I needed to share orange and red on a router. Read through the stuff and figured it out, though it is slightly different from the way it is described in the Wiki. Do you think it would be good to have a separate article "VLAN on Red interface" article? If not, I'll put it on my own wiki instead. Rod -- "Rod" Rodolico Daily Data, Inc. POB 140465 Dallas TX 75214-0465 214.827.2170 http://www.dailydata.net