Hi, yes 8 pm CET is fine for me. Can also do later if you prefer. -Michael On Thu, 2016-02-04 at 20:34 +0100, Alexander Marx wrote: > Hi Michael and Maurice, > > Am 03.02.2016 um 15:36 schrieb Maurice Gesswein: > > Hi > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Michael Tremer > re.org> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > sorry for not getting back earlier... > > > > > > On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 23:23 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > attached you find design/layout suggestions for all mentioned > > > captive > > > > portal websites. > > > > > > It looks great! > > > > > Happy to hear that :) > >   > > > > Some notes: > > > > The layout is always the same. You are able to build one > > > template > > > > which can used for every site. > > > > > > That is handy. > > > > > > > The layout is very responsive friendly (smartphone, tablet) as > > > you > > > > can see at the access-voucher_360.jpg (standard Android phone > > > size) > > > > > > > I strongly recommend to don't use scrollable content within a > > > > scrollable page (see first 2 screenshots from Alex). You become > > > crazy > > > > if you want to navigate though that on a touch device. > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > A specific header image can be used for every case. > > > > > > Okay, we need to build a way to upload that and possibly some > > > specifications that we can give to people to design theirs in the > > > right > > > way. > > > > > Specs would be a recommended minimum width and height for the > > image. Additionally an imagesize (KB) restriction. You don't want > > to load a 10MB image ;) Resizing is handled by the mentioned code > > snippets or perhaps Bootstap itself. > >   > > > > There are tiny and simple code snippets which scale the header > > > image > > > > for every size correctly. I'll check this out to provide you > > > with > > > > more detailed information. > > > > Just checked getbootstrap.com. Seems to be that such a > > > functionality > > > > is already included. > > > > > > Cool. > > > > > > > A footer where you are able to promote IPFire ;) > > > > > > Always good. > > > > > > > Layout based on Bootstap 3 > > > > I used the color-theme for the upcoming new IPFire website and > > > WebUI. > > > > @Michael the bright red is not the new primary IPFire red ;) > > > It's the > > > > error-red. I'll show more about that soon. > > > > I suggested new text for the errors. Maybe you like it :) > > > > > > > > Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. > > > > > > There is nothing from me I would like to see changed. So I > > > suppose that > > > we can regard this as the final draft. > > > > > > Would you be up for arranging a telephone conference with Daniel > > > & > > > Alex, because I think that I have many questions regarding how we > > > get > > > from the draft to code :) How about Monday evening? > > > > > We can of course chat. Keep in mind that I'll provide - I call it > > "Guides" - for you. It's kind of a construction plan or blueprint > > (font size, colors, margins, paddings, etc). Maybe it's not really > > needed to chat before you code anything. My guides should clear a > > lot of your questions. Let me finish such a blueprint and you will > > let my know your thoughts :) > >   > Does that mean we have a "date" on Monday, 8th at 20:00 german local > time?  > telephone conference ? > > Alex > > > Best, > > > -Michael > > > > > Maurice > >   > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Maurice > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Daniel Weismüller > > > > > > @ipfire.org> wrote: > > > > > No. > > > > > > > > > > The last screenshot shows the customization part from "good > > > old" > > > > > configurationsite of the url-filter. > > > > > For better understanding i've made a  (3) screenshot(s) of > > > the > > > > > whole page. > > > > > > > > > > - Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 01.02.2016 um 14:32 schrieb Maurice Gesswein: > > > > > > Is that the place where the hoster can include his own > > > T&Cs, > > > > > > upload a company logo, add the company name, etc? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Daniel Weismüller > > > > > > > > ller(a)ipfire.org> wrote: > > > > > > > me again :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another screenshot now from the webif where you may > > > customize > > > > > > > blockpage from the url-filter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 01.02.2016 um 14:24 schrieb Maurice Gesswein: > > > > > > > > Perfect. Thanks Daniel. > > > > > > > > Am 01.02.2016 2:22 nachm. schrieb "Daniel Weismüller" > > > > > > > > > > .weismueller(a)ipfire.org>: > > > > > > > > > Here are the screenshots as requested. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 31.01.2016 um 08:53 schrieb Maurice Gesswein: > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > > > > > > > I use lorem ipsum than. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Am 31.01.2016 4:31 vorm. schrieb "Michael Tremer" > > > > > > > > > > > > l.tremer(a)ipfire.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2016-01-30 at 22:06 +0100, Maurice > > > Gesswein > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone send me the terms & condition text > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > the screenshots > > > > > > > > > > > > as real text? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a text area where the user will type in > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > T&Cs. So there is > > > > > > > > > > > no predefined text and it might change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you still want some sample or can you just use > > > lorem > > > > > > > > > > > ipsum? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Michael Tremer > > > > > > > > > > > > > ael.tremer(a)ipfir > > > > > > > > > > > > e.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2016-01-29 at 20:37 +0100, Alexander > > > Marx > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, in general I got it. Thanks for the > > > screens > > > > > > > > > > > Alex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few questions and suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To be prepared for further upcoming pages > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > these, are you > > > > > > > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to hand over a list of them (perhaps with > > > > > > > > > > > screenshots)? Not > > > > > > > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > needed, but very helpful to deliver a > > > > > > > > > > > consistent flexible > > > > > > > > > > > > > design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry about them too much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as i know there are no other > > > "external" > > > > > > > > > > > pages. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Webinterface of IPFire has an own design > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > several themes, i > > > > > > > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you already saw them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, there are a few. I included both of > > > them > > > > > > > > > > > in the first > > > > > > > > > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On top of that there are the squid error > > > pages. I > > > > > > > > > > > am not too sure > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we > > > > > > > > > > > > > can modify those quite nicely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will figure that out and get back to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should the hoster be able to include his > > > own > > > > > > > > > > > logo/brand? That > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give the users a lot more trust in that > > > things. > > > > > > > > > > > If an image > > > > > > > > > > > > > upload > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not in the current scope, I suggest a > > > > > > > > > > > prominent headline > > > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the hoster is able to include the company > > > name. > > > > > > > > > > > Do you agree? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually the hoster is able to change the > > > Title > > > > > > > > > > > (The top-title in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > screenies like "Login" or on the other page > > > "My > > > > > > > > > > > private HotSpot") > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe we can add a Logo but we have to > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > > which dimensions > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allowed. This is difficult as many > > > companies have > > > > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dimensions of Logos. Some are 4:3, others > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > like 27:9 and so > > > > > > > > > > > > > on.  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do other people think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we don't need that. We usually have > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > opportunity to > > > > > > > > > > > > > upload > > > > > > > > > > > > > an entire HTML template, so that if someone > > > wants > > > > > > > > > > > to replace the > > > > > > > > > > > > > page, > > > > > > > > > > > > > they can do that. But just a logo is a bit > > > too > > > > > > > > > > > easy. Who ever wants > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > brand this as their own should do that with > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > rest, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And of course we should not forget about > > > doing some > > > > > > > > > > > advertisement > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > our own product :) However, I get many emails > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > annoyed students > > > > > > > > > > > > > that can't access dirty websites in their > > > school. > > > > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since it's part of IPFire, should those > > > pages > > > > > > > > > > > be designed like > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new upcoming style of IPFire? Means same > > > color > > > > > > > > > > > theme, button > > > > > > > > > > > > > style, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IPFire logo, caption like "powered by > > > IPFire", > > > > > > > > > > > etc? Or should > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > totally generic so that the users has no > > > clue > > > > > > > > > > > what system shows > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those dialogs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like a "powered by IPFire" at least > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > even advise people > > > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > > replace the theme by their own to keep that > > > in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does not need to be like the new stuff > > > but I > > > > > > > > > > > think it should > > > > > > > > > > > > > feel > > > > > > > > > > > > > a bit like IPFire but also be neutral. We do > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > need to hide that > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > is an IPFire system though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No. I think if we have something like a > > > > > > > > > > > "background-color" > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a picture, we should the hoster let > > > configure it, > > > > > > > > > > > so the people > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able to adpat the colors to their own > > > corporate > > > > > > > > > > > identity. So if > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > woul like to work with gradients or > > > similar, i > > > > > > > > > > > would recommend to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make it configurable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nah, not too many options. We wanted to keep > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael, what do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See above :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:51 PM, > > > Alexander Marx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @oab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the actual ugly screenshots > > > from the > > > > > > > > > > > loginpage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one version with voucher access and the > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > one with > > > > > > > > > > > > > license > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 29.01.2016 um 02:59 schrieb Michael > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  Hi Maurice, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that you are busy with other > > > things, > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > nevertheless I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like to send you this request. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex is currently working on a so > > > called > > > > > > > > > > > captive portal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are these > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things that pop up on your phone or > > > laptop > > > > > > > > > > > when you connect > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wireless network in a hotel or cafe. > > > That > > > > > > > > > > > web page that is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shown is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what we need to design now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We also have a few other pages that > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > shown to the users > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > network when for example a web page > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > blocked. That page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really ugly and probably needs a > > > remake as > > > > > > > > > > > well. I want to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > focus on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > captive portal for now, but I guess > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > would like to know > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are more. [1] and [2]. Really bad > > > right? > > > > > > > > > > > They scare users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex will send you a screenshot of > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > development version > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is just a quick page to show the > > > > > > > > > > > concept and what we > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > roughly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are two options for now. The > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > one is where the > > > > > > > > > > > > > user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agree to a license and click a "I > > > accept" > > > > > > > > > > > button. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > second > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where the user will have to type in a > > > > > > > > > > > voucher code and > > > > > > > > > > > > > click a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > button > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to log in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you like to work on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, a quick mock-up would be okay > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > now, because we > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > put this entire project on the > > > wishlist to > > > > > > > > > > > raise some > > > > > > > > > > > > > crowd- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > funding > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > money. Giving the user that mock-up > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > certainly help so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get a good impression what they are > > > > > > > > > > > supporting here. The > > > > > > > > > > > > > actual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementation will happen a bit > > > later when > > > > > > > > > > > enough funds > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raised. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Alex, would you please send some > > > > > > > > > > > screenshots of the two > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so far? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. @Maurice, I know that I am > > > throwing a > > > > > > > > > > > bit of random > > > > > > > > > > > > > stuff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just let me know when I don't make > > > sense > > > > > > > > > > > any more :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9sw4wUe > > > UsgQ/V > > > > > > > > > > > fU-c33FMDI/AAAAA > > > > > > > > > > > > > AAAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > zM/bBnJN4oCffo/s640/31.png > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2] http://wiki.ipfire.org/_media/en/ > > > addons > > > > > > > > > > > /clamav/squidcla > > > > > > > > > > > > > mav- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > detection.png > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >