From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire.org>
To: development@lists.ipfire.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Unbound: Enable DNS cache poisoning mitigation
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 12:52:24 +0100
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1M sounds good.

This should never become a problem for zones that use DNSSEC.

On Thu, 2018-08-23 at 21:22 +0200, Peter Müller wrote:
> Well, some people consider 10k a good value for this:
> https://calomel.org/unbound_dns.html
> 
> Not sure if this is actually too low. During some attacks, 5M
> was satisfying here, but I did not dig into thresholds deeper.
> Simulated attacks did not show a unique behaviour, and their
> real value is questionable in my point of view.
> 
> What do you propose for the value? 1M or 100k?
> 
> Best regards,
> Peter Müller
> 
> > Do you have any reference for this?
> > 
> > On Sun, 2018-08-19 at 20:08 +0200, Peter Müller wrote:
> > > By default, Unbound neither keeps track of the number of unwanted
> > > replies nor initiates countermeasures if they become too large (DNS
> > > cache poisoning).
> > > 
> > > This sets the maximum number of tolerated unwanted replies to
> > > 5M, causing the cache to be flushed afterwards. (Upstream documentation
> > > recommends 10M as a threshold, but this turned out to be ineffective
> > > against attacks in the wild.)
> > > 
> > > See https://nlnetlabs.nl/documentation/unbound/unbound.conf/ for
> > > details.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Peter Müller <peter.mueller(a)link38.eu>
> > > ---
> > >  config/unbound/unbound.conf | 3 +++
> > >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/config/unbound/unbound.conf b/config/unbound/unbound.conf
> > > index 3f724d8f7..fa2ca3fd4 100644
> > > --- a/config/unbound/unbound.conf
> > > +++ b/config/unbound/unbound.conf
> > > @@ -61,6 +61,9 @@ server:
> > >  	harden-algo-downgrade: no
> > >  	use-caps-for-id: no
> > >  
> > > +	# Harden against DNS cache poisoning
> > > +	unwanted-reply-threshold: 5000000
> > > +
> > >  	# Listen on all interfaces
> > >  	interface-automatic: yes
> > >  	interface: 0.0.0.0
> 
> 
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