Am 25.02.2016 7:29 vorm. schrieb "Michael Tremer" <michael.tremer@ipfire.org>:

Hi Maurice,

thank you for your great work.

I am still traveling and therefore had not much time to look into this
in too much detail or even start implementing the design into HTML,
etc.

However, I guess that this is sufficient for the moment. Questions
might arise as I go along. I do not have any clues on how to build the
buttons and some other elements, but I will figure that out.

On Bootstrap 3 vs. 4. We can go with 4. We should do the most recent
version if we can.

Best,
-Michael

On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 23:18 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just want to check if you are able to work with the Guides? Do you
> have any questions?
>
> I uploaded a couple of more Guides and I used the "Access Page"
> (access_[width].jpg) as an example to show the different viewports.
> You find further information here: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
>
> I named them like this:
> filename_360/320 = Smartphone
> filename_768 = Tablet Portrait mode
> filename_1024 = Tablet Landscape mode
> filename_1280 = Desktop/Laptop
>
> I used the Bootstrap 3 Grid System for all of these pages. Or are we
> going to use Bootstrap 4? Bootstrap 3 has no viewport/media query for
> 7" Tablets. Bootstrap 4 does (http://v4-alpha.getbootstrap.com/layout
> /grid/#grid-options)
>
> If you have something online I would love to have a look and could
> try to do some fine-tuning if needed.
>
> Best,
> Maurice
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung@gmail
> .com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Guides for Error, Virus & Denied (which are actually all the same
> > designs) are now available. A guide for the "Access" page for
> > phones as well.
> >
> > Best,
> > Maurice
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung@gma
> > il.com> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Below you find a link to a shared Dropbox folder. In that folder
> > > you will find all relevant designs, guides, images etc. for the
> > > new IPFire.
> > >
> > > Dropbox shared folder
> > >
> > >
> > > What's currently in?
> > > Captive Portal designs for desktop
> > > One Guide for the "Access Page" (image + txt)
> > > The first 4 StyleGuide sheets (these are work in progress!)
> > > Buttons
> > > Colors
> > > Fonts
> > > Forms
> > >
> > > I know that there are some information missing. I'll provide them
> > > asap. I think with that information you are able to start with
> > > coding.
> > >
> > > Furthermore I think I found a good solution to support you with
> > > the code. I'm going to do the styles for buttons, input fields,
> > > etc. So I'll try to provide the CSS markup for that elements. And
> > > I would like to try to make some fine tuning when you are almost
> > > finished.
> > >
> > > Let me know if you have questions.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Maurice
> > >
> > > PS: If you have Dropbox accounts let me know. I'll add you than
> > > to that folder. If you don't have an account, you should consider
> > > to create one for free. It would make it a lot easier for you to
> > > find things. 
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:35 PM, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung@g
> > > mail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer
> > > > @ipfire.org> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2016-02-16 at 11:07 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > just want to give a short status update.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for the update.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I did some researching about customizing Bootstrap and
> > > > > found some
> > > > > > promising websites/tools. Here are 2 of them:
> > > > > > http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> > > > > > https://pikock.github.io/bootstrap-magic/app/index.html
> > > > > > I figured out that it seems pretty easy to use a custom
> > > > > grid system
> > > > > > for Bootstrap. I would like to use a more suitable grid
> > > > > which is
> > > > > > based on a 8px grid. More about that later.
> > > > >
> > > > > What would be the benefit of that? What disadvantages does
> > > > > the default
> > > > > grid have?
> > > > Only cosmetic reasons. I'll review a custom grid before if it
> > > > works flawlessly. Perhaps it is not worth. We can skip that for
> > > > the Captive Portal and adapt it later if it works well.
> > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > > > I spend more time at the StyleGuide so that we are able to
> > > > > use the
> > > > > > same colors, fontsizes and UI elements for the Homepage,
> > > > > FireInfo,
> > > > > > Web Interface and Captive Portal.
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Maurice
> > > > >
> > > > > -Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelu
> > > > > ng@gmail.c
> > > > > > om> wrote:
> > > > > > > I'll do my best to answer your questions :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Unfortunately I was not able to spend more time at IPFire
> > > > > so far.
> > > > > > > Will continue working on it this week.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.t
> > > > > remer@ipfi
> > > > > > > re.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 16:24 +0100, Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just want to check if our tel conf is still the plan
> > > > > for today
> > > > > > > > > evening at 9pm CET? If so, same phone and room
> > > > > number?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes it is. Same number, same conference room.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It might not take very long, but I have a few questions
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > wanted to
> > > > > > > > discuss feedback in general :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alex is working on the image upload functionality. So
> > > > > from our
> > > > > > > > end we
> > > > > > > > are almost there to start working on implementing the
> > > > > design.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Michael Tremer
> > > > > <michael.tremer
> > > > > > > > @ipfir
> > > > > > > > > e.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2016-02-04 at 23:38 +0100, Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I attached a quick first impression what I meant
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > "Guides".
> > > > > > > > > > Info
> > > > > > > > > > > for the dots (C1, F1, etc), primary text color,
> > > > > default
> > > > > > > > fontsize,
> > > > > > > > > > > button style, etc will be all predefined in a
> > > > > separate
> > > > > > > > sheet. As
> > > > > > > > > > well
> > > > > > > > > > > as a sheet for tablet and mobile view.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This looks good. It is a good way to start working
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > implementing
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > one soon. However it raises new questions LOL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned the 12 column grid is based on
> > > > > Bootstrap.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I don't find 12 columns...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps that clears a lot of your very first
> > > > > questions. If
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > like to have a call at that stage, I'm fine with
> > > > > Monday but
> > > > > > > > > > please at
> > > > > > > > > > > 9pm.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Michael Tremer
> > > > > <michael.tr
> > > > > > > > emer@i
> > > > > > > > > > pfir
> > > > > > > > > > > e.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > yes 8 pm CET is fine for me. Can also do later
> > > > > if you
> > > > > > > > prefer.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2016-02-04 at 20:34 +0100, Alexander
> > > > > Marx wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Michael and Maurice,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 03.02.2016 um 15:36 schrieb Maurice
> > > > > Gesswein:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Michael
> > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > > > > > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > re.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry for not getting back earlier...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 23:23 +0100,
> > > > > Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attached you find design/layout
> > > > > suggestions for
> > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > captive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > portal websites.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy to hear that :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some notes:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The layout is always the same. You are
> > > > > able to
> > > > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > template
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which can used for every site.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is handy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The layout is very responsive friendly
> > > > > > > > (smartphone,
> > > > > > > > > > tablet)
> > > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can see at the access-voucher_360.jpg
> > > > > (standard
> > > > > > > > Android
> > > > > > > > > > > > phone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > size)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I strongly recommend to don't use
> > > > > scrollable
> > > > > > > > content
> > > > > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scrollable page (see first 2
> > > > > screenshots from
> > > > > > > > Alex).
> > > > > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > > > > > become
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crazy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you want to navigate though that on
> > > > > a touch
> > > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A specific header image can be used for
> > > > > every
> > > > > > > > case.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, we need to build a way to upload
> > > > > that and
> > > > > > > > possibly
> > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specifications that we can give to people
> > > > > to design
> > > > > > > > > > theirs in
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Specs would be a recommended minimum width
> > > > > and height
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > image. Additionally an imagesize (KB)
> > > > > restriction.
> > > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > want
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to load a 10MB image ;) Resizing is handled
> > > > > by the
> > > > > > > > > > mentioned
> > > > > > > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > snippets or perhaps Bootstap itself.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are tiny and simple code snippets
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > > scale the
> > > > > > > > > > > > header
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > image
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for every size correctly. I'll check
> > > > > this out to
> > > > > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more detailed information.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just checked getbootstrap.com. Seems to
> > > > > be that
> > > > > > > > such a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > functionality
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is already included.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cool.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A footer where you are able to promote
> > > > > IPFire ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always good.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Layout based on Bootstap 3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used the color-theme for the upcoming
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > > IPFire
> > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WebUI.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Michael the bright red is not the new
> > > > > primary
> > > > > > > > IPFire
> > > > > > > > > > red
> > > > > > > > > > > > ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > error-red. I'll show more about that
> > > > > soon.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggested new text for the errors.
> > > > > Maybe you
> > > > > > > > like it
> > > > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know if you have any questions
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > > concerns.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is nothing from me I would like to
> > > > > see
> > > > > > > > changed. So
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suppose that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we can regard this as the final draft.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be up for arranging a telephone
> > > > > > > > conference with
> > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex, because I think that I have many
> > > > > questions
> > > > > > > > > > regarding
> > > > > > > > > > > > how we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from the draft to code :) How about
> > > > > Monday evening?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can of course chat. Keep in mind that
> > > > > I'll provide
> > > > > > > > - I
> > > > > > > > > > call
> > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Guides" - for you. It's kind of a
> > > > > construction plan
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > blueprint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (font size, colors, margins, paddings,
> > > > > etc). Maybe
> > > > > > > > it's not
> > > > > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > needed to chat before you code anything. My
> > > > > guides
> > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > clear
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lot of your questions. Let me finish such a
> > > > > blueprint
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > let my know your thoughts :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that mean we have a "date" on Monday,
> > > > > 8th at 20:00
> > > > > > > > > > german
> > > > > > > > > > > > local
> > > > > > > > > > > > > time? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > telephone conference ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Daniel
> > > > > Weismüller
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <daniel.weismueller
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ipfire.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last screenshot shows the
> > > > > customization
> > > > > > > > part from
> > > > > > > > > > > > "good
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > old"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > configurationsite of the url-filter.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For better understanding i've made a 
> > > > > (3)
> > > > > > > > > > screenshot(s)
> > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whole page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Daniel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 01.02.2016 um 14:32 schrieb
> > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > > > Gesswein:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that the place where the hoster
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > > include his
> > > > > > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T&Cs,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > upload a company logo, add the
> > > > > company name,
> > > > > > > > etc?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:27 PM,
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > > > > > Weismüller
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <daniel.weismue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ller@ipfire.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me again :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another screenshot now from the
> > > > > webif where
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > customize
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blockpage from the url-filter.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Daniel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 01.02.2016 um 14:24 schrieb
> > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > > > Gesswein:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perfect. Thanks Daniel.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 01.02.2016 2:22 nachm.
> > > > > schrieb "Daniel
> > > > > > > > > > > > Weismüller"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <daniel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .weismueller@ipfire.org>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the screenshots as
> > > > > requested.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Daniel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 31.01.2016 um 08:53
> > > > > schrieb Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > Gesswein:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use lorem ipsum than.
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 31.01.2016 4:31 vorm.
> > > > > schrieb
> > > > > > > > "Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michae
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > l.tremer@ipfire.org>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2016-01-30 at
> > > > > 22:06 +0100,
> > > > > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gesswein
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone send me the
> > > > > terms &
> > > > > > > > > > condition
> > > > > > > > > > > > text
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the screenshots
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as real text?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a text area
> > > > > where the user
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > type
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > T&Cs. So there is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no predefined text and it
> > > > > might
> > > > > > > > change.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you still want some
> > > > > sample or
> > > > > > > > can you
> > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lorem
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ipsum?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at
> > > > > 4:01 AM,
> > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mich
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ael.tremer@ipfir
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2016-01-29 at
> > > > > 20:37
> > > > > > > > +0100,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marx
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, in general I
> > > > > got it.
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > screens
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few
> > > > > questions and
> > > > > > > > > > > > suggestions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To be prepared
> > > > > for further
> > > > > > > > > > upcoming
> > > > > > > > > > > > pages
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > these, are you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to hand over a
> > > > > list of them
> > > > > > > > > > (perhaps
> > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > screenshots)? Not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needed, but very
> > > > > helpful to
> > > > > > > > > > deliver a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent flexible
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > design.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry about
> > > > > them too
> > > > > > > > much.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as i know
> > > > > there are no
> > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "external"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Webinterface of
> > > > > IPFire has an
> > > > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > > > design
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > several themes, i
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you already saw
> > > > > them.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, there are a
> > > > > few. I
> > > > > > > > included
> > > > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On top of that there
> > > > > are the
> > > > > > > > squid
> > > > > > > > > > error
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am not too sure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can modify those
> > > > > quite nicely.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will figure that
> > > > > out and get
> > > > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should the hoster
> > > > > be able
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > include
> > > > > > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > logo/brand? That
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give the users a
> > > > > lot more
> > > > > > > > trust
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If an image
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > upload
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not in the
> > > > > current
> > > > > > > > scope, I
> > > > > > > > > > > > suggest a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prominent headline
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the hoster is
> > > > > able to
> > > > > > > > include the
> > > > > > > > > > > > company
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > name.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you agree?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually the hoster
> > > > > is able
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Title
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The top-title in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > screenies like
> > > > > "Login" or on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "My
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > private HotSpot")
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe we can add a
> > > > > Logo but
> > > > > > > > we have
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which dimensions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allowed. This is
> > > > > difficult as
> > > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > companies have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dimensions of
> > > > > Logos. Some are
> > > > > > > > 4:3,
> > > > > > > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like 27:9 and so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do other
> > > > > people think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we don't need
> > > > > that. We
> > > > > > > > > > usually
> > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opportunity to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > upload
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an entire HTML
> > > > > template, so
> > > > > > > > that if
> > > > > > > > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wants
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to replace the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > page,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they can do that. But
> > > > > just a
> > > > > > > > logo is
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > easy. Who ever wants
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brand this as their
> > > > > own should
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rest, too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And of course we
> > > > > should not
> > > > > > > > forget
> > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advertisement
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our own product :)
> > > > > However, I
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > many
> > > > > > > > > > > > emails
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > annoyed students
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that can't access
> > > > > dirty
> > > > > > > > websites in
> > > > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > school.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since it's part
> > > > > of IPFire,
> > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be designed like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new upcoming
> > > > > style of
> > > > > > > > IPFire?
> > > > > > > > > > Means
> > > > > > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > color
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > theme, button
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > style,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IPFire logo,
> > > > > caption like
> > > > > > > > > > "powered by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IPFire",
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc? Or should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > totally generic
> > > > > so that the
> > > > > > > > users
> > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what system shows
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those dialogs?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like a
> > > > > "powered by
> > > > > > > > IPFire" at
> > > > > > > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even advise people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > replace the theme by
> > > > > their own
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not need to
> > > > > be like
> > > > > > > > the new
> > > > > > > > > > > > stuff
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think it should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a bit like IPFire but
> > > > > also be
> > > > > > > > > > neutral. We
> > > > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to hide that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is an IPFire system
> > > > > though.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. I think if we
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > > > like a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "background-color"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a picture, we
> > > > > should the
> > > > > > > > hoster let
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > configure it,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so the people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able to adpat the
> > > > > colors to
> > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > corporate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > identity. So if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > woul like to work
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > gradients or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > similar, i
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would recommend to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make it
> > > > > configurable.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nah, not too many
> > > > > options. We
> > > > > > > > wanted
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simple.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael, what do
> > > > > you think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See above :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 29,
> > > > > 2016 at
> > > > > > > > 1:51 PM,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alexander Marx
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <alexander.marx
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @oab
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .de> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the
> > > > > actual ugly
> > > > > > > > > > > > screenshots
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loginpage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one version
> > > > > with voucher
> > > > > > > > access
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > license
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreement.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 29.01.2016
> > > > > um 02:59
> > > > > > > > schrieb
> > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Hi Maurice,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that
> > > > > you are
> > > > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nevertheless I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like to send
> > > > > you this
> > > > > > > > > > request.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex is
> > > > > currently
> > > > > > > > working on
> > > > > > > > > > a so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > called
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > captive portal.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are these
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things that
> > > > > pop up on
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > phone
> > > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > laptop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when you connect
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wireless
> > > > > network in a
> > > > > > > > hotel
> > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > cafe.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > web page that is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shown is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what we need
> > > > > to design
> > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We also have
> > > > > a few
> > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > pages
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shown to the users
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > network when
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > example a
> > > > > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blocked. That page
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really ugly
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > > > > needs a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remake as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. I want to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > focus on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > captive
> > > > > portal for now,
> > > > > > > > but I
> > > > > > > > > > > > guess
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would like to know
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are more. [1]
> > > > > and [2].
> > > > > > > > Really
> > > > > > > > > > bad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They scare users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex will
> > > > > send you a
> > > > > > > > > > screenshot
> > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > development version
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just
> > > > > a quick
> > > > > > > > page to
> > > > > > > > > > show
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concept and what we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > roughly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are two
> > > > > options
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one is where the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > user
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agree to a
> > > > > license and
> > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > > a "I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accept"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > button. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where the
> > > > > user will
> > > > > > > > have to
> > > > > > > > > > type
> > > > > > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voucher code and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > click a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > button
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to log in.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you
> > > > > like to work
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, a
> > > > > quick mock-up
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > okay
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now, because we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > put this
> > > > > entire project
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wishlist to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raise some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crowd-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > funding
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > money. Giving
> > > > > the user
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > mock-
> > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > certainly help so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a good
> > > > > impression
> > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supporting here. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actual
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > implementation will
> > > > > > > > happen a
> > > > > > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > later when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough funds
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raised.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Alex, would
> > > > > you please
> > > > > > > > send
> > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > screenshots of the two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so far?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S.
> > > > > @Maurice, I know
> > > > > > > > that I
> > > > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > throwing a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bit of random
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stuff
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just let me
> > > > > know when I
> > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sense
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any more :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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