From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Tremer To: development@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: ARM 64? Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 11:31:04 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <29EC28D4-E670-4EAE-BB47-6AFF12693451@traverse.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3313645901735351357==" List-Id: --===============3313645901735351357== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Thu, 2018-05-24 at 11:32 +1000, Mathew McBride wrote: > Hi Michael, > From the software side, the support in the kernel is fairly good, mainline > 4.15 and later works. We (Traverse) only maintain a patchset for some small > drivers (such as hwmon sensors not yet in the kernel - not required to boot) > and other minor fixes not yet applied upstream. Any idea if 4.14 works? We are going to use this kernel as the next one becau= se it is a long-term supported one. > If you build an image that uses UEFI boot it will work on both our hardware > (bare metal), as a VM and on the ARM64 server platforms (Ampere/XGene, > Centriq, ThunderX), or even our competitors (MacchiatoBin etc.) I got an XGene. Not really a fan of that EFI thing it came with, but u-boot w= as in a horrible state a few years ago, too. https://planet.ipfire.org/post/our-start-with-arm64-the-applied-micro-musta= ng > The big difference is that we use u-boot and it's EFI implementation - and > that is improving at a rate that we don't feel it necessary to port TianoCo= re > to our board.=20 Haven't tried u-boot in EFI mode, yet. But it is a good to have everything op= en and freely distributable for us. I suppose u-boot is living in the NAND flash and the OS is on SSD or SD card? > The board Guy linked (LS1043-S) is our OEM/volume product, and he can brief > you on the pricing off-list.=20 Thanks for that. > We also have a 'hacker' oriented product in the pipeline (Five64 - > https://traverse.com.au/products/five64-arm64-platform/ ) - which is curren= tly > in the PCB layout phase. This one has a wider feature set (NVMe SSD, ATX PSU > on/off, ability to 'debrick' the flash and control via a separate BMC board= ).=20 > This is one we intend to be available to everyone (through CrowdSupply - via > the campaign and beyond), which addresses the channel 'accessibility' issue > (in terms of individuals and small operators being able to buy them). It's > pricing will be similar to the other boards (Omnia, Novena, Atom C2000/C300= 0). >=20 > Regards, > Matt -Michael >=20 > -------- Forwarded Message --------=20 > Subject:=20 > Re: ARM 64? > Date:=20 > Wed, 23 May 2018 10:58:00 +0100 > From:=20 > Michael Tremer mailto:michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org > To:=20 > mailto:guy(a)traverse.com.au, mailto:development(a)lists.ipfire.org >=20 > Hello Guy, >=20 > thank you very much for getting in touch. >=20 > Yes, we are working on an ARM 64 port, but so far we have not seen any > hardware > that was worth doing the port for. All those small and cheap single-board > computers lack power, the bigger systems are basically unavailable and way = too > expensive. >=20 > This board is way different though. CPU, Memory and especially the NICs are > something that are way better sized and make a nice small appliance for big= ger > SOHOs or small to medium-sized offices. >=20 > Not entirely sure why there is only one 10G port. Usually where 10G goes in, > it > has to go out somewhere else again... >=20 > The big question is what software support is like in the Linux kernel for > this. > I have seen the patches linked on the product page and can only defer to Ar= ne > to > have a look at it. >=20 > My question would now be: What is the desired RRP for this or wholesale? I = am > just curious to find out if it is competitive or if people would find it too > expensive and buy Intel again. Then we shouldn't really bother with putting > the > time into a port. If you are not comfortable sharing prices on the list, > please > feel free to email me in private about this. >=20 > About the sponsorship. Thank you very much for considering us. I would be > happy > to have a closer look. Would you be able to ship this into the UK or German= y? >=20 > Best, > -Michael >=20 > On Wed, 2018-05-23 at 12:46 +1000, Guy Ellis wrote: > > Dear list, > >=20 > > Just wondering if there is any interest in supporting ARM 64 hardware=20 > > moving forward? > >=20 > > We can assist with donated hardware and support if there is interest. > > https://traverse.com.au/products/ls1043s-router-board/ > >=20 > > Regards, > > - Guy. > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --===============3313645901735351357==--