Hello guys,

just wanted to check in on you and see how things are going since it has gone a
little bit quiet here.

I am traveling over the next days again, but in case there is anything I can
help out with, please send me an email.

Best,
-Michael

On Wed, 2017-03-15 at 14:44 +0100, Sven wrote:
> Hey Maurice,
> no problem.
> I will do it with the variables: https://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid-less so we
> have complete control.
> 
> Greetings,
> Sven
> 
> 
> > On 15 Mar 2017, at 14:37, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hey Sven,
> > 
> > do you think we can do a tiny customization at Bootstrap 4's column grid
> > system? Just 24px gutter width instead of 30px? I found a short guide for
> > that. Seems pretty easy.
> > 
> > http://arnique.net/web-design/58/a-quick-guide-to-changing-bootstraps-gutter
> > -width/
> > 
> > From my point of view it looks like you just need to change this:
> > 
> > > .col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} {
> > >   padding-right: 15px;
> > >   padding-left: 15px;
> > > }
> > > .row {
> > >   margin-right: -15px;
> > >   margin-left: -15px;
> > > }  
> >  
> > to this:
> > 
> > > .col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} {
> > >   padding-right: 12px;
> > >   padding-left: 12px;
> > > }
> > > .row {
> > >   margin-right: -12px;
> > >   margin-left: -12px;
> > > }
> > 
> > That would help me to follow consistent UI metrics.
> > 
> > Best, Maurice
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> > wrote:
> > > It would be nice to keep the conversation in English since there are
> > > people
> > > reading our mailing lists who don't speak German.
> > > 
> > > I know it might be a little bit complicated in the beginning but I am sure
> > > we
> > > will all get used to it :)
> > > 
> > > -Michael
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 15:10 +0100, Sven wrote:
> > > > Hallo Maurice,
> > > > ich antworte einfach mal in Deutsch. Englisch kann ich gut lesen und
> > > verstehen
> > > > aber schreibe es nicht so gern.
> > > >
> > > > Im Moment baut die Seite ja auf Bootstrap auf, wird das nicht
> > > überflüssig wenn
> > > > du sowohl Grid als auch Pattern Library aufbaust?
> > > > In wie weit wir die Pattern Library über alle Projekte teilen sollten
> > > wir
> > > > sehen wenn die Webseite steht, da die im Moment Priorität hat.
> > > >
> > > > Freu mich auf die Zusammenarbeit.
> > > >
> > > > Grüße,
> > > > Sven
> > > >
> > > > > On 14 Mar 2017, at 14:25, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung(a)gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't worry about the delay :)
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I can remember I didn't created responsive versions of the
> > > IPFire
> > > > > Website. It makes sense that these are at least almost done before
> > > Sven
> > > > > starts with coding. I don't want that Sven has to guess the font
> > > sizes,
> > > > > paddings, margins, line-height and so on. That's not his job :) So
> > > please
> > > > > stay tuned for a proper handover. I'm sure that will help Sven a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > > @Sven
> > > > > Hey Sven, nice to meet you :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I just want to give some information beforehand. You may already know
> > > that
> > > > > but I just want to get sure that we are both on the same level.
> > > > >
> > > > > My designs and layouts are based on a 8x8px grid (4x4px fallback) and
> > > are
> > > > > Atomic Design driven. Touch Targets are at least 48x48px. In some edge
> > > cases
> > > > > there might be less. Means that you will never see a "margin: 50px"
> > > because
> > > > > 50 is not dividable by 8 or 4. I would very appreciate if you could
> > > consider
> > > > > that within your code. That method provides a great support to follow
> > > a
> > > > > consistent line. I'm pretty sure that I'll provide all designs via
> > > > > zeplin.io. From that tool you will get (almost) every information you
> > > need.
> > > > > Margins, paddings, colors, font size, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I'm a big fan of Pattern Libraries. At least when it comes to the
> > > > > IPFire WUI there will be a lot of pattern usage to save time on your
> > > side.
> > > > >
> > > > > My strong guess is that it would make sense to have different Pattern
> > > > > Libraries for the Website/FireInfo and WUI. But that is totally up to
> > > you
> > > > > how to deal with that :) I think you already saw the first designs for
> > > the
> > > > > WUI?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope that doesn't sound like an arrogant Designer. Believe me that one
> > > of my
> > > > > most important goals is to make the DEVs life as comfortable as
> > > possible by
> > > > > providing well prepared handovers. My experience with that is that we
> > > will
> > > > > get a great output and a professional looking UI/Website.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best, M
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire
> > > .org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hello Maurice,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thank you for getting back in touch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:58 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Sven and rest of the gang,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I nearly thought that the project has died. I'm glad to see that
> > > this is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > the case. Since it's very long time ago I have to check the old
> > > PSD
> > > > > > files
> > > > > > > within the next days and make sure that you get a good handover.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can only apologise that everything took so long. I would have
> > > liked to
> > > > > > see
> > > > > > this realised quicker but time just didn't allow me to work on it.
> > > Luckily
> > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > is now on board to help out and together we will get this done now!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Perhaps I'll handover the designs via zeplin.io. I've made very
> > > good
> > > > > > > experience with that tool during last year. Please give me some
> > > days for
> > > > > > > preparing since I'm very busy right now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So where have we stopped? As far as I can see the designs for the
> > > index
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > features page are done. Is there anything I forgot?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think what Sven mainly needs is the background images that you
> > > used and
> > > > > > so on.
> > > > > > I am quite sure this doesn't need to be PSD in particular.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If required we can have a conference call with everyone, but I am
> > > not sure
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > there are any big questions that we cannot discuss on the list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks and best regards,
> > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)i
> > > pfire.
> > > > > > org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > to send emails to the list, you just need to email to
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >   ipfire-artwork(a)lists.ipfire.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I copied Maurice to your request and we will wait until he
> > > replies.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 19:51 +0100, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi Maurice,
> > > > > > > > > can you please send me the PSD files from the new layout
> > > (Homepage
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > Featurepage)?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
>