On 1. May 2018, at 13:43, Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein@ipfire.org> wrote:

Hi there,

I would like to discuss 2 things:
Frontend technique for the upcoming IPFire Webinterface (what was the official name for it?)
Setup of a project board to keep us up to date.

IPFire Webinterface
I know that it will still take a while until we start with the Webinterface, but I want to discuss this early.

I would like to suggest to use "CSS-Grid" for it instead of Bootstrap. Sven, if I remember right you customized Bootstrap a lot and it becomes a bit messy. Is this correct?

Yes, you are correct. The Bootstrap Code base blows up the whole code basis and at the moment there is a lot of code we don’t use.

I'm pretty sure that the IPFire Team is not looking for a standard prebuild Bootstrap Admin Interface which you can for free or you can buy for ~30$. They want a unique Interface. Means we need a customized Bootstrap. Michael, correct my if I'm wrong. If my assumption is right it doesn't worked well with the Website.

Without Bootstrap the Design is not even more bound to Bootstrap's Layout Grid. During the last years I designed for responsive webapps and native mobile apps those grids restrict me more as they help. I also taked with a Frontend Dev at my work. He confirmed that such layout grids makes the code more complex if you need to break that grid for some usecases. Now with CSS-Grid it's pretty easy to build up a responsive layout.

Sven, what do you think? If you are not so familiar with CSS-Grid now, take a look at this free course: https://cssgrid.io/ (sponsored by mozilla)

I already worked a little bit with CSS-Grid so I know the basics.

Project Board
What do you think about using a project board like Trello? With such a board it's easy to set up tasks for the involved members, follow the progress and it can be also used for reporting bugs. Honestly Bugzilla is extremly annoying to use. It's very mighty, of course. But takes 3x more time to create a new ticket as e.g. Trello takes and screenshots etc. can't be placed from the clipboard. Which is very very useful for bug-tickets ;)

Personally I like Trello. Easy, fast, free. Github has a build in project board as well. It's pretty similar to Trello. There are also a couple if open source solutions around. Like wekan.github.io.

I use Wekan to communicate with my clients, hosted on the smallest Digital Ocean host. I’m happy with it, before there was a Google Speadsheet that was really messy.

Michael, what about making the process more transparent and efficient by using a project board? :)

Looking forward for you feedbacks.

Best,
Maurice