From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jon Murphy To: documentation@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: New wiki painful to use Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:51:31 -0500 Message-ID: <107641BE-C6B4-4B8C-A01A-26A86DC16059@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2268962915861023350==" List-Id: --===============2268962915861023350== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I have asked for feedback and I got little. I do not think that many open p= oints were left that could have easily been implemented. This is why I wasn= =E2=80=99t too happy to read this email now, because I would have preferred s= ome constructive ideas and help over this now. You are a tough person to send feedback to. You have a tendency to react in = off-putting ways. Re-read your response. You did receive my constructive ideas in the Documentation list. > First of all: There is no time to work on this. I have been doing nothing e= lse but infrastructure and admin work around the project for the last four we= eks. I am barely able to respond to my email. One emergency after the other i= s happening and I am doing =E2=80=9Cquick and dirty=E2=80=9D on more things t= han I would like to. Bare this in mind. This is also the reason why I am a bi= t on the edge. How can I help? =20 Since I=E2=80=99m not a firewall expert, I help with documentation (I started= working on the old wiki near April 2018) > False information is worse than none. Sorry to say but you=E2=80=99ll have to point those out (I know you are busy!= ). I=E2=80=99m not an expert but I have been going through and correcting wh= at I can. I don=E2=80=99t have the skills to identify false info.=20 >> Did the https://github.com/benweet/stackedit.js not work? >=20 > This project hasn=E2=80=99t been updated in years. I am not going to integr= ate legacy software into something new. Sorry for dwelling on this (and I=E2=80=99m not trying to make you mad): To my unskilled eyes it looks like it was updated in Aug 2018. I saw your co= ncern about PageDown but there is not a Pagedown reference in the JS code. O= n the webpage it states "stackedit.js is lightweight and has no dependency.= =E2=80=9D (I wrote a note to the developer to confirm). I am missing somethi= ng obvious... > I am also quite frustrated about seeing loads of HTML .... This is not how = this was intended and we have talked about why this is a bad idea. What should I correct? The HTML I remember is: Example to Example I believe I wrote to you asking for guidance and did not receive a response. Keep in mind, pages that look like this =E2=80=94> https://wiki.ipfire.org/ha= rdware/arm?revision=3D2019-08-06T13:57:34.868460 Will now look like this =E2=80=94> https://wiki.ipfire.org/hardware/arm?revis= ion=3D2019-01-09T19:34:43 =E2=80=94 I=E2=80=99m sure you realize this is an uphill battle. Especially since user= s are allowed/encouraged to update wiki pages. Without the code to limit or = exclude HTML you=E2=80=99ll become the wiki cop and continue to be frustrated= by non-compliance. This doesn=E2=80=99t seem worth your time. > I am also quite frustrated about ... only the word =E2=80=9Cupdate=E2=80=9D= in the change log. Look at the revisions for a single page. You see many proper remarks. The = =E2=80=9CUpdate=E2=80=9D is normally a quick change where I got frustrated fi= ghting the interface to get a page completed. My bad. I will do better. Again, none of this is meant to be mean. It just my feedback. --===============2268962915861023350==--