Sie danac= h auf Speichern.', >>>>> 'entropy' =3D> 'Entropie', >>>>> 'entropy graphs' =3D> 'Entropiegraphen', >>>>> +'eol architecture warning' =3D> 'Sie betreiben ein IPFire System auf e= iner Architektur, welche nicht mehr unterst=C3=BCtzt wird. Sie werden keine U= pdates mehr erhalten. Das ist ein Sicherheitsrisiko.', >>>>> 'err bk 1' =3D> 'Fehler beim Erzeugen des Archivs', >>>>> 'err bk 10 password' =3D> 'Fehler beim Datensicherungs-Passwort', >>>>> 'err bk 2 key' =3D> 'Fehler beim Erzeugen der Schl=C3=BCsseldatei', >>>>> diff --git a/langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl b/langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl >>>>> index 4c05dcf76..a92bb07f8 100644 >>>>> --- a/langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl >>>>> +++ b/langs/en/cgi-bin/en.pl >>>>> @@ -1015,6 +1015,7 @@ >>>>> 'enter data' =3D> 'Enter your settings
    and then press Save.', >>>>> 'entropy' =3D> 'Entropy', >>>>> 'entropy graphs' =3D> 'Entropy Graphs', >>>>> +'eol architecture warning' =3D> 'You are running an architecture of IP= Fire which reached its end of life. You will not receive updates anymore. Thi= s is a security risk.', >>>>> 'err bk 1' =3D> 'Error creating archive', >>>>> 'err bk 10 password' =3D> 'Error with backup password', >>>>> 'err bk 2 key' =3D> 'Error creating key file', >>>=20 --===============8232409848882787489==--