I just tried to go to the web site and it is currently down: ipfire.org gets a '500 - Internal Server Error' on several pages, but some static links work planet.ipfire.org same as www.ipfire.org (same server?) forum.ipfire.org Looks like the database is down. Message is 'SQL Error Postgres' wiki.ipfire.org is up rod -- Rod Rodolico Daily Data, Inc. POB 140465 Dallas TX 75214-0465 US http://dailydata.net 214.827.2170