Well sorry for the late reply (used wrong reply address),

I agree that the load can also be found in the graphs and that the
logged on user is also not necessary to have in the bar.
Besides Fischers request from the Forum, I just took a look on the
legacy theme were the complete Uptime output was also in the footer,
so even it didn't make any different for my self I included it again.

But time and timezone (you do not always administrate a machine that is
in the local timezone, or maybe use the UTC time for your network)
should really be displayed in GUI.
The Uptime should also be displayed, maybe only on the home site.
I don't want to check the logs when was last reboot, or if I see uptime
is short I can check the logs for the reason.

Regarding the load, I have an solution in mind to reduce the load for
the server.
But first it should be clear if the display of the system time in the GUI
is wanted or not.

-Kim

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [PATCH] actual system time and timezone info-bar to ipfire
theme
From: Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire.org>
To: Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org>,
development@lists.ipfire.org
Date: 2015.08.13 - 23:25:32
> On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 19:33 +0200, Matthias Fischer wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> my few cents for this:
>>
>> I'm used to see some (important) information by the *first* look, 
>> especially things regarding the actual 'time', 'uptime', 'load' and 
>> 'traffic'. For example: in the past I had to search for the load 
>> graph 
>> to see if "something is going on", now I see it at a glance. Good. 
>> For 
>> me, this is an important information, other opinions may vary...
> I get that, but the firewall is not really a good thing to check for
> the time. You will also not really notice if the clock is a minute or
> two off.
>
> Why do you check the uptime on your machines? And what does the load
> tell you? The only thing that is interesting to know about the load is
> how it develops over time and we have that in a graph.
>
>> In my view, 'Date' and 'User:' are not so important, similar to the 
>> 'Automatic update'-feature. For me it would be ok, if this would be 
>> static and only updated generating the current page.
>>
>> This is why I originally added these wanted information by simply 
>> adding 
>> some ~kind of 'uptime'-command to my footer:
>> http://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12177#p88508
>>
>> Furthermore, I noticed that keeping a page open costs some system 
>> load, 
>> generated by Javascript(?).
> This will fork a new perl process every time, load the code of the web
> user interface, execute the CGI and then send back the result. I did
> not look at the code what is done and how often it is done.
>
> Not sure what you are asking, but this creates load on both the client
> and firewall.
>
> -Michael
>
>> Jm2C
>> Regards
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>> On 13.08.2015 18:33, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 15:00 +0200, Larsen wrote:
>>>> Hi Kim,
>>>>
>>>> I have been using this for not so long either, but I can tell you
>>>> that
>>>> patches should be sent inline (no attachment) and you have to 
>>>> disable
>>> Indeed, we can comment on an inline patch much easier. Patchwork
>>> however parsed the attachment correctly, so it is okay for this 
>>> time.
>>>
>>>> line-wrap in your mail client.
>>>> Some examples: http://patchwork.ipfire.org/project/ipfire/list/
>>> On the thing itself: I saw the conversation on the IPFire forum and
>>> must say that I do not really get why all this information is 
>>> needed on
>>> the web user interface. So I would like to discuss this first 
>>> before
>>> looking closely at the patch.
>>>
>>> Time: I get that this is a good information to know just to check 
>>> if
>>> the clock of the system is running correctly. If the timezone needs 
>>> to
>>> be included if it is local time is debatable.
>>>
>>> Load: I do not really understand why this is an important 
>>> information
>>> that should be on every single page of the web user interface. Most
>>> users do not even really understand the meaning of these values and
>>> often worry about numbers above a certain value they are used to.
>>>
>>> I think this could be as well below the load graph.
>>>
>>> Logged in users and uptime: There is no point in this. I wonder why 
>>> you
>>> find this is important.
>>>
>>> So this information is automatically updated by Javascript every 
>>> other
>>> second. This will always return a wrong time because there is 
>>> obviously
>>> lots of latency on the network. What is wrong with just embedding 
>>> the
>>> time when the page was generated?
>>>
>>> I just would like to hear your objective or opinion on this.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>> hth,
>>>> Lars
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:50:52 +0200, Xaver4all <xaver4all@gmx.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> this is my first time using this mailing-list thing,
>>>>> so hopefully I do everything according to your CoC.
>>>>>
>>>>> [PATCH]
>>>>> add actual system time and timezone info-bar to ipfire theme.
>>>>> position can be configured in GUI user-settings, default is 
>>>>> off.
>>>>>
>>>>> future reference, German discussion in forum:
>>>>> http://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12177
>>>>>
>>>>> attached is a patch against the actual next branch
>>>>>
>>>>> br,
>>>>> Kim