First, Michael, thank you for the excellent article. It was longer than normal, but well worth the read. I now understand why the ARM stuff is such a pain in the rear. Some of the articles are definitely transient (ie, new release, stuff like that), but articles like this are not. I was wondering if there is a need to place that article (and possibly others like it) in the documentation site. Under a special section? Rod -- R. W. "Rod" Rodolico Daily Data, Inc. POB 140465 Dallas TX 75214-0465 http://www.dailydata.net 214.827.2170