81.3.27.54 => rDNS => Reverse lookup failed

81.3.27.54 => rDNS => Reverse lookup failed

[Matthias Fischer]

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Hi!

Since both DNS.WATCH-Servers are unavailable since today...

=> https://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=20253&p=117259#p117259

...I switched to Lightning Wire Labs (81.3.27.54).

'unbound' says that everything is OK, DNSSEC is OK, testing is OK.

But IPFire-GUI tells me that for 'rDNS' "Reverse lookup failed".

Can anyone confirm? Reason?

Best,
Matthias

Re: 81.3.27.54 => rDNS => Reverse lookup failed

[Michael Tremer]

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On Sat, 2018-07-14 at 12:29 +0200, Matthias Fischer wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Since both DNS.WATCH-Servers are unavailable since today...

LOL

> => https://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=20253&p=117259#p117259
> 
> ...I switched to Lightning Wire Labs (81.3.27.54).
> 
> 'unbound' says that everything is OK, DNSSEC is OK, testing is OK.
> 
> But IPFire-GUI tells me that for 'rDNS' "Reverse lookup failed".
> 
> Can anyone confirm? Reason?

Yes we don't have Reverse Pointers set up:

  https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686

Reason? Time :)

Best,
-Michael

> Best,
> Matthias

Re: 81.3.27.54 => rDNS => Reverse lookup failed

[Matthias Fischer]

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On 14.07.2018 15:34, Michael Tremer wrote:
> On Sat, 2018-07-14 at 12:29 +0200, Matthias Fischer wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Since both DNS.WATCH-Servers are unavailable since today...
> 
> LOL

Second time this year. *Sigh*

>> => https://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=20253&p=117259#p117259
>> 
>> ...I switched to Lightning Wire Labs (81.3.27.54).
>> 
>> 'unbound' says that everything is OK, DNSSEC is OK, testing is OK.
>> 
>> But IPFire-GUI tells me that for 'rDNS' "Reverse lookup failed".
>> 
>> Can anyone confirm? Reason?
> 
> Yes we don't have Reverse Pointers set up:
> 
>   https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11686

Ok, I see.

> Reason? Time :)

Time is definitely NOT on our side... :-)

Best,
Matthias

Re: 81.3.27.54 => rDNS => Reverse lookup failed

[Peter Müller]

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Hello,

does anybody know the status of DNS.WATCH?

Their DNS servers seem to be still down; moreover, I cannot reach
their website because of a DNS error. Looks like the thing is
abandoned. :-(

Best regards,
Peter Müller
-- 
"We don't care.  We don't have to.  We're the Phone Company."


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Re: 81.3.27.54 => rDNS => Reverse lookup failed

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello,

nobody seems to know anything, so I guess they just closed down silently:

  https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/8yidwv/dnswatch_is_down_again/

- -Michael

On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 17:02 +0200, Peter Müller wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> does anybody know the status of DNS.WATCH?
> 
> Their DNS servers seem to be still down; moreover, I cannot reach
> their website because of a DNS error. Looks like the thing is
> abandoned. :-(
> 
> Best regards,
> Peter Müller
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DNS.WATCH up again (was: Re: 81.3.27.54 => rDNS => Reverse lookup failed)

[Peter Müller]

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Hello,

looks like both DNS servers and website are up again.

Best regards,
Peter Müller
-- 
"We don't care.  We don't have to.  We're the Phone Company."


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Re: DNS.WATCH up again (was: Re: 81.3.27.54 => rDNS => Reverse lookup failed)

[Michael Tremer]

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I have seen that you have re-added them on the wiki, too.

Is this a trustworthy DNS provider?

-Michael

On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 19:35 +0200, Peter Müller wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> looks like both DNS servers and website are up again.
> 
> Best regards,
> Peter Müller

Re: DNS.WATCH up again

[Matthias Fischer]

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Hi,

On 20.07.2018 17:35, Michael Tremer wrote:
> I have seen that you have re-added them on the wiki, too.
> 
> Is this a trustworthy DNS provider?

Jm2C:
They failed on Februar, 4th for about two days and now again -
even longer - without any comment.

Besides, I found some intersting comments during searching here:
https://forum.kuketz-blog.de/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=187 (german)

The code mentioned there ist still present on their site:

...
<!-- Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
    <script type="text/javascript">
      var _paq = _paq || [];
      _paq.push(['trackPageView']);
      _paq.push(['enableLinkTracking']);
      (function() {
        var u=(("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https" : "http") + "://analytics.ihgip.net/";
        _paq.push(['setTrackerUrl', u+'piwik.php']);
        _paq.push(['setSiteId', 38]);
        var d=document, g=d.createElement('script'), s=d.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; g.type='text/javascript';
        g.defer=true; g.async=true; g.src=u+'piwik.js'; s.parentNode.insertBefore(g,s);
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    </script>
    <noscript><p><img src="http://analytics.ihgip.net/piwik.php?idsite=38" style="border:0;" alt="" /></p></noscript>
    <!-- End Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
...

IMHO we should delete this entry.

Best,
Matthias

> -Michael
> 
> On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 19:35 +0200, Peter Müller wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> looks like both DNS servers and website are up again.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Peter Müller
> 

Re: DNS.WATCH up again

[Michael Tremer]

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Yes, I agree. We should remove them from the list.

Not because of that bit of JS there (which is funny in itself), but basically
because they are unreliable and nobody knows who is behind it and how to get in
touch with them. At least that is my perception of all of this.

And it is not that there are no alternatives. There are plenty and people should
choose from there.

Best,
-Michael

On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 20:09 +0200, Matthias Fischer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 20.07.2018 17:35, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > I have seen that you have re-added them on the wiki, too.
> > 
> > Is this a trustworthy DNS provider?
> 
> Jm2C:
> They failed on Februar, 4th for about two days and now again -
> even longer - without any comment.
> 
> Besides, I found some intersting comments during searching here:
> https://forum.kuketz-blog.de/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=187 (german)
> 
> The code mentioned there ist still present on their site:
> 
> ...
> <!-- Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
>     <script type="text/javascript">
>       var _paq = _paq || [];
>       _paq.push(['trackPageView']);
>       _paq.push(['enableLinkTracking']);
>       (function() {
>         var u=(("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https" : "http") +
> "://analytics.ihgip.net/";
>         _paq.push(['setTrackerUrl', u+'piwik.php']);
>         _paq.push(['setSiteId', 38]);
>         var d=document, g=d.createElement('script'),
> s=d.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; g.type='text/javascript';
>         g.defer=true; g.async=true; g.src=u+'piwik.js';
> s.parentNode.insertBefore(g,s);
>       })();
>     </script>
>     <noscript><p><img src="http://analytics.ihgip.net/piwik.php?idsite=38"
> style="border:0;" alt="" /></p></noscript>
>     <!-- End Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
> ...
> 
> IMHO we should delete this entry.
> 
> Best,
> Matthias
> 
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 19:35 +0200, Peter Müller wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > looks like both DNS servers and website are up again.
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Peter Müller
> 
> 

Re: DNS.WATCH up again

[Peter Müller]

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Hello *,

sorry for the late reply.

It was me who added DNS.WATCH services to the DNS server list again as soon
as they were available again here.

My opinion of this service is as follows:
(a) Being unavailable for weeks without any notice is certainly a bad sign.
At least they cannot be considered reliable.
(b) They state "no logging" on their website (we will never know if this is
true or not) - compared to more commercial services (Google & Co.), this is
at least something.
(c) Well, technically, they did not tried to manipulate DNS replies or something
similar. The JavaScript on their website is funny of course, but it seems to
be "just" for analytics...

I am happy with having them deleted from the Wiki list. Will stop using them
during the next few days.

Thanks, and best regards,
Peter Müller

> Yes, I agree. We should remove them from the list.
> 
> Not because of that bit of JS there (which is funny in itself), but basically
> because they are unreliable and nobody knows who is behind it and how to get in
> touch with them. At least that is my perception of all of this.
> 
> And it is not that there are no alternatives. There are plenty and people should
> choose from there.
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
> On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 20:09 +0200, Matthias Fischer wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 20.07.2018 17:35, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>> I have seen that you have re-added them on the wiki, too.
>>>
>>> Is this a trustworthy DNS provider?
>>
>> Jm2C:
>> They failed on Februar, 4th for about two days and now again -
>> even longer - without any comment.
>>
>> Besides, I found some intersting comments during searching here:
>> https://forum.kuketz-blog.de/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=187 (german)
>>
>> The code mentioned there ist still present on their site:
>>
>> ...
>> <!-- Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
>>     <script type="text/javascript">
>>       var _paq = _paq || [];
>>       _paq.push(['trackPageView']);
>>       _paq.push(['enableLinkTracking']);
>>       (function() {
>>         var u=(("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https" : "http") +
>> "://analytics.ihgip.net/";
>>         _paq.push(['setTrackerUrl', u+'piwik.php']);
>>         _paq.push(['setSiteId', 38]);
>>         var d=document, g=d.createElement('script'),
>> s=d.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; g.type='text/javascript';
>>         g.defer=true; g.async=true; g.src=u+'piwik.js';
>> s.parentNode.insertBefore(g,s);
>>       })();
>>     </script>
>>     <noscript><p><img src="http://analytics.ihgip.net/piwik.php?idsite=38"
>> style="border:0;" alt="" /></p></noscript>
>>     <!-- End Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
>> ...
>>
>> IMHO we should delete this entry.
>>
>> Best,
>> Matthias
>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 19:35 +0200, Peter Müller wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> looks like both DNS servers and website are up again.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Peter Müller
>>
>>

-- 
"We don't care.  We don't have to.  We're the Phone Company."


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Re: DNS.WATCH up again

[Michael Tremer]

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Hi,

On Sat, 2018-08-04 at 19:41 +0200, Peter Müller wrote:
> Hello *,
> 
> sorry for the late reply.
> 
> It was me who added DNS.WATCH services to the DNS server list again as soon
> as they were available again here.
> 
> My opinion of this service is as follows:
> (a) Being unavailable for weeks without any notice is certainly a bad sign.
> At least they cannot be considered reliable.

Which is probably one of the most important things when running a DNS
resolver.

> (b) They state "no logging" on their website (we will never know if this is
> true or not) - compared to more commercial services (Google & Co.), this is
> at least something.

It is a promise. Just like Google promised to never be evil... I am
quite confident that promises like those are being breached a lot.

> (c) Well, technically, they did not tried to manipulate DNS replies or something
> similar. The JavaScript on their website is funny of course, but it seems to
> be "just" for analytics...

Luckily nobody has to visit the website to use the DNS servers.

But there is a company behind it who's website doesn't load. No idea
what they are doing. IT is not their main business. I do not see why
anyone should be using this when there is so many alternatives around.

> I am happy with having them deleted from the Wiki list. Will stop using them
> during the next few days.

Okay.

It doesn't mean that nobody should be using them, but certainly we
won't recommend them any more.

- -Michael

> 
> Thanks, and best regards,
> Peter Müller
> 
> > Yes, I agree. We should remove them from the list.
> > 
> > Not because of that bit of JS there (which is funny in itself), but basically
> > because they are unreliable and nobody knows who is behind it and how to get in
> > touch with them. At least that is my perception of all of this.
> > 
> > And it is not that there are no alternatives. There are plenty and people should
> > choose from there.
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 20:09 +0200, Matthias Fischer wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On 20.07.2018 17:35, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > I have seen that you have re-added them on the wiki, too.
> > > > 
> > > > Is this a trustworthy DNS provider?
> > > 
> > > Jm2C:
> > > They failed on Februar, 4th for about two days and now again -
> > > even longer - without any comment.
> > > 
> > > Besides, I found some intersting comments during searching here:
> > > https://forum.kuketz-blog.de/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=187 (german)
> > > 
> > > The code mentioned there ist still present on their site:
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > <!-- Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
> > >     <script type="text/javascript">
> > >       var _paq = _paq || [];
> > >       _paq.push(['trackPageView']);
> > >       _paq.push(['enableLinkTracking']);
> > >       (function() {
> > >         var u=(("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https" : "http") +
> > > "://analytics.ihgip.net/";
> > >         _paq.push(['setTrackerUrl', u+'piwik.php']);
> > >         _paq.push(['setSiteId', 38]);
> > >         var d=document, g=d.createElement('script'),
> > > s=d.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; g.type='text/javascript';
> > >         g.defer=true; g.async=true; g.src=u+'piwik.js';
> > > s.parentNode.insertBefore(g,s);
> > >       })();
> > >     </script>
> > >     <noscript><p><img src="http://analytics.ihgip.net/piwik.php?idsite=38"
> > > style="border:0;" alt="" /></p></noscript>
> > >     <!-- End Ideal-Hosting Analytics -->
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > IMHO we should delete this entry.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > Matthias
> > > 
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 19:35 +0200, Peter Müller wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > looks like both DNS servers and website are up again.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Peter Müller
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> 
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