From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Tremer To: documentation@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: AW: AW: Xen Documentation Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:15:30 +0100 Message-ID: <1424376930.17826.191.camel@ipfire.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5478210571072869653==" List-Id: --===============5478210571072869653== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @Markus: Please make sure that you always reply to the list as well. I am not entirely sure why this post is so broken, but one of the reason is that you linked some images from other posts. I recovered some of them and will send the privately to you to avoid too much traffic on the list. Maybe you can still use them. -Michael On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 08:46 +0100, Markus Helmke wrote: > First Draft was to write it down in the Forum >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=3D14&t=3D10888 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Viele Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, >=20 > Markus Helmke >=20 > Mail: markus(a)helmke.at >=20 > =20 >=20 > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > > Von:Michael Tremer > > Gesendet: Die 17 Februar 2015 17:47 > > An: Markus Helmke > > CC: R. W. Rodolico ; documentation(a)lists.ipfire.o= rg > > Betreff: Re: AW: Xen Documentation > >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > about which page are you talking? I could not find the right one I > > think. > >=20 > > -Michael > >=20 > > On Tue, 2015-02-17 at 17:30 +0100, Markus Helmke wrote: > > > My Dokumentation was made for the actual Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS > > > version. > > >=20 > > > There where some changes in order to the implemented XEN-Version. The > > > letest Debian stable (wheezy) is layouted with XEN 4.0 or 4.1 (im not > > > shure). > > > In Ubuntu some of the latest packet-changes was to implement the new XE= N 4.4 The default stack is now xl (4.0 was xm) so there are some changes in t= he configs. Now it is possible to use the configfiles in the /etc/default sec= tion to start the xen-kernel or to implement boot-parameters. > > >=20 > > > But everything from the new Xen-Version is explained in my doku. Since = the forum was replaced to the new forum-software the links to images are lost= .=20 > > >=20 > > > So if I can do somthing Or write something new - I can do that. But the= challenge to write that down in english is to big for me. It will takes to m= uch time for me. But perhaps there will be found someone else how can transla= te that. > > >=20 > > > Viele Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, > > >=20 > > > Markus Helmke > > >=20 > > > Mail: markus(a)helmke.at > > >=20 > > > =20 > > >=20 > > > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > > > > Von:Michael Tremer > > > > Gesendet: Die 17 Februar 2015 17:06 > > > > An: R. W. Rodolico > > > > CC: documentation(a)lists.ipfire.org > > > > Betreff: Re: Xen Documentation > > > >=20 > > > > Hi, > > > >=20 > > > > if I may send you a little wishlist: > > > >=20 > > > > There are many many guides about how to set up a Xen server with Debi= an. > > > > I am not sure about the state of all of them. Some of them are based = on > > > > outdated versions of Debian. I suppose it is best to merge them all > > > > together and delete the rest. > > > >=20 > > > > http://wiki.ipfire.org/start?do=3Dsearch&id=3Dxen > > > >=20 > > > > Maybe it is a good idea to start a little virtualisation section > > > > (http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/virtualization/start) with subsections for > > > > Xen (http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/virtualization/xen/start), KVM and all > > > > the rest. > > > >=20 > > > > Explaining an installation of the IPFire system from scratch should n= ot > > > > be necessary but the differences to using Xen should be pointed out > > > > somewhere. > > > >=20 > > > > I personally am always confused about the HVM and PV thing. What shou= ld > > > > people use? What are the advantages/disadvantages? > > > >=20 > > > > There was also this: > > > >=20 > > > > http://planet.ipfire.org/post/dropping-support-for-xen-3-x-deprecatio= n-warning > > > > http://planet.ipfire.org/post/bye-bye-xen-legacy-kernel > > > >=20 > > > > Many people use the feature where you can hand over the physical > > > > hardware to the guest machine. Does this actually still work? What are > > > > the benefits of that? > > > >=20 > > > > All this information should be out there somewhere in the wiki. Putti= ng > > > > it all together in a nice section with small pages which are easy to > > > > find would be really great :) > > > >=20 > > > > -Michael > > > >=20 > > > > On Tue, 2015-02-17 at 03:10 -0600, R. W. Rodolico wrote: > > > > > David, > > > > >=20 > > > > > It would be great if you could get some notes on this. Even if they= are > > > > > rough, it would be better than nothing. Having never messed with KVM > > > > > (I'm Debian/Xen for the most part), I really don't know much about = it, > > > > > though I do engage in "religious wars" over KVM vs Xen vs Virtual B= ox > > > > > with from friends/associates of mine. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Anyway, if you had some brief notes, it would be great to include t= hem. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Rod > > > > >=20 > > > > > On 02/16/2015 11:07 PM, David J. Allen wrote: > > > > > > On 02/16/2015 08:11 PM, R. W. Rodolico wrote: > > > > > >> I am in the process of creating documentation for a Xen virtual = IPFire > > > > > >> install. If anyone else is doing it also, please let me know so = we can > > > > > >> collaborate. I'm hopeful to have it complete Friday 20 Feb. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I am trying an install using the scon image. Assuming that works= , should > > > > > >> I also write documentation on how to do it from a standard "inst= aller" > > > > > >> installation? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Again, if anyone else is doing this, please let me know so we do= not > > > > > >> duplicate efforts. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Rod > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > I am not writing docs on doing so* but I have been running Ipfire= in a > > > > > > VM under KVM on Scientific Linux 6.x for a couple of years now. I= think > > > > > > setting up Ipfire was easier than getting the KVM set up right. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > The VM host box has 2 onboard NICs, but I'm using a dual-NIC card= in the > > > > > > box which is dedicated to the Ipfire VM. The tricky part was figu= ring > > > > > > out how to give Ipfire exclusive access to the WAN NIC without it= being > > > > > > accessible to the KVM host and the other VM guests. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > * Although I should do it at least for myself - had to redo my > > > > > > installation a while back after moving and had left no notes for = myself. > > > > > > Which of course resulted in re-inventing my own wheel! ;) > > > > > >=20 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Documentation mailing list > > > > > > Documentation(a)lists.ipfire.org > > > > > > http://lists.ipfire.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation > > > > >=20 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Documentation mailing list > > > > Documentation(a)lists.ipfire.org > > > > http://lists.ipfire.org/mailman/listinfo/documentation > > > >=20 > >=20 --===============5478210571072869653==--