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From: Jon Murphy <jcmurphy26@gmail.com>
To: documentation@lists.ipfire.org
Subject: Re: New wiki painful to use
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:51:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <107641BE-C6B4-4B8C-A01A-26A86DC16059@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A4664C5D-69C8-4579-8FBD-BDC1CCA582A6@ipfire.org>

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> I have asked for feedback and I got little. I do not think that many open points were left that could have easily been implemented. This is why I wasn’t too happy to read this email now, because I would have preferred some constructive ideas and help over this now.


You are a tough person to send feedback to.  You have a tendency to react in off-putting ways.  Re-read your response.

You did receive my constructive ideas in the Documentation list.



> First of all: There is no time to work on this. I have been doing nothing else but infrastructure and admin work around the project for the last four weeks. I am barely able to respond to my email. One emergency after the other is happening and I am doing “quick and dirty” on more things than I would like to. Bare this in mind. This is also the reason why I am a bit on the edge.

How can I help?  

Since I’m not a firewall expert, I help with documentation (I started working on the old wiki near April 2018)



> False information is worse than none.

Sorry to say but you’ll have to point those out (I know you are busy!).  I’m not an expert but I have been going through and correcting what I can.  I don’t have the skills to identify false info. 



>> Did the https://github.com/benweet/stackedit.js not work?
> 
> This project hasn’t been updated in years. I am not going to integrate legacy software into something new.

Sorry for dwelling on this (and I’m not trying to make you mad):
To my unskilled eyes it looks like it was updated in Aug 2018.  I saw your concern about PageDown but there is not a Pagedown reference in the JS code.  On the webpage it states "stackedit.js is lightweight and has no dependency.” (I wrote a note to the developer to confirm).  I am missing something obvious...



> I am also quite frustrated about seeing loads of HTML .... This is not how this was intended and we have talked about why this is a bad idea.

What should I correct?  The HTML I remember is:

    <color blue> Example </color> to <span style=“color:blue”> Example </span>

I believe I wrote to you asking for guidance and did not receive a response.

Keep in mind, pages that look like this —> https://wiki.ipfire.org/hardware/arm?revision=2019-08-06T13:57:34.868460

Will now look like this —> https://wiki.ipfire.org/hardware/arm?revision=2019-01-09T19:34:43

—

I’m sure you realize this is an uphill battle.  Especially since users are allowed/encouraged to update wiki pages.  Without the code to limit or exclude HTML you’ll become the wiki cop and continue to be frustrated by non-compliance.  This doesn’t seem worth your time.


> I am also quite frustrated about ... only the word “update” in the change log.

Look at the revisions for a single page.  You see many proper remarks.  The “Update” is normally a quick change where I got frustrated fighting the interface to get a page completed.  My bad.  I will do better.



Again, none of this is meant to be mean.  It just my feedback.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-15 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <EEBA0832-ADEA-4DEC-A62A-C0165425A75F@gmail.com>
2019-08-13  1:06 ` dnl
2019-08-14 13:58   ` Michael Tremer
2019-08-14 13:56 ` Michael Tremer
2019-08-15 20:51   ` Jon Murphy [this message]
2019-08-27 14:41     ` Michael Tremer
2019-08-27 15:54       ` Jon Murphy
2019-08-27 16:14         ` Michael Tremer
2019-09-03 22:19           ` Jon Murphy
2019-09-05  9:24             ` Michael Tremer
2019-09-05 20:52               ` Jon Murphy
2019-09-05 21:23                 ` Tom Rymes
2019-09-06 12:01                   ` Michael Tremer

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