Hi

Here are some infos about our jabber server.
http://planet.ipfire.org/post/opening-the-ipfire-jabber-server

or look here
http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/community/talk.ipfire.org/start

Weekdays I'm on there and mostly Michael, too.

-

Daniel

Am 24.03.2017 um 13:18 schrieb Sven:

Hello,

there are Open-Source Alternatives to Slack for example: https://about.mattermost.com

I have nothing against this mailing list but when you have a longer conversation I think that it becomes a little bit hard to read, and for a conversation over the phone we don’t have enough to discuss (at the moment) :-D

But IM with Jabber is fine for me.

Greetings,

Sven

Am 24.03.2017 um 12:57 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire.org>:

Hi,

On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 18:53 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:

I've copied the current Homepage design from Photoshop to Sketch to
speed up in the future. Same with the styleguide/pattern library.

Cool. Can we access that in some way? The Dropbox thing has vanished,
too and I had someone working on the Captive Portal which we don't have
a copy of.

Next step is to design the key viewports for the homepage. Already
started with that. I'm pretty busy in the evenings with private stuff
like home improvements and annoying things which needs to be done.

Furthermore I had the idea to create a Slack channel for a more
comfortable collaboration with Sven. Discuss and share stuff very
easily and fast. I have very good experience with that tool during
the last ~2 years.

What do you think Michael, would you sign up and create a IPFire
Slack channel? The free basic version is totally enough.

I am very much against Slack. There are two main reasons:

a) It is proprietary. We cannot rely on this being free for forever and
I do not want to force anyone to sign up for something in order to
communicate with people.

b) We cannot archive it. The big advantage of a mailing list is that we
have an archive of all messages that everyone can access from
everywhere.

That's why I would like to keep the main conversation on this list if
possible. For some work it makes more sense to do some instant
messaging or use a phone.

For that we do have our own Jabber server and a SIP VoIP server that
you can even call from your landline (this might be quite handy since
you two are in different countries):

 http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/community/talk.ipfire.org/start

I hope this makes up for Slack. But if you have any other reasons I
forgot to convince me, feel free to do so :)

Best,
-Michael

Best,
Maurice

Am 22.03.2017 6:24 nachm. schrieb "Michael Tremer" <michael.tremer@ip
fire.org>:

Hello guys,

just wanted to check in on you and see how things are going since
it has gone a
little bit quiet here.

I am traveling over the next days again, but in case there is
anything I can
help out with, please send me an email.

Best,
-Michael

On Wed, 2017-03-15 at 14:44 +0100, Sven wrote:

Hey Maurice,
no problem.
I will do it with the variables: https://getbootstrap.com/css/#gr

id-less so we

have complete control.

Greetings,
Sven

On 15 Mar 2017, at 14:37, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung@gmail.c

om> wrote:

Hey Sven,

do you think we can do a tiny customization at Bootstrap 4's

column grid

system? Just 24px gutter width instead of 30px? I found a short

guide for

that. Seems pretty easy.

http://arnique.net/web-design/58/a-quick-guide-to-changing-boot

straps-gutter

-width/

From my point of view it looks like you just need to change

this:

.col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} {
  padding-right: 15px;
  padding-left: 15px;
}
.row {
  margin-right: -15px;
  margin-left: -15px;
}  

 
to this:

.col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} {
  padding-right: 12px;
  padding-left: 12px;
}
.row {
  margin-right: -12px;
  margin-left: -12px;
}

That would help me to follow consistent UI metrics.

Best, Maurice

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer

@ipfire.org>

wrote:

It would be nice to keep the conversation in English since

there are

people
reading our mailing lists who don't speak German.

I know it might be a little bit complicated in the beginning

but I am sure

we
will all get used to it :)

-Michael

On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 15:10 +0100, Sven wrote:

Hallo Maurice,
ich antworte einfach mal in Deutsch. Englisch kann ich gut

lesen und

verstehen

aber schreibe es nicht so gern.

Im Moment baut die Seite ja auf Bootstrap auf, wird das

nicht

überflüssig wenn

du sowohl Grid als auch Pattern Library aufbaust?
In wie weit wir die Pattern Library über alle Projekte

teilen sollten

wir

sehen wenn die Webseite steht, da die im Moment Priorität

hat.

Freu mich auf die Zusammenarbeit.

Grüße,
Sven

On 14 Mar 2017, at 14:25, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung@g

mail.com>

wrote:

Don't worry about the delay :)

As far as I can remember I didn't created responsive

versions of the

IPFire

Website. It makes sense that these are at least almost

done before

Sven

starts with coding. I don't want that Sven has to guess

the font

sizes,

paddings, margins, line-height and so on. That's not his

job :) So

please

stay tuned for a proper handover. I'm sure that will help

Sven a lot.

@Sven
Hey Sven, nice to meet you :)

I just want to give some information beforehand. You may

already know

that

but I just want to get sure that we are both on the same

level.

My designs and layouts are based on a 8x8px grid (4x4px

fallback) and

are

Atomic Design driven. Touch Targets are at least 48x48px.

In some edge

cases

there might be less. Means that you will never see a

"margin: 50px"

because

50 is not dividable by 8 or 4. I would very appreciate if

you could

consider

that within your code. That method provides a great

support to follow

a

consistent line. I'm pretty sure that I'll provide all

designs via

zeplin.io. From that tool you will get (almost) every

information you

need.

Margins, paddings, colors, font size, etc.

Also I'm a big fan of Pattern Libraries. At least when it

comes to the

IPFire WUI there will be a lot of pattern usage to save

time on your

side.

My strong guess is that it would make sense to have

different Pattern

Libraries for the Website/FireInfo and WUI. But that is

totally up to

you

how to deal with that :) I think you already saw the

first designs for

the

WUI?

Hope that doesn't sound like an arrogant Designer.

Believe me that one

of my

most important goals is to make the DEVs life as

comfortable as

possible by

providing well prepared handovers. My experience with

that is that we

will

get a great output and a professional looking UI/Website.


Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Best, M

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.

tremer@ipfire

.org>

wrote:

Hello Maurice,

thank you for getting back in touch.

On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:58 +0100, Maurice Gesswein

wrote:

Hi Sven and rest of the gang,

I nearly thought that the project has died. I'm glad

to see that

this is

not

the case. Since it's very long time ago I have to

check the old

PSD

files

within the next days and make sure that you get a

good handover.

I can only apologise that everything took so long. I

would have

liked to

see
this realised quicker but time just didn't allow me to

work on it.

Luckily

Sven
is now on board to help out and together we will get

this done now!

Perhaps I'll handover the designs via zeplin.io. I've

made very

good

experience with that tool during last year. Please

give me some

days for

preparing since I'm very busy right now.

So where have we stopped? As far as I can see the

designs for the

index

and
features page are done. Is there anything I forgot?

I think what Sven mainly needs is the background images

that you

used and

so on.
I am quite sure this doesn't need to be PSD in

particular.

If required we can have a conference call with

everyone, but I am

not sure

if
there are any big questions that we cannot discuss on

the list.

Best,
-Michael

Thanks and best regards,
Maurice

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Michael Tremer <mic

hael.tremer@i

pfire.

org>

wrote:

Hi,

to send emails to the list, you just need to email

to

  ipfire-artwork@lists.ipfire.org


I copied Maurice to your request and we will wait

until he

replies.

Best,
-Michael

On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 19:51 +0100, Sven wrote:

Hi Maurice,
can you please send me the PSD files from the new

layout

(Homepage

and

Featurepage)?

Thanks,
Sven