Hi,

sorry for not getting back earlier...

On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 23:23 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> attached you find design/layout suggestions for all mentioned captive
> portal websites.

It looks great!

> Some notes:
> The layout is always the same. You are able to build one template
> which can used for every site.

That is handy.

> The layout is very responsive friendly (smartphone, tablet) as you
> can see at the access-voucher_360.jpg (standard Android phone size)

> I strongly recommend to don't use scrollable content within a
> scrollable page (see first 2 screenshots from Alex). You become crazy
> if you want to navigate though that on a touch device.

LOL

> A specific header image can be used for every case.

Okay, we need to build a way to upload that and possibly some
specifications that we can give to people to design theirs in the right
way.

> There are tiny and simple code snippets which scale the header image
> for every size correctly. I'll check this out to provide you with
> more detailed information.
> Just checked getbootstrap.com. Seems to be that such a functionality
> is already included.

Cool.

> A footer where you are able to promote IPFire ;)

Always good.

> Layout based on Bootstap 3
> I used the color-theme for the upcoming new IPFire website and WebUI.
> @Michael the bright red is not the new primary IPFire red ;) It's the
> error-red. I'll show more about that soon.
> I suggested new text for the errors. Maybe you like it :)
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

There is nothing from me I would like to see changed. So I suppose that
we can regard this as the final draft.

Would you be up for arranging a telephone conference with Daniel &
Alex, because I think that I have many questions regarding how we get
from the draft to code :) How about Monday evening?

Best,
-Michael

> Best,
> Maurice
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Daniel Weismüller <daniel.weismueller
> @ipfire.org> wrote:
> > No.
> >
> > The last screenshot shows the customization part from "good old"
> > configurationsite of the url-filter.
> > For better understanding i've made a  (3) screenshot(s) of the
> > whole page.
> >
> > - Daniel
> >
> >
> > Am 01.02.2016 um 14:32 schrieb Maurice Gesswein:
> > > Is that the place where the hoster can include his own T&Cs,
> > > upload a company logo, add the company name, etc?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Daniel Weismüller <daniel.weismue
> > > ller@ipfire.org> wrote:
> > > > me again :)
> > > >
> > > > Another screenshot now from the webif where you may customize
> > > > blockpage from the url-filter.
> > > >
> > > > - Daniel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 01.02.2016 um 14:24 schrieb Maurice Gesswein:
> > > > > Perfect. Thanks Daniel.
> > > > > Am 01.02.2016 2:22 nachm. schrieb "Daniel Weismüller" <daniel
> > > > > .weismueller@ipfire.org>:
> > > > > > Here are the screenshots as requested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Daniel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am 31.01.2016 um 08:53 schrieb Maurice Gesswein:
> > > > > > > Good morning,
> > > > > > > I use lorem ipsum than. Thanks.
> > > > > > > Am 31.01.2016 4:31 vorm. schrieb "Michael Tremer" <michae
> > > > > > > l.tremer@ipfire.org>:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 2016-01-30 at 22:06 +0100, Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Can someone send me the terms & condition text from
> > > > > > > > the screenshots
> > > > > > > > > as real text?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is a text area where the user will type in the
> > > > > > > > T&Cs. So there is
> > > > > > > > no predefined text and it might change.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you still want some sample or can you just use lorem
> > > > > > > > ipsum?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Michael Tremer <mich
> > > > > > > > ael.tremer@ipfir
> > > > > > > > > e.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2016-01-29 at 20:37 +0100, Alexander Marx
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > OK, in general I got it. Thanks for the screens
> > > > > > > > Alex.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few questions and suggestions.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > To be prepared for further upcoming pages like
> > > > > > > > these, are you
> > > > > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > > > > > to hand over a list of them (perhaps with
> > > > > > > > screenshots)? Not
> > > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > > > > needed, but very helpful to deliver a
> > > > > > > > consistent flexible
> > > > > > > > > > design.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Don't worry about them too much.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > As far as i know there are no other "external"
> > > > > > > > pages. The
> > > > > > > > > > > Webinterface of IPFire has an own design and
> > > > > > > > several themes, i
> > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > you already saw them.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > However, there are a few. I included both of them
> > > > > > > > in the first
> > > > > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > > > On top of that there are the squid error pages. I
> > > > > > > > am not too sure
> > > > > > > > > > if we
> > > > > > > > > > can modify those quite nicely.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I will figure that out and get back to you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Should the hoster be able to include his own
> > > > > > > > logo/brand? That
> > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > give the users a lot more trust in that things.
> > > > > > > > If an image
> > > > > > > > > > upload
> > > > > > > > > > > > is not in the current scope, I suggest a
> > > > > > > > prominent headline
> > > > > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > > > > > the hoster is able to include the company name.
> > > > > > > > Do you agree?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Actually the hoster is able to change the Title
> > > > > > > > (The top-title in
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > screenies like "Login" or on the other page "My
> > > > > > > > private HotSpot")
> > > > > > > > > > > maybe we can add a Logo but we have to decide
> > > > > > > > which dimensions
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > allowed. This is difficult as many companies have
> > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > > > dimensions of Logos. Some are 4:3, others are
> > > > > > > > like 27:9 and so
> > > > > > > > > > on. 
> > > > > > > > > > > What do other people think?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think we don't need that. We usually have the
> > > > > > > > opportunity to
> > > > > > > > > > upload
> > > > > > > > > > an entire HTML template, so that if someone wants
> > > > > > > > to replace the
> > > > > > > > > > page,
> > > > > > > > > > they can do that. But just a logo is a bit too
> > > > > > > > easy. Who ever wants
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > brand this as their own should do that with the
> > > > > > > > rest, too.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > And of course we should not forget about doing some
> > > > > > > > advertisement
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > our own product :) However, I get many emails from
> > > > > > > > annoyed students
> > > > > > > > > > that can't access dirty websites in their school.
> > > > > > > > LOL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Since it's part of IPFire, should those pages
> > > > > > > > be designed like
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > new upcoming style of IPFire? Means same color
> > > > > > > > theme, button
> > > > > > > > > > style,
> > > > > > > > > > > > IPFire logo, caption like "powered by IPFire",
> > > > > > > > etc? Or should
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > totally generic so that the users has no clue
> > > > > > > > what system shows
> > > > > > > > > > > > those dialogs?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I would like a "powered by IPFire" at least and
> > > > > > > > even advise people
> > > > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > > > replace the theme by their own to keep that in.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This does not need to be like the new stuff but I
> > > > > > > > think it should
> > > > > > > > > > feel
> > > > > > > > > > a bit like IPFire but also be neutral. We do not
> > > > > > > > need to hide that
> > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > is an IPFire system though.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No. I think if we have something like a
> > > > > > > > "background-color"
> > > > > > > > > > instead of
> > > > > > > > > > > a picture, we should the hoster let configure it,
> > > > > > > > so the people
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > able to adpat the colors to their own corporate
> > > > > > > > identity. So if
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > woul like to work with gradients or similar, i
> > > > > > > > would recommend to
> > > > > > > > > > > make it configurable.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nah, not too many options. We wanted to keep this
> > > > > > > > simple.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Michael, what do you think?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > See above :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Alexander Marx
> > > > > > > > <alexander.marx
> > > > > > > > > > @oab
> > > > > > > > > > > > .de> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the actual ugly screenshots from the
> > > > > > > > loginpage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > one version with voucher access and the other
> > > > > > > > one with
> > > > > > > > > > license
> > > > > > > > > > > > > agreement.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 29.01.2016 um 02:59 schrieb Michael
> > > > > > > > Tremer:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Hi Maurice,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that you are busy with other things,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > nevertheless I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like to send you this request.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex is currently working on a so called
> > > > > > > > captive portal.
> > > > > > > > > > That
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are these
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > things that pop up on your phone or laptop
> > > > > > > > when you connect
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wireless network in a hotel or cafe. That
> > > > > > > > web page that is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shown is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what we need to design now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We also have a few other pages that are
> > > > > > > > shown to the users
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > network when for example a web page is
> > > > > > > > blocked. That page
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > however is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > really ugly and probably needs a remake as
> > > > > > > > well. I want to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > focus on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > captive portal for now, but I guess you
> > > > > > > > would like to know
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are more. [1] and [2]. Really bad right?
> > > > > > > > They scare users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex will send you a screenshot of the
> > > > > > > > development version
> > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just a quick page to show the
> > > > > > > > concept and what we
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > roughly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > after.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are two options for now. The first
> > > > > > > > one is where the
> > > > > > > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > has to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > agree to a license and click a "I accept"
> > > > > > > > button. The
> > > > > > > > > > second
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > where the user will have to type in a
> > > > > > > > voucher code and
> > > > > > > > > > click a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > button
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to log in.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you like to work on this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, a quick mock-up would be okay for
> > > > > > > > now, because we
> > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > put this entire project on the wishlist to
> > > > > > > > raise some
> > > > > > > > > > crowd-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > funding
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > money. Giving the user that mock-up would
> > > > > > > > certainly help so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a good impression what they are
> > > > > > > > supporting here. The
> > > > > > > > > > actual
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementation will happen a bit later when
> > > > > > > > enough funds
> > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > raised.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Alex, would you please send some
> > > > > > > > screenshots of the two
> > > > > > > > > > pages
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > so far?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. @Maurice, I know that I am throwing a
> > > > > > > > bit of random
> > > > > > > > > > stuff
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > at you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just let me know when I don't make sense
> > > > > > > > any more :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9sw4wUeUsgQ/V
> > > > > > > > fU-c33FMDI/AAAAA
> > > > > > > > > > AAAD
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > zM/bBnJN4oCffo/s640/31.png
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] http://wiki.ipfire.org/_media/en/addons
> > > > > > > > /clamav/squidcla
> > > > > > > > > > mav-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > detection.png
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >