[IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello,

I put together some ideas for the donation page. We have the problem that we
basically get no donations any more outside of the wishlist and even those are
frankly way too low. The don't even cover our cost.

And since we a providing a good product here which saves people a lot of money
we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of course it is still free for
everyone to donate or not, but some people need to be reminded that this
possibility exists.

So we will now add some new features: We will allow donations via credit card
and standing order to make this really hassle-free and we will allow recurring
donations because some people prefer to give a small amount each month instead
of a big amount once a year.

We will also remove the variety of currencies and just use EUR & USD and suggest
depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will be default for the US and
Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage people to use EUR when ever
possible since we pay less fees.

Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct debit which support recurring
donations. We don't support that with PayPal at the moment, but I think I will
need to implement their API.

I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That seems to be common practice. We
should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom option where people can enter what
ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD). If a recurring donation is
picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount on those buttons.

We have to get the full name and address of the person who donates for tax
reasons and secondly to get the payments through because the credit card
companies validate those against their own database.

We will also collect the email address to get in touch with people.

So in the end the process will look like this:

1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an amount by clicking on a button
and selects the payment type. Click something like "Donate Now".
2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address.
3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit card stuff, etc.
4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you page

This is probably a good example and done quite similar:
  https://donate.mozilla.org/

I have also written a few new texts that probably need a little bit of
refinement, but should be a good start:


Why should I donate?

We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire. We create a free firewall
distribution that is free to use for everyone anywhere in the world. To do that,
we need to provide the infrastructure to distribute it to our users and provide
the right tools for our developers to help them to make IPFire better every day.

Donations from individuals and corporations are the only way to keep all of our
services free for everyone. They pay for hosting, advertising, purchase
equipment and to fund the work of the people behind it.

Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by large corporations and
proprietary solutions and we cannot do that without you. Become a supporter
today!


How much should I give?

Donations range from single digits donations to hundreds. For us it is important
to give something back to help this project to succeed. If you want to help,
please do so and encourage others to do so, too.


Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if people have some difficulties
to donate or commonly asked questions.

There should also be some area for the smallprint since we need to tell people
who they are donating to and that we don't do any refunds, etc.

@Maurice: Could you design a page like this?

@Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the JS and all other frontend bits?
I would develop the backend and the interfaces with the payment providers.

Best,
-Michael

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Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello,

cool. I had a look at it. It looks nice, although I have never been missing any
of this functionality :)

It has a lot of extra dependencies and seems to be quite large. So I will set up
a another web server for this which takes a little bit of time.

If you have an free time already, please feel free to send anything by email so
that we don't get stalled on this.

Best,
-Michael

On Sat, 2018-07-21 at 13:59 +0200, Sven wrote:
> Wekan is open source and you can install it on your own server: 
> https://wekan.github.io
> And think that is easy to use, and you have full control over the data.
> 
> > On 21. Jul 2018, at 13:27, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 22:29 +0200, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > Thanks for clarification and good to hear that it was expected that things
> > > will break.
> > 
> > That wasn't deliberate, but expected at least.
> > 
> > I also tried to move somethings to other places so that we can re-use them
> > easier (i.e. the background image is used in the blog and so on and I wanted
> > to
> > have the code only once). But it looks like I fucked that one up :)
> > 
> > > Yes, I can of course write down every broken thing. As I asked some weeks
> > > ago,
> > > but didn't get an answer - can we please use something more modern
> > > and convenient as Bugzilla? I used Bugzilla a lot in the past and it's a
> > > mighty tool without question. But nowadays there are better free tools out
> > > there for our usecase. I suggested Trello and Wekan. Sven used Wekan in
> > > some
> > > projects and had a good experience.
> > 
> > I have never used anything else but Bugzilla. It works well for me.
> > 
> > Since I do not know any of the other systems I would say that you make the
> > pick.
> > Not sure what quantity of tickets we are expecting we could also just send
> > emails.
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > > What do you think?
> > > 
> > > Best, Maurice
> > > 
> > > PS: I'm on vacation now for the next 2 weeks.
> > 
> > Aww that is bad timing :) I hope you have a relaxing holiday and hope to see
> > you
> > back here as soon as you are back?!
> > 
> > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 6:24 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 21:39 +0200, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > Looks like you did a lot of cleaning tasks, Michael :) I really like
> > > > > to
> > > > throw
> > > > > away stuff and pages which are very similar to each other or not
> > > > > really
> > > > used
> > > > > or helpful.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, loads of the content needs to be rewritten. On the donation page we
> > > > mainly
> > > > have dummy texts which have to be written for the first time.
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to decide on the final wording when we have finished the
> > > > design,
> > > > but until then, please feel free to make suggestions or draw a few
> > > > sketches
> > > > :)
> > > > 
> > > > > > * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4
> > > > > > alpha
> > > > 6
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > 4.2.1)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Am I the only one who see A LOT of broken things cause of that - I
> > > > > guess -
> > > > > version upgrade? How should this be handled now? Or is the upgrade
> > > > > still
> > > > in
> > > > > progress?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, this is still work in progress. A lot of stuff has changed because
> > > > of
> > > > Bootstrap changing a lot since the alpha release.
> > > > 
> > > > Other things have changed, because I put them into the variables which
> > > > allows us
> > > > to write a lot less CSS. However, I mainly concentrated on migrating
> > > > everything
> > > > and paid less attention to the mobile viewports for example.
> > > > 
> > > > Can we collect a list somewhere about what is incorrect? Starting with
> > > > the
> > > > most
> > > > major things? I guess the index & features page is best and then move on
> > > > to
> > > > the
> > > > rest.
> > > > 
> > > > Would you like to create tickets on Bugzilla and assign them to me?
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:10 PM Michael Tremer <
> > > > > michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Don't worry, I will keep you in the loop for now and there will
> > > > > > still be
> > > > > > plenty
> > > > > > to do after version one is being rolled out.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I will write an email shortly about the blog and that I cut corners
> > > > > > :)
> > > > That
> > > > > > needs to be sorted eventually and I am happy to get some help with
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 13:08 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > Great news.
> > > > > > > I am really sorry that at the moment I can’t help, I really like
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > project
> > > > > > > and I hope that in the near future I will have some time to help
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On 18. Jul 2018, at 13:02, Michael Tremer <
> > > > > > > > michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello *,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > for the time being, I am taking over from Sven who is caught up
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > work
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > really need to move forward rolling out the website as soon as
> > > > possible
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > So I will keep you posted with a few updates that I am making. I
> > > > > > > > am
> > > > also
> > > > > > > > doing
> > > > > > > > some backend works and this is a short summary of what I did
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > week:
> > > > > > > > * I removed the planet & news pages
> > > > > > > > * I added a new backend for the blog and merged all news and
> > > > > > > > planet posts together
> > > > > > > > * I added a nice full-text search :)
> > > > > > > > * I cleaned up some of the backend code and this will continue
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On the frontend side:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from
> > > > > > > > 4
> > > > alpha
> > > > > > 6
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > 4.2.1)
> > > > > > > > * I moved a lot of the CSS into variables and it is now
> > > > > > > > dynamically
> > > > > > compiled
> > > > > > > > from SASS to CSS when ever something is changed.
> > > > > > > > * I removed loads of old pages that we no longer need as well as
> > > > images
> > > > > > (so
> > > > > > > > loads and loads of house-keeping)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > * I implemented the blog
> > > > > > > > For this I have loads of questions, requests and ideas for
> > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > which I will put into a separate email
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > * I implemented the form to the donation page
> > > > > > > > I did that in a slightly different way because the popup won't
> > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > we will already have a popup that encourages people to make
> > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > a recurring one - please see that as a proposal. I will also
> > > > > > > > send
> > > > an
> > > > > > extra
> > > > > > > > email about the donation page
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > * I also tried to rework pages like the legal page. I guess I
> > > > > > > > failed
> > > > > > > > terribly on
> > > > > > > > that one design-wise. So we will have to talk what we can do
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > the
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > At the moment the site isn't online. I am installing a new web
> > > > server
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > host it for now and soon will be running the production version
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > it. I
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > let you know when that is online.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 12:21 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I just wanted to make a request about the donation page.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Can we have a field where people can enter a comment? Some
> > > > > > > > > people
> > > > just
> > > > > > > > > write
> > > > > > > > > "Thank you" and some other write what features they would like
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > see
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > future and this is usually a good way to communicate that.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > It could potentially go under the address input. It doesn't
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > to be
> > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > big.
> > > > > > > > > Only two lines or so.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Ah cool, just found it (again :D).
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I guess you might want to remove the <form> tag that I added
> > > > again,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > suppose the functionality is clear through this.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > We have a layout for the address-stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <
> > > > > > > > > > > > michael.tremer(a)ip
> > > > fire
> > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello guys,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff
> > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > > > contract
> > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I
> > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > like
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > accept donations through this as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I
> > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > rough
> > > > > > > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > > > > > running that sends out the right emails with SEPA
> > > > > > > > > > > > mandates
> > > > in
> > > > > > PDF
> > > > > > > > > > > > forms
> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > on...
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I
> > > > implemented
> > > > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > we need so far:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c36
> > > > 1abc
> > > > > > 1a73
> > > > > > > > > > > > d9c
> > > > > > > > > > > > 7b
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3f
> > > > > > > > > > > > f8d
> > > > > > > > > > > > 82da5e769e7378a128
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a
> > > > <form>
> > > > > > tag
> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > indented
> > > > > > > > > > > > every line in the block by one tab.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks
> > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > > > > > button,
> > > > > > > > > > > > we will send a request to my accounting software with
> > > > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > details
> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > > > redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly
> > > > > > > > > > > > easy. So
> > > > far
> > > > > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > > > > > come back.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the
> > > > name,
> > > > > > > > > > > > address
> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs
> > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > part of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > donation form. Is that correct Maurice?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your
> > > > > > development
> > > > > > > > > > > > machine?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a
> > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hosted in a different data centre and connecting back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > main
> > > > > > > > > > > > > database
> > > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > loses
> > > > > > > > > > > > > connectivity
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > database and from then on there are those issues.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > I
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > restart
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > reachable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 500
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > you
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > permanently Michael? :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer
> > > > <michael.trem
> > > > > > er(a)i
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > pfir
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > g>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implemented:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ;
> > > > h=e4
> > > > > > 00e3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7d7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > af
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 60
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ebc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > other
> > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dials.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you
> > > > won't
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > did, so please feel free to change.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remind
> > > > me
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > site
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nagivation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue was about again?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > already
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > closed:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > id=1
> > > > > > 1314
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > entry in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bugzilla
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flickering.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without
> > > > design
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maurice.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gesswein
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswei
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > n(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something
> > > > like
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rude
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major
> > > > > > available
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bugs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flickering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and
> > > > overlapping
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be
> > > > fixed in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > minor
> > > > bugs
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > text
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > formation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > next
> > > > > > 2-3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi.,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25.
> > > > Apr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16:58:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time
> > > > the
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the
> > > > backend.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to
> > > > Blog
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > move
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > top
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navigation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael
> > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.treme
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > r(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few
> > > > days
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can
> > > > make
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > progress?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we
> > > > still
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > systems
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random
> > > > country
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (potentially
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > percentages
> > > > are
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toooo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > small,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > systems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switzerland
> > > > > > (5%)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting
> > > > statistic
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CPU
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > ways...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > few
> > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > ;a=c
> > > > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Plus
> > > > > > page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > > > ;a=c
> > > > > > ommi
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > > > ;a=c
> > > > > > ommi
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > > > ;a=c
> > > > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e52b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b601
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f908
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > not
> > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wise
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage
> > > > people
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interesting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > security-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > related
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > German
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > improve
> > > > some
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > texts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well.
> > > > Nobody
> > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > care
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > localized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > English
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your
> > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please
> > > > > > continue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and
> > > > pushing to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > usual.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100,
> > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > excited
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > left
> > > > on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > todo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100,
> > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > anywhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > near
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 250
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +0200,
> > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be
> > > > great
> > > > > > :-D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > schrieb
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum
> > > > turnover
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month
> 
> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 22:29 +0200, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> Thanks for clarification and good to hear that it was expected that things
> will break.

That wasn't deliberate, but expected at least.

I also tried to move somethings to other places so that we can re-use them
easier (i.e. the background image is used in the blog and so on and I wanted to
have the code only once). But it looks like I fucked that one up :)

> Yes, I can of course write down every broken thing. As I asked some weeks ago,
> but didn't get an answer - can we please use something more modern
> and convenient as Bugzilla? I used Bugzilla a lot in the past and it's a
> mighty tool without question. But nowadays there are better free tools out
> there for our usecase. I suggested Trello and Wekan. Sven used Wekan in some
> projects and had a good experience.

I have never used anything else but Bugzilla. It works well for me.

Since I do not know any of the other systems I would say that you make the pick.
Not sure what quantity of tickets we are expecting we could also just send
emails.

Best,
-Michael

> What do you think?
> 
> Best, Maurice
> 
> PS: I'm on vacation now for the next 2 weeks.

Aww that is bad timing :) I hope you have a relaxing holiday and hope to see you
back here as soon as you are back?!

> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 6:24 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 21:39 +0200, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > Looks like you did a lot of cleaning tasks, Michael :) I really like to
> > throw
> > > away stuff and pages which are very similar to each other or not really
> > used
> > > or helpful.
> > 
> > Yes, loads of the content needs to be rewritten. On the donation page we
> > mainly
> > have dummy texts which have to be written for the first time.
> > 
> > I would like to decide on the final wording when we have finished the
> > design,
> > but until then, please feel free to make suggestions or draw a few sketches
> > :)
> > 
> > > 
> > > > * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 alpha
> > 6
> > > > to
> > > > 4.2.1)
> > > 
> > > Am I the only one who see A LOT of broken things cause of that - I guess -
> > > version upgrade? How should this be handled now? Or is the upgrade still
> > in
> > > progress?
> > 
> > Yes, this is still work in progress. A lot of stuff has changed because of
> > Bootstrap changing a lot since the alpha release.
> > 
> > Other things have changed, because I put them into the variables which
> > allows us
> > to write a lot less CSS. However, I mainly concentrated on migrating
> > everything
> > and paid less attention to the mobile viewports for example.
> > 
> > Can we collect a list somewhere about what is incorrect? Starting with the
> > most
> > major things? I guess the index & features page is best and then move on to
> > the
> > rest.
> > 
> > Would you like to create tickets on Bugzilla and assign them to me?
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:10 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Don't worry, I will keep you in the loop for now and there will still be
> > > > plenty
> > > > to do after version one is being rolled out.
> > > > 
> > > > I will write an email shortly about the blog and that I cut corners :)
> > That
> > > > needs to be sorted eventually and I am happy to get some help with that.
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 13:08 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > Great news.
> > > > > I am really sorry that at the moment I can’t help, I really like the
> > > > project
> > > > > and I hope that in the near future I will have some time to help you
> > > > again.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > Sven
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On 18. Jul 2018, at 13:02, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hello *,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > for the time being, I am taking over from Sven who is caught up in
> > work
> > > > and
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > really need to move forward rolling out the website as soon as
> > possible
> > > > now.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So I will keep you posted with a few updates that I am making. I am
> > also
> > > > > > doing
> > > > > > some backend works and this is a short summary of what I did this
> > week:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * I removed the planet & news pages
> > > > > > * I added a new backend for the blog and merged all news and
> > > > > >  planet posts together
> > > > > > * I added a nice full-text search :)
> > > > > > * I cleaned up some of the backend code and this will continue
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On the frontend side:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4
> > alpha
> > > > 6
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > 4.2.1)
> > > > > > * I moved a lot of the CSS into variables and it is now dynamically
> > > > compiled
> > > > > > from SASS to CSS when ever something is changed.
> > > > > > * I removed loads of old pages that we no longer need as well as
> > images
> > > > (so
> > > > > > loads and loads of house-keeping)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * I implemented the blog
> > > > > >  For this I have loads of questions, requests and ideas for
> > improvements
> > > > > >  which I will put into a separate email
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * I implemented the form to the donation page
> > > > > >  I did that in a slightly different way because the popup won't work
> > > > since
> > > > > >  we will already have a popup that encourages people to make their
> > > > donation
> > > > > >  a recurring one - please see that as a proposal. I will also send
> > an
> > > > extra
> > > > > >  email about the donation page
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * I also tried to rework pages like the legal page. I guess I failed
> > > > > > terribly on
> > > > > > that one design-wise. So we will have to talk what we can do about
> > the
> > > > other
> > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > At the moment the site isn't online. I am installing a new web
> > server
> > > > that
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > host it for now and soon will be running the production version of
> > it. I
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > let you know when that is online.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 12:21 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I just wanted to make a request about the donation page.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Can we have a field where people can enter a comment? Some people
> > just
> > > > > > > write
> > > > > > > "Thank you" and some other write what features they would like to
> > see
> > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > future and this is usually a good way to communicate that.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It could potentially go under the address input. It doesn't have
> > to be
> > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > big.
> > > > > > > Only two lines or so.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ah cool, just found it (again :D).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I guess you might want to remove the <form> tag that I added
> > again,
> > > > but
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > suppose the functionality is clear through this.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > We have a layout for the address-stuff.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ip
> > fire
> > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hello guys,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff
> > since
> > > > > > > > > > contract
> > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would
> > like
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > accept donations through this as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I
> > have a
> > > > > > > > > > rough
> > > > > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > > > running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates
> > in
> > > > PDF
> > > > > > > > > > forms
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > on...
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I
> > implemented
> > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > we need so far:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c36
> > 1abc
> > > > 1a73
> > > > > > > > > > d9c
> > > > > > > > > > 7b
> > > > > > > > > > 3f
> > > > > > > > > > f8d
> > > > > > > > > > 82da5e769e7378a128
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a
> > <form>
> > > > tag
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > indented
> > > > > > > > > > every line in the block by one tab.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > > > button,
> > > > > > > > > > we will send a request to my accounting software with all
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > details
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So
> > far
> > > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > > > come back.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the
> > name,
> > > > > > > > > > address
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for
> > that
> > > > > > > > > > part of
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > donation form. Is that correct Maurice?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your
> > > > development
> > > > > > > > > > machine?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a
> > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to
> > the
> > > > main
> > > > > > > > > > > database
> > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses
> > > > > > > > > > > connectivity
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > database and from then on there are those issues.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > restart
> > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not
> > > > reachable
> > > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > shows
> > > > > > > > > > > > 500
> > > > > > > > > > > > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that
> > you
> > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > permanently Michael? :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer
> > <michael.trem
> > > > er(a)i
> > > > > > > > > > > > pfir
> > > > > > > > > > > > e.
> > > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > g>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being
> > > > > > > > > > > > > implemented:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
> > h=e4
> > > > 00e3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 7d7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > af
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 60
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ebc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the
> > other
> > > > two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > dials.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you
> > won't
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > did, so please feel free to change.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind
> > me
> > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > site
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > nagivation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue was about again?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are
> > > > already
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > closed:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?
> > id=1
> > > > 1314
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no
> > > > entry in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bugzilla
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flickering.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without
> > design
> > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > part,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maurice.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswei
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > n(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something
> > like
> > > > that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rude
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major
> > > > available
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bugs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > flickering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and
> > overlapping
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be
> > fixed in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor
> > bugs
> > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the
> > text
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > formation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the
> > next
> > > > 2-3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25.
> > Apr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16:58:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time
> > the
> > > > next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the
> > backend.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to
> > Blog
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > move
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > top
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navigation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael
> > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.treme
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > r(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few
> > days
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can
> > make
> > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > progress?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we
> > still
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > things:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems
> > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random
> > country
> > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (potentially
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages
> > are
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toooo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > small,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > systems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > running
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland
> > > > (5%)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting
> > statistic
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > CPU
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any
> > > > ways...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like
> > > > last
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael
> > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few
> > > > changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code
> > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6d
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9605
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6a69
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c0351c2fac2676ef
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9876
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8e
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1189
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7744
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c0c8
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c9b688057b294ec1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9540
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3e7b71
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 616f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a49b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 54
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 47367d2bb16945ee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6c
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1576
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6cfb894931b43e65
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14cd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4f
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3c48
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 46561d50421d97f6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a8
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 92f7
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 68bccd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ef23
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus
> > > > page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 962f
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > e989
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7085
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 35f3b1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 60e3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 41c3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b0792c
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0fe1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
> > ;a=c
> > > > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e52b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > b601
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do
> > not
> > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wise
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage
> > people
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interesting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away from
> > > > security-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > related
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve
> > some
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > texts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well.
> > Nobody
> > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > care
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > localized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only
> > > > English
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your
> > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please
> > > > continue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and
> > pushing to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > usual.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in
> > the
> > > > old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100,
> > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am
> > > > excited
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > todo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100,
> > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even
> > > > anywhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > near
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 250
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200,
> > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be
> > great
> > > > :-D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb
> > > > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum
> > turnover
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month
> > > > > 
> > > > > 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello,

On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 21:39 +0200, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> Looks like you did a lot of cleaning tasks, Michael :) I really like to throw
> away stuff and pages which are very similar to each other or not really used
> or helpful.

Yes, loads of the content needs to be rewritten. On the donation page we mainly
have dummy texts which have to be written for the first time.

I would like to decide on the final wording when we have finished the design,
but until then, please feel free to make suggestions or draw a few sketches :)

> 
> > * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 alpha 6
> > to
> > 4.2.1)
> 
> Am I the only one who see A LOT of broken things cause of that - I guess -
> version upgrade? How should this be handled now? Or is the upgrade still in
> progress?

Yes, this is still work in progress. A lot of stuff has changed because of
Bootstrap changing a lot since the alpha release.

Other things have changed, because I put them into the variables which allows us
to write a lot less CSS. However, I mainly concentrated on migrating everything
and paid less attention to the mobile viewports for example.

Can we collect a list somewhere about what is incorrect? Starting with the most
major things? I guess the index & features page is best and then move on to the
rest.

Would you like to create tickets on Bugzilla and assign them to me?

Best,
-Michael

> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:10 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> wrote:
> > Don't worry, I will keep you in the loop for now and there will still be
> > plenty
> > to do after version one is being rolled out.
> > 
> > I will write an email shortly about the blog and that I cut corners :) That
> > needs to be sorted eventually and I am happy to get some help with that.
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 13:08 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > Great news.
> > > I am really sorry that at the moment I can’t help, I really like the
> > project
> > > and I hope that in the near future I will have some time to help you
> > again.
> > > 
> > > Greetings,
> > > Sven
> > > 
> > > > On 18. Jul 2018, at 13:02, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hello *,
> > > > 
> > > > for the time being, I am taking over from Sven who is caught up in work
> > and
> > > > I
> > > > really need to move forward rolling out the website as soon as possible
> > now.
> > > > 
> > > > So I will keep you posted with a few updates that I am making. I am also
> > > > doing
> > > > some backend works and this is a short summary of what I did this week:
> > > > 
> > > > * I removed the planet & news pages
> > > > * I added a new backend for the blog and merged all news and
> > > >  planet posts together
> > > > * I added a nice full-text search :)
> > > > * I cleaned up some of the backend code and this will continue
> > > > 
> > > > On the frontend side:
> > > > 
> > > > * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 alpha
> > 6
> > > > to
> > > > 4.2.1)
> > > > * I moved a lot of the CSS into variables and it is now dynamically
> > compiled
> > > > from SASS to CSS when ever something is changed.
> > > > * I removed loads of old pages that we no longer need as well as images
> > (so
> > > > loads and loads of house-keeping)
> > > > 
> > > > * I implemented the blog
> > > >  For this I have loads of questions, requests and ideas for improvements
> > > >  which I will put into a separate email
> > > > 
> > > > * I implemented the form to the donation page
> > > >  I did that in a slightly different way because the popup won't work
> > since
> > > >  we will already have a popup that encourages people to make their
> > donation
> > > >  a recurring one - please see that as a proposal. I will also send an
> > extra
> > > >  email about the donation page
> > > > 
> > > > * I also tried to rework pages like the legal page. I guess I failed
> > > > terribly on
> > > > that one design-wise. So we will have to talk what we can do about the
> > other
> > > > pages.
> > > > 
> > > > At the moment the site isn't online. I am installing a new web server
> > that
> > > > will
> > > > host it for now and soon will be running the production version of it. I
> > > > will
> > > > let you know when that is online.
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 12:21 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I just wanted to make a request about the donation page.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can we have a field where people can enter a comment? Some people just
> > > > > write
> > > > > "Thank you" and some other write what features they would like to see
> > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > future and this is usually a good way to communicate that.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It could potentially go under the address input. It doesn't have to be
> > > > > very
> > > > > big.
> > > > > Only two lines or so.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > -Michael
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > Ah cool, just found it (again :D).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I guess you might want to remove the <form> tag that I added again,
> > but
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > suppose the functionality is clear through this.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > We have a layout for the address-stuff.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire
> > .org
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hello guys,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff since
> > > > > > > > contract
> > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would like
> > to
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > accept donations through this as soon as possible.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I have a
> > > > > > > > rough
> > > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates in
> > PDF
> > > > > > > > forms
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > on...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I implemented
> > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > we need so far:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c361abc
> > 1a73
> > > > > > > > d9c
> > > > > > > > 7b
> > > > > > > > 3f
> > > > > > > > f8d
> > > > > > > > 82da5e769e7378a128
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a <form>
> > tag
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > indented
> > > > > > > > every line in the block by one tab.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on the
> > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > button,
> > > > > > > > we will send a request to my accounting software with all the
> > > > > > > > details
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So far
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > come back.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the name,
> > > > > > > > address
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for that
> > > > > > > > part of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > donation form. Is that correct Maurice?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your
> > development
> > > > > > > > machine?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a problem
> > > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the
> > main
> > > > > > > > > database
> > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses
> > > > > > > > > connectivity
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > database and from then on there are those issues.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I
> > can
> > > > > > > > > restart
> > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not
> > reachable
> > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > shows
> > > > > > > > > > 500
> > > > > > > > > > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you
> > could
> > > > > > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > permanently Michael? :)
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer <michael.trem
> > er(a)i
> > > > > > > > > > pfir
> > > > > > > > > > e.
> > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > g>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being
> > > > > > > > > > > implemented:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4
> > 00e3
> > > > > > > > > > > 7d7
> > > > > > > > > > > af
> > > > > > > > > > > 60
> > > > > > > > > > > ebc
> > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > > > > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other
> > two
> > > > > > > > > > > dials.
> > > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't
> > be
> > > > > > > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > did, so please feel free to change.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me
> > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > site
> > > > > > > > > > > > nagivation
> > > > > > > > > > > > issue was about again?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are
> > already
> > > > > > > > > > > > closed:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=1
> > 1314
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no
> > entry in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > bugzilla
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > flickering.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without design
> > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > part,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maurice.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswei
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > n(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like
> > that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rude
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major
> > available
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bugs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > flickering
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > text in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > end?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs
> > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > formation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Think
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next
> > 2-3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16:58:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the
> > next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog
> > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > move
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > top
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navigation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.treme
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > r(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few days
> > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can make
> > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > progress?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still
> > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > things:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country
> > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (potentially
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are
> > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toooo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > small,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > systems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > running
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland
> > (5%)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic
> > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > CPU
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any
> > ways...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like
> > last
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael
> > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few
> > changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f251
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6d
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > b73f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9605
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7891fb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6a69
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c0351c2fac2676ef
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9876
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8e
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 99ed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1189
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c8cacc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7744
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1633
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > f570
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1f04
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > d97fec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c0c8
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > c9b688057b294ec1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22e0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13
> > > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5d1f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8cd8fd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9540
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 195d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8e
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > ea71
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 97e8
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3e7b71
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 616f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a49b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 54
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 22cd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 97e0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f64fa9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dc7b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 47367d2bb16945ee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3e7c
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6c
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > cdef
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6e5b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 63f9b0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1576
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6cfb894931b43e65
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14cd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4f
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > a8c6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b404
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1ba0dd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3c48
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 46561d50421d97f6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ba43
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a8
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 92f7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3a6b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 68bccd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ef23
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus
> > page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 962f
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> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > e989
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7085
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 35f3b1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 60e3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7c06
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > e897
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 41c3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b0792c
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0fe1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
> > ommi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e52b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > b601
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f908
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not
> > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > wise
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage people
> > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interesting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away from
> > security-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > related
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve some
> > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > texts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well. Nobody
> > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > care
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > localized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only
> > English
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please
> > continue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and pushing to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > usual.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the
> > old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am
> > excited
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left on
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > todo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even
> > anywhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > near
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 250
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great
> > :-D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb
> > Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover
> > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month
> > > 
> > > 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Don't worry, I will keep you in the loop for now and there will still be plenty
to do after version one is being rolled out.

I will write an email shortly about the blog and that I cut corners :) That
needs to be sorted eventually and I am happy to get some help with that.

Best,
-Michael

On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 13:08 +0200, Sven wrote:
> Great news.
> I am really sorry that at the moment I can’t help, I really like the project
> and I hope that in the near future I will have some time to help you again.
> 
> Greetings,
> Sven
> 
> > On 18. Jul 2018, at 13:02, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello *,
> > 
> > for the time being, I am taking over from Sven who is caught up in work and
> > I
> > really need to move forward rolling out the website as soon as possible now.
> > 
> > So I will keep you posted with a few updates that I am making. I am also
> > doing
> > some backend works and this is a short summary of what I did this week:
> > 
> > * I removed the planet & news pages
> > * I added a new backend for the blog and merged all news and
> >  planet posts together
> > * I added a nice full-text search :)
> > * I cleaned up some of the backend code and this will continue
> > 
> > On the frontend side:
> > 
> > * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 alpha 6
> > to
> > 4.2.1)
> > * I moved a lot of the CSS into variables and it is now dynamically compiled
> > from SASS to CSS when ever something is changed.
> > * I removed loads of old pages that we no longer need as well as images (so
> > loads and loads of house-keeping)
> > 
> > * I implemented the blog
> >  For this I have loads of questions, requests and ideas for improvements
> >  which I will put into a separate email
> > 
> > * I implemented the form to the donation page
> >  I did that in a slightly different way because the popup won't work since
> >  we will already have a popup that encourages people to make their donation
> >  a recurring one - please see that as a proposal. I will also send an extra
> >  email about the donation page
> > 
> > * I also tried to rework pages like the legal page. I guess I failed
> > terribly on
> > that one design-wise. So we will have to talk what we can do about the other
> > pages.
> > 
> > At the moment the site isn't online. I am installing a new web server that
> > will
> > host it for now and soon will be running the production version of it. I
> > will
> > let you know when that is online.
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 12:21 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I just wanted to make a request about the donation page.
> > > 
> > > Can we have a field where people can enter a comment? Some people just
> > > write
> > > "Thank you" and some other write what features they would like to see in
> > > the
> > > future and this is usually a good way to communicate that.
> > > 
> > > It could potentially go under the address input. It doesn't have to be
> > > very
> > > big.
> > > Only two lines or so.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > -Michael
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > Ah cool, just found it (again :D).
> > > > 
> > > > Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet?
> > > > 
> > > > I guess you might want to remove the <form> tag that I added again, but
> > > > I
> > > > suppose the functionality is clear through this.
> > > > 
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > We have a layout for the address-stuff.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hello guys,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff since
> > > > > > contract
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would like to
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > able
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > accept donations through this as soon as possible.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I have a
> > > > > > rough
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates in PDF
> > > > > > forms
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > on...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I implemented
> > > > > > everything
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > we need so far:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c361abc1a73
> > > > > > d9c
> > > > > > 7b
> > > > > > 3f
> > > > > > f8d
> > > > > > 82da5e769e7378a128
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a <form> tag
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > indented
> > > > > > every line in the block by one tab.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on the
> > > > > > donate
> > > > > > button,
> > > > > > we will send a request to my accounting software with all the
> > > > > > details
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So far
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > never
> > > > > > come back.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the name,
> > > > > > address
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for that
> > > > > > part of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > donation form. Is that correct Maurice?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your development
> > > > > > machine?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a problem
> > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the main
> > > > > > > database
> > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses
> > > > > > > connectivity
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > database and from then on there are those issues.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I can
> > > > > > > restart
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not reachable
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > shows
> > > > > > > > 500
> > > > > > > > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you could
> > > > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > permanently Michael? :)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)i
> > > > > > > > pfir
> > > > > > > > e.
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > g>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being
> > > > > > > > > implemented:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e400e3
> > > > > > > > > 7d7
> > > > > > > > > af
> > > > > > > > > 60
> > > > > > > > > ebc
> > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other two
> > > > > > > > > dials.
> > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't be
> > > > > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > did, so please feel free to change.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me what
> > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > site
> > > > > > > > > > nagivation
> > > > > > > > > > issue was about again?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are already
> > > > > > > > > > closed:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=11314
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > > > > > > > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no entry in
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > bugzilla
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the
> > > > > > > > > > > flickering.
> > > > > > > > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without design work
> > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > part,
> > > > > > > > > > > Maurice.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswei
> > > > > > > > > > > > n(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > rude
> > > > > > > > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major available
> > > > > > > > > > > > bugs
> > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > flickering
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping
> > > > > > > > > > > > text in
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > > > end?
> > > > > > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs which
> > > > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > > > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text
> > > > > > > > > > > > formation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Think
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next 2-3
> > > > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2018,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 16:58:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > move
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > top
> > > > > > > > > > > > > navigation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.treme
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > r(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few days and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can make some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > progress?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > things:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > running it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (potentially
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > toooo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > small,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > systems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > running
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > CPU
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like last
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > much:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f251
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
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> > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0fe1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e52b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > b601
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f908
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > wise
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage people to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interesting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away from security-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > related
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve some of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > texts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > care
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > localized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only English
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > together
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please continue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and pushing to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > usual.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am excited
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > todo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > near
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 250
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month
> 
> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello *,

for the time being, I am taking over from Sven who is caught up in work and I
really need to move forward rolling out the website as soon as possible now.

So I will keep you posted with a few updates that I am making. I am also doing
some backend works and this is a short summary of what I did this week:

* I removed the planet & news pages
* I added a new backend for the blog and merged all news and
  planet posts together
* I added a nice full-text search :)
* I cleaned up some of the backend code and this will continue

On the frontend side:

* I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 alpha 6 to
4.2.1)
* I moved a lot of the CSS into variables and it is now dynamically compiled
from SASS to CSS when ever something is changed.
* I removed loads of old pages that we no longer need as well as images (so
loads and loads of house-keeping)

* I implemented the blog
  For this I have loads of questions, requests and ideas for improvements
  which I will put into a separate email

* I implemented the form to the donation page
  I did that in a slightly different way because the popup won't work since
  we will already have a popup that encourages people to make their donation
  a recurring one - please see that as a proposal. I will also send an extra
  email about the donation page

* I also tried to rework pages like the legal page. I guess I failed terribly on
that one design-wise. So we will have to talk what we can do about the other
pages.

At the moment the site isn't online. I am installing a new web server that will
host it for now and soon will be running the production version of it. I will
let you know when that is online.

Best,
-Michael

On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 12:21 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just wanted to make a request about the donation page.
> 
> Can we have a field where people can enter a comment? Some people just write
> "Thank you" and some other write what features they would like to see in the
> future and this is usually a good way to communicate that.
> 
> It could potentially go under the address input. It doesn't have to be very
> big.
> Only two lines or so.
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
> On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > Ah cool, just found it (again :D).
> > 
> > Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet?
> > 
> > I guess you might want to remove the <form> tag that I added again, but I
> > suppose the functionality is clear through this.
> > 
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > We have a layout for the address-stuff.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hello guys,
> > > > 
> > > > I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff since contract
> > > > work
> > > > with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would like to be
> > > > able
> > > > to
> > > > accept donations through this as soon as possible.
> > > > 
> > > > So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I have a rough
> > > > version
> > > > running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates in PDF forms
> > > > and
> > > > so
> > > > on...
> > > > 
> > > > On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I implemented
> > > > everything
> > > > that
> > > > we need so far:
> > > > 
> > > >  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c361abc1a73d9c
> > > > 7b
> > > > 3f
> > > > f8d
> > > > 82da5e769e7378a128
> > > > 
> > > > The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a <form> tag and
> > > > indented
> > > > every line in the block by one tab.
> > > > 
> > > > All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on the donate
> > > > button,
> > > > we will send a request to my accounting software with all the details
> > > > and
> > > > then
> > > > redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So far they
> > > > will
> > > > never
> > > > come back.
> > > > 
> > > > As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the name, address
> > > > and
> > > > some
> > > > other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for that part of
> > > > the
> > > > donation form. Is that correct Maurice?
> > > > 
> > > > @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your development
> > > > machine?
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a problem since
> > > > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the main
> > > > > database
> > > > > using
> > > > > a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses connectivity
> > > > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > database and from then on there are those issues.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I can
> > > > > restart
> > > > > it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > -Michael
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not reachable or
> > > > > > shows
> > > > > > 500
> > > > > > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you could fix
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > permanently Michael? :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfir
> > > > > > e.
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > g>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being implemented:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e400e37d7
> > > > > > > af
> > > > > > > 60
> > > > > > > ebc
> > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other two
> > > > > > > dials.
> > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't be happy
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > did, so please feel free to change.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me what this
> > > > > > > > site
> > > > > > > > nagivation
> > > > > > > > issue was about again?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are already
> > > > > > > > closed:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=11314
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > > > > > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no entry in the
> > > > > > > > > bugzilla
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the flickering.
> > > > > > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without design work
> > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > part,
> > > > > > > > > Maurice.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswei
> > > > > > > > > > n(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like that.
> > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > rude
> > > > > > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major available bugs
> > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > flickering
> > > > > > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping text in
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in the
> > > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > end?
> > > > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs which
> > > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text
> > > > > > > > > > formation.
> > > > > > > > > > Think
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next 2-3
> > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018,
> > > > > > > > > > 16:58:
> > > > > > > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next
> > > > > > > > > > > weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and move
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > top
> > > > > > > > > > > navigation?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.treme
> > > > > > > > > > > > r(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few days and weeks?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can make some good
> > > > > > > > > > > > progress?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still have to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > things:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are running it
> > > > > > > > > > > > (as
> > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for
> > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > (potentially
> > > > > > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo
> > > > > > > > > > > > small,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems
> > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > running
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so
> > > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better
> > > > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > CPU
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > much:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f251
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6d
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > b73f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9605
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 7891fb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6a69
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > c0351c2fac2676ef
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9876
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8e
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 99ed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1189
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > c8cacc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7744
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1633
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 48
> > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1f04
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > d97fec
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > c0c8
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > c9b688057b294ec1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 22e0
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> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 5f6f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5d1f
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 8cd8fd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9540
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 195d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8e
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ea71
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 97e8
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 3e7b71
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 616f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a49b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 54
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 22cd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 97e0
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > f64fa9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dc7b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 47367d2bb16945ee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3e7c
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6c
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > cdef
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6e5b
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 63f9b0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1576
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6cfb894931b43e65
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14cd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4f
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > a8c6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > b404
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 1ba0dd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3c48
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 46561d50421d97f6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ba43
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a8
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 92f7
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3a6b
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 68bccd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ef23
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > that:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 962f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > de
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > e989
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7085
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 35f3b1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 60e3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7c06
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > e897
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 41c3
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > b0792c
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0fe1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > e52b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > b601
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > f908
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > wise
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage people to set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that are interesting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away from security-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > related
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German translation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > texts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > care
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > localized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only English for a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > while.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch together
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please continue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and pushing to your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > usual.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am excited
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > near
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 250
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello,

I just wanted to make a request about the donation page.

Can we have a field where people can enter a comment? Some people just write
"Thank you" and some other write what features they would like to see in the
future and this is usually a good way to communicate that.

It could potentially go under the address input. It doesn't have to be very big.
Only two lines or so.

Best,
-Michael

On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Ah cool, just found it (again :D).
> 
> Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet?
> 
> I guess you might want to remove the <form> tag that I added again, but I
> suppose the functionality is clear through this.
> 
> -Michael
> 
> On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > We have a layout for the address-stuff.
> > 
> > 
> > > On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello guys,
> > > 
> > > I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff since contract
> > > work
> > > with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would like to be
> > > able
> > > to
> > > accept donations through this as soon as possible.
> > > 
> > > So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I have a rough
> > > version
> > > running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates in PDF forms
> > > and
> > > so
> > > on...
> > > 
> > > On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I implemented
> > > everything
> > > that
> > > we need so far:
> > > 
> > >  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c361abc1a73d9c7b
> > > 3f
> > > f8d
> > > 82da5e769e7378a128
> > > 
> > > The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a <form> tag and
> > > indented
> > > every line in the block by one tab.
> > > 
> > > All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on the donate
> > > button,
> > > we will send a request to my accounting software with all the details and
> > > then
> > > redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So far they will
> > > never
> > > come back.
> > > 
> > > As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the name, address and
> > > some
> > > other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for that part of
> > > the
> > > donation form. Is that correct Maurice?
> > > 
> > > @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your development machine?
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > -Michael
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a problem since it
> > > > is
> > > > hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the main
> > > > database
> > > > using
> > > > a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses connectivity
> > > > to
> > > > the
> > > > database and from then on there are those issues.
> > > > 
> > > > Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I can restart
> > > > it.
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not reachable or
> > > > > shows
> > > > > 500
> > > > > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you could fix
> > > > > this
> > > > > permanently Michael? :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.
> > > > > or
> > > > > g>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being implemented:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e400e37d7af
> > > > > > 60
> > > > > > ebc
> > > > > > 45
> > > > > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other two dials.
> > > > > > This
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't be happy
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > did, so please feel free to change.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me what this
> > > > > > > site
> > > > > > > nagivation
> > > > > > > issue was about again?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are already closed:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=11314
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > > > > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no entry in the
> > > > > > > > bugzilla
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the flickering.
> > > > > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without design work from
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > part,
> > > > > > > > Maurice.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswei
> > > > > > > > > n(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like that. This
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > rude
> > > > > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major available bugs
> > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > flickering
> > > > > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping text in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in the very
> > > > > > > > > end?
> > > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs which could
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text formation.
> > > > > > > > > Think
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next 2-3 weeks.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018,
> > > > > > > > > 16:58:
> > > > > > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next weeks.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and move it
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > top
> > > > > > > > > > navigation?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > <michael.treme
> > > > > > > > > > > r(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few days and weeks?
> > > > > > > > > > > Are
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can make some good
> > > > > > > > > > > progress?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still have to
> > > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the following
> > > > > > > > > > > two
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > things:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are running it
> > > > > > > > > > > (as
> > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for each
> > > > > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > (potentially
> > > > > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo
> > > > > > > > > > > small,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > running
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so
> > > > > > > > > > > on.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better
> > > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > CPU
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > much:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > f251
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6d
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > b73f
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> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 7891fb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6a69
> > > > > > > > > > > > > c0351c2fac2676ef
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
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> > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > 7744
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > dc7b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 47367d2bb16945ee
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3e7c
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6cfb894931b43e65
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 14cd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4f
> > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > b404
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3c48
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 46561d50421d97f6
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ba43
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a8
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 92f7
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody
> > > > > > > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > that:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 962f
> > > > > > > > > > > > > de
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > 41c3
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > b0792c
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 0fe1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > e52b
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > b601
> > > > > > > > > > > > > f908
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > wise
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage people to set up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that are interesting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away from security-related
> > > > > > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German translation. We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > texts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > care
> > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > localized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only English for a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > while.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch together
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and pushing to your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > usual.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am excited about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > list?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 250
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Ah cool, just found it (again :D).

Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet?

I guess you might want to remove the <form> tag that I added again, but I
suppose the functionality is clear through this.

-Michael

On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote:
> We have a layout for the address-stuff.
> 
> 
> > On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello guys,
> > 
> > I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff since contract work
> > with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would like to be able
> > to
> > accept donations through this as soon as possible.
> > 
> > So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I have a rough
> > version
> > running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates in PDF forms and
> > so
> > on...
> > 
> > On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I implemented everything
> > that
> > we need so far:
> > 
> >  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c361abc1a73d9c7b3f
> > f8d
> > 82da5e769e7378a128
> > 
> > The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a <form> tag and
> > indented
> > every line in the block by one tab.
> > 
> > All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on the donate
> > button,
> > we will send a request to my accounting software with all the details and
> > then
> > redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So far they will
> > never
> > come back.
> > 
> > As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the name, address and
> > some
> > other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for that part of the
> > donation form. Is that correct Maurice?
> > 
> > @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your development machine?
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a problem since it is
> > > hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the main database
> > > using
> > > a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses connectivity to
> > > the
> > > database and from then on there are those issues.
> > > 
> > > Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I can restart
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > -Michael
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not reachable or
> > > > shows
> > > > 500
> > > > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you could fix this
> > > > permanently Michael? :)
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.or
> > > > g>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hey,
> > > > > 
> > > > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being implemented:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e400e37d7af60
> > > > > ebc
> > > > > 45
> > > > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
> > > > > 
> > > > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other two dials.
> > > > > This
> > > > > is
> > > > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't be happy with
> > > > > what
> > > > > I
> > > > > did, so please feel free to change.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > -Michael
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me what this
> > > > > > site
> > > > > > nagivation
> > > > > > issue was about again?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are already closed:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=11314
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > > > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no entry in the
> > > > > > > bugzilla
> > > > > 
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the flickering.
> > > > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without design work from
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > 
> > > > > part,
> > > > > > > Maurice.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswei
> > > > > > > > n(a)ip
> > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > 
> > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like that. This is
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > rude
> > > > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major available bugs like
> > > > > 
> > > > > flickering
> > > > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping text in the
> > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in the very
> > > > > > > > end?
> > > > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs which could
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text formation.
> > > > > > > > Think
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next 2-3 weeks.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018,
> > > > > > > > 16:58:
> > > > > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next weeks.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and move it to
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > 
> > > > > top
> > > > > > > > > navigation?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.treme
> > > > > > > > > > r(a)ip
> > > > > > > > > > fi
> > > > > 
> > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few days and weeks? Are
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > 
> > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can make some good
> > > > > > > > > > progress?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still have to decide
> > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the following
> > > > > > > > > > two
> > > > > 
> > > > > things:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are running it (as
> > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > 
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for each
> > > > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > (potentially
> > > > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo
> > > > > > > > > > small,
> > > > > 
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems are
> > > > > 
> > > > > running
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so on.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better
> > > > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > 
> > > > > CPU
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > 
> > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that
> > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > much:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > f251
> > > > > > > > > > > > 6d
> > > > > 
> > > > > b73f
> > > > > > > > > > > > 9605
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 7891fb
> > > > > > > > > > > > 6a69
> > > > > > > > > > > > c0351c2fac2676ef
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > 9876
> > > > > > > > > > > > 8e
> > > > > 
> > > > > 99ed
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1189
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > c8cacc
> > > > > > > > > > > > 7744
> > > > > > > > > > > > 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1633
> > > > > > > > > > > > 48
> > > > > 
> > > > > f570
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1f04
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > d97fec
> > > > > > > > > > > > c0c8
> > > > > > > > > > > > c9b688057b294ec1
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > 22e0
> > > > > > > > > > > > 13
> > > > > 
> > > > > 5f6f
> > > > > > > > > > > > 5d1f
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 8cd8fd
> > > > > > > > > > > > 9540
> > > > > > > > > > > > b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > 195d
> > > > > > > > > > > > 8e
> > > > > 
> > > > > ea71
> > > > > > > > > > > > 97e8
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 3e7b71
> > > > > > > > > > > > 616f
> > > > > > > > > > > > 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > a49b
> > > > > > > > > > > > 54
> > > > > 
> > > > > 22cd
> > > > > > > > > > > > 97e0
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > f64fa9
> > > > > > > > > > > > dc7b
> > > > > > > > > > > > 47367d2bb16945ee
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3e7c
> > > > > > > > > > > > 6c
> > > > > 
> > > > > cdef
> > > > > > > > > > > > 6e5b
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 63f9b0
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1576
> > > > > > > > > > > > 6cfb894931b43e65
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > 14cd
> > > > > > > > > > > > 4f
> > > > > 
> > > > > a8c6
> > > > > > > > > > > > b404
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 1ba0dd
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3c48
> > > > > > > > > > > > 46561d50421d97f6
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > ba43
> > > > > > > > > > > > a8
> > > > > 
> > > > > 92f7
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3a6b
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 68bccd
> > > > > > > > > > > > ef23
> > > > > > > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody
> > > > > > > > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > 
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > that:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > 962f
> > > > > > > > > > > > de
> > > > > 
> > > > > e989
> > > > > > > > > > > > 7085
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 35f3b1
> > > > > > > > > > > > 60e3
> > > > > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > 7c06
> > > > > > > > > > > > 05
> > > > > 
> > > > > e897
> > > > > > > > > > > > 41c3
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > b0792c
> > > > > > > > > > > > 0fe1
> > > > > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=
> > > > > > > > > > > > e52b
> > > > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > > > 
> > > > > b601
> > > > > > > > > > > > f908
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it
> > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > 
> > > > > wise
> > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a
> > > > > 
> > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that are interesting
> > > > > > > > > > > > enough to
> > > > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away from security-related
> > > > > > > > > > > > things
> > > > > 
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German translation. We
> > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > 
> > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care
> > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > 
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > localized
> > > > > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only English for a
> > > > > > > > > > > > while.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch together with
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working
> > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and pushing to your
> > > > > > > > > > > > repository
> > > > > 
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > usual.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am excited about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > 
> > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > list?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 250
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > 
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > 
> > > > > <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month
> 
> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Sven]

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We have a layout for the address-stuff.


> On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello guys,
> 
> I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff since contract work
> with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would like to be able to
> accept donations through this as soon as possible.
> 
> So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I have a rough version
> running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates in PDF forms and so
> on...
> 
> On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I implemented everything that
> we need so far:
> 
>  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c361abc1a73d9c7b3ff8d
> 82da5e769e7378a128
> 
> The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a <form> tag and indented
> every line in the block by one tab.
> 
> All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on the donate button,
> we will send a request to my accounting software with all the details and then
> redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So far they will never
> come back.
> 
> As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the name, address and some
> other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for that part of the
> donation form. Is that correct Maurice?
> 
> @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your development machine?
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
> On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a problem since it is
>> hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the main database
>> using
>> a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses connectivity to the
>> database and from then on there are those issues.
>> 
>> Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I can restart it.
>> 
>> Best,
>> -Michael
>> 
>> On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
>>> Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not reachable or shows
>>> 500
>>> error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you could fix this
>>> permanently Michael? :)
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hey,
>>>> 
>>>> the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being implemented:
>>>> 
>>>>  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e400e37d7af60ebc
>>>> 45
>>>> 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
>>>> 
>>>> I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other two dials. This
>>>> is
>>>> just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't be happy with
>>>> what
>>>> I
>>>> did, so please feel free to change.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> -Michael
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>> Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me what this site
>>>>> nagivation
>>>>> issue was about again?
>>>>> 
>>>>> So far we have four tickets open and many many are already closed:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=11314
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
>>>>>> Of course we have to fix the bugs.
>>>>>> But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no entry in the
>>>>>> bugzilla
>>>> 
>>>> and
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the flickering.
>>>>>> I know that there is still a lot to do without design work from your
>>>> 
>>>> part,
>>>>>> Maurice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ip
>>>>>>> fi
>>>> 
>>>> re.o
>>>>>>> rg
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First, this is no fingerpointing or something like that. This is not
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> rude
>>>>>>> comment! I'm wondering what about the major available bugs like
>>>> 
>>>> flickering
>>>>>>> Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping text in the
>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>> sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in the very end?
>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs which could be
>>>>>>> addressed
>>>>>>> while no new designs/layouts are available.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text formation. Think
>>>> 
>>>> I'll
>>>>>>> have a bit of time to work on this during the next 2-3 weeks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best, Maurice
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018, 16:58:
>>>>>>>> This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next weeks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and move it to the
>>>> 
>>>> top
>>>>>>>> navigation?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ip
>>>>>>>>> fi
>>>> 
>>>> re.o
>>>>>>>>> rg
>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick answer.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> at the moment no news from my side.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> How is your availability in the next few days and weeks? Are you
>>>> 
>>>> quite
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> busy with
>>>>>>>>> other things or do you think that we can make some good
>>>>>>>>> progress?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But if you order the page content, we still have to decide
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Fireinfo
>>>>>>>>>> Stats to put on the homepage.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the following two
>>>> 
>>>> things:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> * The latest version and how many systems are running it (as we
>>>> 
>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> already).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for each
>>>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (potentially
>>>>>>>>> one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo small,
>>>> 
>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>> above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems are
>>>> 
>>>> running
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so on.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better than
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>> 
>>>> CPU
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer
>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.tremer@
>>>> 
>>>> ipfi
>>>>>>>>>>> re.o
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> rg>:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the
>>>>>>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This is mostly all backend:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> much:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=f251
>>>>>>>>>>> 6d
>>>> 
>>>> b73f
>>>>>>>>>>> 9605
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 7891fb
>>>>>>>>>>> 6a69
>>>>>>>>>>> c0351c2fac2676ef
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=9876
>>>>>>>>>>> 8e
>>>> 
>>>> 99ed
>>>>>>>>>>> 1189
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> c8cacc
>>>>>>>>>>> 7744
>>>>>>>>>>> 0efc3e75c23e18aa
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=1633
>>>>>>>>>>> 48
>>>> 
>>>> f570
>>>>>>>>>>> 1f04
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> d97fec
>>>>>>>>>>> c0c8
>>>>>>>>>>> c9b688057b294ec1
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e0
>>>>>>>>>>> 13
>>>> 
>>>> 5f6f
>>>>>>>>>>> 5d1f
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 8cd8fd
>>>>>>>>>>> 9540
>>>>>>>>>>> b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=195d
>>>>>>>>>>> 8e
>>>> 
>>>> ea71
>>>>>>>>>>> 97e8
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 3e7b71
>>>>>>>>>>> 616f
>>>>>>>>>>> 0632f5e2fb4452c5
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49b
>>>>>>>>>>> 54
>>>> 
>>>> 22cd
>>>>>>>>>>> 97e0
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> f64fa9
>>>>>>>>>>> dc7b
>>>>>>>>>>> 47367d2bb16945ee
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e7c
>>>>>>>>>>> 6c
>>>> 
>>>> cdef
>>>>>>>>>>> 6e5b
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 63f9b0
>>>>>>>>>>> 1576
>>>>>>>>>>> 6cfb894931b43e65
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=14cd
>>>>>>>>>>> 4f
>>>> 
>>>> a8c6
>>>>>>>>>>> b404
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1ba0dd
>>>>>>>>>>> 3c48
>>>>>>>>>>> 46561d50421d97f6
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba43
>>>>>>>>>>> a8
>>>> 
>>>> 92f7
>>>>>>>>>>> 3a6b
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 68bccd
>>>>>>>>>>> ef23
>>>>>>>>>>> bf9d28ac49557e4f
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody seems
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>> 
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> that:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=962f
>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>> 
>>>> e989
>>>>>>>>>>> 7085
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 35f3b1
>>>>>>>>>>> 60e3
>>>>>>>>>>> 814d9d7fe0cb2686
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> * And the bigger changes are those two:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c06
>>>>>>>>>>> 05
>>>> 
>>>> e897
>>>>>>>>>>> 41c3
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> b0792c
>>>>>>>>>>> 0fe1
>>>>>>>>>>> 07459098ba248b7d
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52b
>>>>>>>>>>> 45
>>>> 
>>>> b601
>>>>>>>>>>> f908
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> e7bf44
>>>>>>>>>>> 77f9
>>>>>>>>>>> 615ce674ce1de8da
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it is
>>>> 
>>>> wise
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a
>>>> 
>>>> recurring
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> donation
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of searching features that are interesting enough to
>>>>>>>>>>> donate
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>>>> to because that takes money away from security-related
>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>> 
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> very exciting for our users.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The second one drop the entire German translation. We still
>>>> 
>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>> ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts, but
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> afford
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>> 
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> localized
>>>>>>>>>>> website anyways since the wiki is only English for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know your comments.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I also merged everything from your branch together with the
>>>>>>>>>>> changes to
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working on
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> branch
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You can do this as follows:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> git fetch origin
>>>>>>>>>>> git reset --hard origin/next
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And then just keep committing and pushing to your repository
>>>> 
>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> usual.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>> push needs to overwrite the old branch:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> git push shoehn +master
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any status update other than this?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the
>>>> 
>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250
>>>>>>>>>>>>> EUR
>>>> 
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> month,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really really pointless...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer
>>>> 
>>>> <michael.tre
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mer(a)ipfi
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> re
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They generally do offer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello guys,

I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff since contract work
with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would like to be able to
accept donations through this as soon as possible.

So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I have a rough version
running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates in PDF forms and so
on...

On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I implemented everything that
we need so far:

  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c361abc1a73d9c7b3ff8d
82da5e769e7378a128

The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a <form> tag and indented
every line in the block by one tab.

All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on the donate button,
we will send a request to my accounting software with all the details and then
redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So far they will never
come back.

As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the name, address and some
other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for that part of the
donation form. Is that correct Maurice?

@Sven: Is the application back up and running on your development machine?

Best,
-Michael

On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a problem since it is
> hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the main database
> using
> a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses connectivity to the
> database and from then on there are those issues.
> 
> Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I can restart it.
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
> On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not reachable or shows
> > 500
> > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you could fix this
> > permanently Michael? :)
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> > wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being implemented:
> > > 
> > >   https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e400e37d7af60ebc
> > > 45
> > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
> > > 
> > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other two dials. This
> > > is
> > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't be happy with
> > > what
> > > I
> > > did, so please feel free to change.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > -Michael
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me what this site
> > > > nagivation
> > > > issue was about again?
> > > > 
> > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are already closed:
> > > > 
> > > >   https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=11314
> > > > 
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no entry in the
> > > > > bugzilla
> > > 
> > > and
> > > > > on
> > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the flickering.
> > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without design work from your
> > > 
> > > part,
> > > > > Maurice.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > Sven
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ip
> > > > > > fi
> > > 
> > > re.o
> > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like that. This is not
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > rude
> > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major available bugs like
> > > 
> > > flickering
> > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping text in the
> > > > > > left
> > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in the very end?
> > > > > > In
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs which could be
> > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text formation. Think
> > > 
> > > I'll
> > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next 2-3 weeks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018, 16:58:
> > > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next weeks.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and move it to the
> > > 
> > > top
> > > > > > > navigation?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ip
> > > > > > > > fi
> > > 
> > > re.o
> > > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few days and weeks? Are you
> > > 
> > > quite
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can make some good
> > > > > > > > progress?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still have to decide
> > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the following two
> > > 
> > > things:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are running it (as we
> > > 
> > > have
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for each
> > > > > > > > request
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > (potentially
> > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo small,
> > > 
> > > maybe
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems are
> > > 
> > > running
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so on.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better than
> > > > > > > > what
> > > 
> > > CPU
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > 
> > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the
> > > > > > > > > > website.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that
> > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > much:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=f251
> > > > > > > > > > 6d
> > > 
> > > b73f
> > > > > > > > > > 9605
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 7891fb
> > > > > > > > > > 6a69
> > > > > > > > > > c0351c2fac2676ef
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=9876
> > > > > > > > > > 8e
> > > 
> > > 99ed
> > > > > > > > > > 1189
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > c8cacc
> > > > > > > > > > 7744
> > > > > > > > > > 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=1633
> > > > > > > > > > 48
> > > 
> > > f570
> > > > > > > > > > 1f04
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > d97fec
> > > > > > > > > > c0c8
> > > > > > > > > > c9b688057b294ec1
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e0
> > > > > > > > > > 13
> > > 
> > > 5f6f
> > > > > > > > > > 5d1f
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 8cd8fd
> > > > > > > > > > 9540
> > > > > > > > > > b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=195d
> > > > > > > > > > 8e
> > > 
> > > ea71
> > > > > > > > > > 97e8
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 3e7b71
> > > > > > > > > > 616f
> > > > > > > > > > 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49b
> > > > > > > > > > 54
> > > 
> > > 22cd
> > > > > > > > > > 97e0
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > f64fa9
> > > > > > > > > > dc7b
> > > > > > > > > > 47367d2bb16945ee
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e7c
> > > > > > > > > > 6c
> > > 
> > > cdef
> > > > > > > > > > 6e5b
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 63f9b0
> > > > > > > > > > 1576
> > > > > > > > > > 6cfb894931b43e65
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=14cd
> > > > > > > > > > 4f
> > > 
> > > a8c6
> > > > > > > > > > b404
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1ba0dd
> > > > > > > > > > 3c48
> > > > > > > > > > 46561d50421d97f6
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba43
> > > > > > > > > > a8
> > > 
> > > 92f7
> > > > > > > > > > 3a6b
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 68bccd
> > > > > > > > > > ef23
> > > > > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody seems
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > 
> > > be
> > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > that:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=962f
> > > > > > > > > > de
> > > 
> > > e989
> > > > > > > > > > 7085
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 35f3b1
> > > > > > > > > > 60e3
> > > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c06
> > > > > > > > > > 05
> > > 
> > > e897
> > > > > > > > > > 41c3
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > b0792c
> > > > > > > > > > 0fe1
> > > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52b
> > > > > > > > > > 45
> > > 
> > > b601
> > > > > > > > > > f908
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it is
> > > 
> > > wise
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a
> > > 
> > > recurring
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that are interesting enough to
> > > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away from security-related
> > > > > > > > > > things
> > > 
> > > that
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German translation. We still
> > > 
> > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts, but
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care
> > > > > > > > > > about
> > > 
> > > a
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > localized
> > > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only English for a while.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch together with the
> > > > > > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working on
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and pushing to your repository
> > > 
> > > as
> > > > > > > > > > usual.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the
> > > 
> > > website
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250
> > > > > > > > > > > > EUR
> > > 
> > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > > 
> > > <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > month

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello,

yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a problem since it is
hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the main database using
a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses connectivity to the
database and from then on there are those issues.

Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I can restart it.

Best,
-Michael

On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not reachable or shows 500
> error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you could fix this
> permanently Michael? :)
> 
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> wrote:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being implemented:
> > 
> >   https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e400e37d7af60ebc45
> > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
> > 
> > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other two dials. This is
> > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't be happy with what
> > I
> > did, so please feel free to change.
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me what this site
> > > nagivation
> > > issue was about again?
> > > 
> > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are already closed:
> > > 
> > >   https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=11314
> > > 
> > > -Michael
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no entry in the bugzilla
> > and
> > > > on
> > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the flickering.
> > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without design work from your
> > part,
> > > > Maurice.
> > > > 
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > Sven
> > > > 
> > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ipfi
> > re.o
> > > > > rg
> > > > > > :
> > > > > 
> > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like that. This is not a
> > > > > rude
> > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major available bugs like
> > flickering
> > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping text in the left
> > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in the very end? In
> > > > > other
> > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs which could be
> > > > > addressed
> > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text formation. Think
> > I'll
> > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next 2-3 weeks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018, 16:58:
> > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next weeks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and move it to the
> > top
> > > > > > navigation?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfi
> > re.o
> > > > > > > rg
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few days and weeks? Are you
> > quite
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > busy with
> > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can make some good progress?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still have to decide which
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the following two
> > things:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are running it (as we
> > have
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > already).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for each request
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (potentially
> > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo small,
> > maybe
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > everything
> > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems are
> > running
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so on.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better than what
> > CPU
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@
> > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > re.o
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the website.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that don't
> > > > > > > > > change
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > much:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2516d
> > b73f
> > > > > > > > > 9605
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 7891fb
> > > > > > > > > 6a69
> > > > > > > > > c0351c2fac2676ef
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=98768e
> > 99ed
> > > > > > > > > 1189
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > c8cacc
> > > > > > > > > 7744
> > > > > > > > > 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=163348
> > f570
> > > > > > > > > 1f04
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > d97fec
> > > > > > > > > c0c8
> > > > > > > > > c9b688057b294ec1
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e013
> > 5f6f
> > > > > > > > > 5d1f
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 8cd8fd
> > > > > > > > > 9540
> > > > > > > > > b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=195d8e
> > ea71
> > > > > > > > > 97e8
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 3e7b71
> > > > > > > > > 616f
> > > > > > > > > 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49b54
> > 22cd
> > > > > > > > > 97e0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > f64fa9
> > > > > > > > > dc7b
> > > > > > > > > 47367d2bb16945ee
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e7c6c
> > cdef
> > > > > > > > > 6e5b
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 63f9b0
> > > > > > > > > 1576
> > > > > > > > > 6cfb894931b43e65
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=14cd4f
> > a8c6
> > > > > > > > > b404
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1ba0dd
> > > > > > > > > 3c48
> > > > > > > > > 46561d50421d97f6
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba43a8
> > 92f7
> > > > > > > > > 3a6b
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 68bccd
> > > > > > > > > ef23
> > > > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody seems to
> > be
> > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > that:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=962fde
> > e989
> > > > > > > > > 7085
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 35f3b1
> > > > > > > > > 60e3
> > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c0605
> > e897
> > > > > > > > > 41c3
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > b0792c
> > > > > > > > > 0fe1
> > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52b45
> > b601
> > > > > > > > > f908
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it is
> > wise
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > follow
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a
> > recurring
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > donation
> > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that are interesting enough to
> > > > > > > > > donate
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away from security-related things
> > that
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German translation. We still
> > have a
> > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts, but I
> > > > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > afford
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care about
> > a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > localized
> > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only English for a while.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch together with the
> > > > > > > > > changes to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working on that
> > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and pushing to your repository
> > as
> > > > > > > > > usual.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the
> > website
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250 EUR
> > a
> > > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer
> > <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > month
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hey,

the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being implemented:

  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e400e37d7af60ebc4545ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5

I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other two dials. This is
just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't be happy with what I
did, so please feel free to change.

Best,
-Michael

On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me what this site
> nagivation
> issue was about again?
> 
> So far we have four tickets open and many many are already closed:
> 
>   https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=11314
> 
> -Michael
> 
> On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no entry in the bugzilla and
> > on
> > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the flickering.
> > I know that there is still a lot to do without design work from your part,
> > Maurice.
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > Sven
> > 
> > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ipfire.o
> > > rg
> > > > :
> > > 
> > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like that. This is not a
> > > rude
> > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major available bugs like flickering
> > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping text in the left
> > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in the very end? In
> > > other
> > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs which could be
> > > addressed
> > > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > > 
> > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text formation. Think I'll
> > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next 2-3 weeks.
> > > 
> > > Best, Maurice
> > > 
> > > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018, 16:58:
> > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next weeks.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
> > > > 
> > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and move it to the top
> > > > navigation?
> > > > 
> > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.o
> > > > > rg
> > > > > :
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > > 
> > > > > How is your availability in the next few days and weeks? Are you quite
> > > > 
> > > > busy with
> > > > > other things or do you think that we can make some good progress?
> > > > > 
> > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still have to decide which
> > > > 
> > > > Fireinfo
> > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the following two things:
> > > > > 
> > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are running it (as we have
> > > > > it
> > > > > already).
> > > > > 
> > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for each request
> > > > 
> > > > (potentially
> > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo small, maybe
> > > > 
> > > > everything
> > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems are running
> > > > > in
> > > > 
> > > > that
> > > > > country.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so on.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better than what CPU
> > > > 
> > > > people
> > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > -Michael
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > > re.o
> > > > 
> > > > rg>:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the website.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This is mostly all backend:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that don't
> > > > > > > change
> > > > 
> > > > much:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2516db73f
> > > > > > > 9605
> > > > 
> > > > 7891fb
> > > > > > > 6a69
> > > > > > > c0351c2fac2676ef
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=98768e99ed
> > > > > > > 1189
> > > > 
> > > > c8cacc
> > > > > > > 7744
> > > > > > > 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=163348f570
> > > > > > > 1f04
> > > > 
> > > > d97fec
> > > > > > > c0c8
> > > > > > > c9b688057b294ec1
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e0135f6f
> > > > > > > 5d1f
> > > > 
> > > > 8cd8fd
> > > > > > > 9540
> > > > > > > b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=195d8eea71
> > > > > > > 97e8
> > > > 
> > > > 3e7b71
> > > > > > > 616f
> > > > > > > 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49b5422cd
> > > > > > > 97e0
> > > > 
> > > > f64fa9
> > > > > > > dc7b
> > > > > > > 47367d2bb16945ee
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e7c6ccdef
> > > > > > > 6e5b
> > > > 
> > > > 63f9b0
> > > > > > > 1576
> > > > > > > 6cfb894931b43e65
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=14cd4fa8c6
> > > > > > > b404
> > > > 
> > > > 1ba0dd
> > > > > > > 3c48
> > > > > > > 46561d50421d97f6
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba43a892f7
> > > > > > > 3a6b
> > > > 
> > > > 68bccd
> > > > > > > ef23
> > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody seems to be
> > > > > > > using
> > > > 
> > > > that:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=962fdee989
> > > > > > > 7085
> > > > 
> > > > 35f3b1
> > > > > > > 60e3
> > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c0605e897
> > > > > > > 41c3
> > > > 
> > > > b0792c
> > > > > > > 0fe1
> > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d
> > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52b45b601
> > > > > > > f908
> > > > 
> > > > e7bf44
> > > > > > > 77f9
> > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it is wise
> > > > > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > follow
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a recurring
> > > > 
> > > > donation
> > > > > > > instead of searching features that are interesting enough to
> > > > > > > donate
> > > > 
> > > > some
> > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > to because that takes money away from security-related things that
> > > > > > > are
> > > > 
> > > > just
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > very exciting for our users.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German translation. We still have a
> > > > > > > lot
> > > > 
> > > > of
> > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts, but I
> > > > > > > cannot
> > > > 
> > > > afford
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care about a
> > > > 
> > > > localized
> > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only English for a while.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Please let me know your comments.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch together with the
> > > > > > > changes to
> > > > 
> > > > the
> > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working on that
> > > > > > > branch
> > > > 
> > > > now.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You can do this as follows:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > git fetch origin
> > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And then just keep committing and pushing to your repository as
> > > > > > > usual.
> > > > 
> > > > The
> > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > git push shoehn +master
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > Any status update other than this?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the website
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > 
> > > > think
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250 EUR a
> > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > 
> > > > so
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > really really pointless...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tre
> > > > > > > > > > > mer(a)ipfi
> > > > 
> > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each
> > > > > > > > > > > month
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me what this site nagivation
issue was about again?

So far we have four tickets open and many many are already closed:

  https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=11314

-Michael

On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
> Of course we have to fix the bugs.
> But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no entry in the bugzilla and on
> my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the flickering.
> I know that there is still a lot to do without design work from your part,
> Maurice.
> 
> Greetings,
> Sven
> 
> > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ipfire.org
> > >:
> > 
> > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like that. This is not a rude
> > comment! I'm wondering what about the major available bugs like flickering
> > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping text in the left
> > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in the very end? In other
> > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs which could be addressed
> > while no new designs/layouts are available.
> > 
> > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text formation. Think I'll
> > have a bit of time to work on this during the next 2-3 weeks.
> > 
> > Best, Maurice
> > 
> > Sven <sven.hoehn(a)posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018, 16:58:
> > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next weeks.
> > > 
> > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.
> > > 
> > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and move it to the top
> > > navigation?
> > > 
> > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org
> > > >:
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the quick answer.
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > >> at the moment no news from my side.
> > > > 
> > > > How is your availability in the next few days and weeks? Are you quite
> > > busy with
> > > > other things or do you think that we can make some good progress?
> > > > 
> > > >> But if you order the page content, we still have to decide which
> > > Fireinfo
> > > >> Stats to put on the homepage.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the following two things:
> > > > 
> > > > * The latest version and how many systems are running it (as we have it
> > > > already).
> > > > 
> > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for each request
> > > (potentially
> > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo small, maybe
> > > everything
> > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems are running in
> > > that
> > > > country.
> > > > 
> > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so on.
> > > > 
> > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better than what CPU
> > > people
> > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
> > > > 
> > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Greetings,
> > > >> Sven
> > > >> 
> > > >>> Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.o
> > > rg>:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Hello,
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the website.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> This is mostly all backend:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that don't change
> > > much:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2516db73f9605
> > > 7891fb
> > > >>> 6a69
> > > >>> c0351c2fac2676ef
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=98768e99ed1189
> > > c8cacc
> > > >>> 7744
> > > >>> 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=163348f5701f04
> > > d97fec
> > > >>> c0c8
> > > >>> c9b688057b294ec1
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e0135f6f5d1f
> > > 8cd8fd
> > > >>> 9540
> > > >>> b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=195d8eea7197e8
> > > 3e7b71
> > > >>> 616f
> > > >>> 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49b5422cd97e0
> > > f64fa9
> > > >>> dc7b
> > > >>> 47367d2bb16945ee
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e7c6ccdef6e5b
> > > 63f9b0
> > > >>> 1576
> > > >>> 6cfb894931b43e65
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=14cd4fa8c6b404
> > > 1ba0dd
> > > >>> 3c48
> > > >>> 46561d50421d97f6
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba43a892f73a6b
> > > 68bccd
> > > >>> ef23
> > > >>> bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody seems to be using
> > > that:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=962fdee9897085
> > > 35f3b1
> > > >>> 60e3
> > > >>> 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c0605e89741c3
> > > b0792c
> > > >>> 0fe1
> > > >>> 07459098ba248b7d
> > > >>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52b45b601f908
> > > e7bf44
> > > >>> 77f9
> > > >>> 615ce674ce1de8da
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it is wise to
> > > follow
> > > >>> this
> > > >>> any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a recurring
> > > donation
> > > >>> instead of searching features that are interesting enough to donate
> > > some
> > > >>> money
> > > >>> to because that takes money away from security-related things that are
> > > just
> > > >>> not
> > > >>> very exciting for our users.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> The second one drop the entire German translation. We still have a lot
> > > of
> > > >>> work
> > > >>> ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts, but I cannot
> > > afford
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care about a
> > > localized
> > > >>> website anyways since the wiki is only English for a while.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Please let me know your comments.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> I also merged everything from your branch together with the changes to
> > > the
> > > >>> website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working on that branch
> > > now.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> You can do this as follows:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> git fetch origin
> > > >>> git reset --hard origin/next
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> And then just keep committing and pushing to your repository as usual.
> > > The
> > > >>> first
> > > >>> push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> git push shoehn +master
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Best,
> > > >>> -Michael
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > >>>> Any status update other than this?
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the website and
> > > think
> > > >>>> we
> > > >>>> are
> > > >>>> close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> -Michael
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > >>>>> Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250 EUR a month,
> > > so
> > > >>>>> this
> > > >>>>> is
> > > >>>>> really really pointless...
> > > >>>>> 
> > > >>>>> On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > >>>>>> 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > >>>>>> 
> > > >>>>>>> Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfi
> > > re
> > > >>>>>>> .org
> > > >>>>>>>> :
> > > >>>>>>> 
> > > >>>>>>> They generally do offer
> > > >>>>>>> that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each month
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > 
> 
> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Sven]

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This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the next weeks.

Yes, please implement the stats in the backend.

What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog and move it to the top navigation?

> Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>:
> 
> Thanks for the quick answer.
> 
> On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
>> at the moment no news from my side.
> 
> How is your availability in the next few days and weeks? Are you quite busy with
> other things or do you think that we can make some good progress?
> 
>> But if you order the page content, we still have to decide which Fireinfo
>> Stats to put on the homepage.
> 
> Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the following two things:
> 
> * The latest version and how many systems are running it (as we have it
> already).
> 
> * As a second thing, let's pick a random country for each request (potentially
> one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo small, maybe everything
> above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems are running in that
> country.
> 
> So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so on.
> 
> I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better than what CPU people
> are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...
> 
> Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> Sven
>> 
>>> Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the website.
>>> 
>>> This is mostly all backend:
>>> 
>>> * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that don't change much:
>>> 
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2516db73f96057891fb
>>> 6a69
>>> c0351c2fac2676ef
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=98768e99ed1189c8cacc
>>> 7744
>>> 0efc3e75c23e18aa
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=163348f5701f04d97fec
>>> c0c8
>>> c9b688057b294ec1
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e0135f6f5d1f8cd8fd
>>> 9540
>>> b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=195d8eea7197e83e7b71
>>> 616f
>>> 0632f5e2fb4452c5
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49b5422cd97e0f64fa9
>>> dc7b
>>> 47367d2bb16945ee
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e7c6ccdef6e5b63f9b0
>>> 1576
>>> 6cfb894931b43e65
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=14cd4fa8c6b4041ba0dd
>>> 3c48
>>> 46561d50421d97f6
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba43a892f73a6b68bccd
>>> ef23
>>> bf9d28ac49557e4f
>>> 
>>> * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody seems to be using that:
>>> 
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=962fdee989708535f3b1
>>> 60e3
>>> 814d9d7fe0cb2686
>>> 
>>> * And the bigger changes are those two:
>>> 
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c0605e89741c3b0792c
>>> 0fe1
>>> 07459098ba248b7d
>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52b45b601f908e7bf44
>>> 77f9
>>> 615ce674ce1de8da
>>> 
>>> The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it is wise to follow
>>> this
>>> any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a recurring donation
>>> instead of searching features that are interesting enough to donate some
>>> money
>>> to because that takes money away from security-related things that are just
>>> not
>>> very exciting for our users.
>>> 
>>> The second one drop the entire German translation. We still have a lot of
>>> work
>>> ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts, but I cannot afford
>>> the
>>> time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care about a localized
>>> website anyways since the wiki is only English for a while.
>>> 
>>> Please let me know your comments.
>>> 
>>> I also merged everything from your branch together with the changes to the
>>> website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working on that branch now.
>>> 
>>> You can do this as follows:
>>> 
>>> git fetch origin
>>> git reset --hard origin/next
>>> 
>>> And then just keep committing and pushing to your repository as usual. The
>>> first
>>> push needs to overwrite the old branch:
>>> 
>>> git push shoehn +master
>>> 
>>> The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>> Any status update other than this?
>>>> 
>>>> Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the website and think
>>>> we
>>>> are
>>>> close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?
>>>> 
>>>> -Michael
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>> Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250 EUR a month, so
>>>>> this
>>>>> is
>>>>> really really pointless...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
>>>>>> 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire
>>>>>>> .org
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> They generally do offer
>>>>>>> that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each month
>> 
>> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Thanks for the quick answer.

On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote:
> at the moment no news from my side.

How is your availability in the next few days and weeks? Are you quite busy with
other things or do you think that we can make some good progress?

> But if you order the page content, we still have to decide which Fireinfo
> Stats to put on the homepage.

Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the following two things:

* The latest version and how many systems are running it (as we have it
already).

* As a second thing, let's pick a random country for each request (potentially
one of the top 20 or so where percentages are not toooo small, maybe everything
above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the systems are running in that
country.

So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland (5%) and so on.

I guess that is a quite interesting statistic and better than what CPU people
are using because Intel is quite obvious any ways...

Do you want me to implement the backend like last time?

Best,
-Michael

> 
> Greetings,
> Sven
> 
> > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the website.
> > 
> > This is mostly all backend:
> > 
> > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that don't change much:
> > 
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2516db73f96057891fb
> > 6a69
> > c0351c2fac2676ef
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=98768e99ed1189c8cacc
> > 7744
> > 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=163348f5701f04d97fec
> > c0c8
> > c9b688057b294ec1
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e0135f6f5d1f8cd8fd
> > 9540
> > b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=195d8eea7197e83e7b71
> > 616f
> > 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49b5422cd97e0f64fa9
> > dc7b
> > 47367d2bb16945ee
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e7c6ccdef6e5b63f9b0
> > 1576
> > 6cfb894931b43e65
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=14cd4fa8c6b4041ba0dd
> > 3c48
> > 46561d50421d97f6
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba43a892f73a6b68bccd
> > ef23
> > bf9d28ac49557e4f
> > 
> > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody seems to be using that:
> > 
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=962fdee989708535f3b1
> > 60e3
> > 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> > 
> > * And the bigger changes are those two:
> > 
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c0605e89741c3b0792c
> > 0fe1
> > 07459098ba248b7d
> > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52b45b601f908e7bf44
> > 77f9
> > 615ce674ce1de8da
> > 
> > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it is wise to follow
> > this
> > any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a recurring donation
> > instead of searching features that are interesting enough to donate some
> > money
> > to because that takes money away from security-related things that are just
> > not
> > very exciting for our users.
> > 
> > The second one drop the entire German translation. We still have a lot of
> > work
> > ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts, but I cannot afford
> > the
> > time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care about a localized
> > website anyways since the wiki is only English for a while.
> > 
> > Please let me know your comments.
> > 
> > I also merged everything from your branch together with the changes to the
> > website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working on that branch now.
> > 
> > You can do this as follows:
> > 
> >  git fetch origin
> >  git reset --hard origin/next
> > 
> > And then just keep committing and pushing to your repository as usual. The
> > first
> > push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> > 
> >  git push shoehn +master
> > 
> > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > Any status update other than this?
> > > 
> > > Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the website and think
> > > we
> > > are
> > > close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?
> > > 
> > > -Michael
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250 EUR a month, so
> > > > this
> > > > is
> > > > really really pointless...
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire
> > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > They generally do offer
> > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each month
> 
> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Sven]

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at the moment no news from my side.

But if you order the page content, we still have to decide which Fireinfo Stats to put on the homepage.

Greetings,
Sven

> Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the website.
> 
> This is mostly all backend:
> 
> * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that don't change much:
> 
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2516db73f96057891fb6a69
> c0351c2fac2676ef
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=98768e99ed1189c8cacc7744
> 0efc3e75c23e18aa
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=163348f5701f04d97fecc0c8
> c9b688057b294ec1
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e0135f6f5d1f8cd8fd9540
> b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=195d8eea7197e83e7b71616f
> 0632f5e2fb4452c5
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49b5422cd97e0f64fa9dc7b
> 47367d2bb16945ee
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e7c6ccdef6e5b63f9b01576
> 6cfb894931b43e65
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=14cd4fa8c6b4041ba0dd3c48
> 46561d50421d97f6
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba43a892f73a6b68bccdef23
> bf9d28ac49557e4f
> 
> * I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody seems to be using that:
> 
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=962fdee989708535f3b160e3
> 814d9d7fe0cb2686
> 
> * And the bigger changes are those two:
> 
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c0605e89741c3b0792c0fe1
> 07459098ba248b7d
> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52b45b601f908e7bf4477f9
> 615ce674ce1de8da
> 
> The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it is wise to follow this
> any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a recurring donation
> instead of searching features that are interesting enough to donate some money
> to because that takes money away from security-related things that are just not
> very exciting for our users.
> 
> The second one drop the entire German translation. We still have a lot of work
> ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts, but I cannot afford the
> time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care about a localized
> website anyways since the wiki is only English for a while.
> 
> Please let me know your comments.
> 
> I also merged everything from your branch together with the changes to the
> website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working on that branch now.
> 
> You can do this as follows:
> 
>  git fetch origin
>  git reset --hard origin/next
> 
> And then just keep committing and pushing to your repository as usual. The first
> push needs to overwrite the old branch:
> 
>  git push shoehn +master
> 
> The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
> On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>> Any status update other than this?
>> 
>> Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the website and think we
>> are
>> close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?
>> 
>> -Michael
>> 
>> On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>> Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250 EUR a month, so this
>>> is
>>> really really pointless...
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
>>>> 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org
>>>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> They generally do offer
>>>>> that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each month

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello,

me again. I went ahead and made a few changes to the website.

This is mostly all backend:

* A bit of tidying up of some messy code or changes that don't change much:

https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2516db73f96057891fb6a69
c0351c2fac2676ef
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=98768e99ed1189c8cacc7744
0efc3e75c23e18aa
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=163348f5701f04d97fecc0c8
c9b688057b294ec1
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=22e0135f6f5d1f8cd8fd9540
b1c8c52ca0d1cce1
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=195d8eea7197e83e7b71616f
0632f5e2fb4452c5
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=a49b5422cd97e0f64fa9dc7b
47367d2bb16945ee
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e7c6ccdef6e5b63f9b01576
6cfb894931b43e65
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=14cd4fa8c6b4041ba0dd3c48
46561d50421d97f6
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba43a892f73a6b68bccdef23
bf9d28ac49557e4f

* I dropped the link to the Google Plus page. Nobody seems to be using that:

https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=962fdee989708535f3b160e3
814d9d7fe0cb2686

* And the bigger changes are those two:

https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c0605e89741c3b0792c0fe1
07459098ba248b7d
https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52b45b601f908e7bf4477f9
615ce674ce1de8da

The first one drops the wishlist. I do not think that it is wise to follow this
any more. We should rather encourage people to set up a recurring donation
instead of searching features that are interesting enough to donate some money
to because that takes money away from security-related things that are just not
very exciting for our users.

The second one drop the entire German translation. We still have a lot of work
ahead of us and I am going to improve some of the texts, but I cannot afford the
time to do this for German as well. Nobody seems to care about a localized
website anyways since the wiki is only English for a while.

Please let me know your comments.

I also merged everything from your branch together with the changes to the
website in the meantime. Sven, please continue working on that branch now.

You can do this as follows:

  git fetch origin
  git reset --hard origin/next

And then just keep committing and pushing to your repository as usual. The first
push needs to overwrite the old branch:

  git push shoehn +master

The plus sign overwrites all changes in the old branch.

Best,
-Michael

On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Any status update other than this?
> 
> Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the website and think we
> are
> close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?
> 
> -Michael
> 
> On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250 EUR a month, so this
> > is
> > really really pointless...
> > 
> > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > > 
> > > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org
> > > > >:
> > > > 
> > > > They generally do offer
> > > > that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each month

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Any status update other than this?

Let me know where I can support. I am excited about the website and think we are
close to rolling it out. What is left on the todo list?

-Michael

On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250 EUR a month, so this is
> really really pointless...
> 
> On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> > 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> > 
> > > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>:
> > > 
> > > They generally do offer
> > > that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each month

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Yeah, but right now we are not even anywhere near 250 EUR a month, so this is
really really pointless...

On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven wrote:
> 25000 Euro each month would be great :-D
> 
> > Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>:
> > 
> > They generally do offer
> > that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each month
> 
> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello guys,

hope you enjoyed the lovely weather last week. This week it doesn't look too
nice where I am, so I am back to the desk.

Just wanted to check in on you and see how progress is. Is everything going
well?

I have been spending loads of time on the payment API. I have to implement the
whole thing out of hundreds of pages of documentation. But on the bright side,
this gives us loads of flexibility.

So I have a few answers to the questions that were still unanswered:

* We won't support recurring donations with PayPal. They generally do offer
that, but require a minimum turnover of 25000 EUR each month. I laughed and hung
up the phone.

* All the rest is looking good: Credit card transfers are basically set up; SEPA
mandates are being generated and we will email a PDF document to the donors.

Loads and loads of things are ready so far, but a few more things are left. I
hope to have the payment implementation done by the end of this week and then I
will have to spend a little time on how we track the donations and how we send
out emails, etc.

Looking forward to hear from you.

Best,
-Michael

On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 22:10 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> Hey Sven,
> 
> you can display and hide the grid with the small switch on the right side in
> Zeplin.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 6:28 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 16:30 +0100, Sven wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I push an update online with the donation-page.
> > 
> > Cool.
> > 
> > > It’s working but I’m not really happy with the responsiveness of it.
> > 
> > Why?
> > 
> > > Also I have to recheck the font formatting at the moment it seems wrong on
> > the
> > > donation page, but will recheck with the other pages and their viewports.
> > >
> > > Can someone explain me again why we need the pop-up box with the address
> > of
> > > the donator?
> > 
> > Because in Germany we have so many useless laws. We have to pay VAT on
> > donations, but for that is depends where the "service" is being provided.
> > 
> > > Do we need it all the time or only for the credit card payment?
> > 
> > Every time.
> > 
> > > When someone pays with PayPal that information are already included within
> > > their PayPal Account.
> > 
> > We optionally can get a "shipping address", but that is not the same. PayPal
> > otherwise just gives us the email address.
> > 
> > > How does the SEPA transfer work? Via online banking or will it show up the
> > > bank information like on the Mozilla Donation page?
> > 
> > It will be a direct debit (Lastschrift in German).
> > 
> > The second step will ask for the IBAN and BIC and that is all we need.
> > 
> > > Personally I would prefer a payment method where I have to insert as less
> > > information as possible.
> > 
> > Same here. I suppose that this will be a big problem here. Maybe we need
> > some
> > fine-tuning later, but I do not see a way how we get around this in a better
> > way. But open for any ideas.
> > 
> > > @Maurice can you please include the screens with the overlaying grid on
> > > zeplin? I have some trouble understanding how many columns the text-blocks 
> > on
> > > the donation page are.
> > 
> > You only sent this email to me. Please copy the list next time.
> > 
> > >
> > > Still a lot to do but we are moving forward.
> > 
> > Yes :) Very happy to see the progress here.
> > 
> > The PayPal logo is missing in git.
> > 
> > -Michael
> > 
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Sven
> > >
> > > > On 17. Feb 2018, at 13:21, Michael Tremer via IPFire-Artwork <ipfire-
> > artwork
> > > > @lists.ipfire.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 22:39 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal
> > > > > > supports
> > > > > > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > PayPal should only be visible if "One time" is selected. I added a
> > note
> > > > > for
> > > > > that within Zeplin. For me it doesn't matter on which position it is
> > > > > displayed. I assume if it's placed at the far right position that's
> > the
> > > > > easiest way for Sven.
> > > >
> > > > Agreed.
> > > >
> > > > I will still investigate how we can do the full monty with PayPal as
> > well. I
> > > > do
> > > > not like them at all, but right now > 90% of our donations come through
> > it.
> > > > So
> > > > the decision is easy to make :)
> > > >
> > > > > > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected.
> > > > > > Potentially
> > > > > > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells
> > people
> > > > > > why
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I added a dummytext within the dialogs.
> > > >
> > > > Perfect.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it
> > is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like
> > Debian
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > has:
> > > > > > https://planet.debian.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > I would use "Blog". It's more common these days. Only Grandpas like us
> > > > > knows
> > > > > what "Planet" means ;)
> > > >
> > > > Okay, let's rename it then. I have never considered this before, but it
> > > > actually
> > > > sounds way better to me to call this Blog now.
> > > >
> > > > I will do the backend stuff when Sven is done with the frontend. Or
> > should
> > > > we do
> > > > it the other way round?
> > > >
> > > > What I also saw yesterday, the formatting of the blog should also be
> > used
> > > > for
> > > > the main news like these:
> > > >
> > > >  https://www.ipfire.org/news/ipfire-2-19-core-update-118-released
> > > >
> > > > We also have this sub-page https://www.ipfire.org/news. Not sure what to
> > do
> > > > with
> > > > it. It is not very useful, but without it there is no way to access
> > previous
> > > > news.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly
> > how
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > look.
> > > > > >  https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test
> > > > >
> > > > > Perfect! Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfir
> > e.or
> > > > > g>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 22:47 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > great that things are moving along! You did a lot in the past days
> > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I pushed some updated Donation screens and new ones to Zeplin.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Changelog:
> > > > > > > PayPal added
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal
> > > > > > supports
> > > > > > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Viewport S added
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks very good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dialogs for personal data added
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected.
> > > > > > Potentially
> > > > > > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells
> > people
> > > > > > why
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Success and Failed page added
> > > > > >
> > > > > > !!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > New icons and PayPal Logo added to Assets sheet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we please move the text of "Why should I donate?" and "How
> > much
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > give?" to the bottom next to the FAQ again? I understand that you
> > want
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > information above the "fold". That works OK somehow in Viewport XL
> > but
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > dark sidebar becomes longer and longer in smaller viewports. This
> > > > > > > results
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > lot of unwanted whitespace and the FAQ are far away. As a trade-
> > off I
> > > > > > > kept
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > headlines in the dark sidebar and placed jumpmark icons next to
> > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, please move this to where you think it is best. The text is not
> > > > > > finalised
> > > > > > yet and I will make this work later then. It would just be nice to
> > have
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > area with text that everyone reads and where we encourage people to
> > give
> > > > > > (more
> > > > > > :D) and some smallprint that just has to be there but nobody cares
> > too
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > about.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suppose as soon as Sven has implemented it all, I will check out
> > the
> > > > > > branch
> > > > > > and write the texts and then we merge everything together.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > After I read your last mail it seems to be that the Blog/Planet is
> > > > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > popular. Is this true? If so, should the link to the Planet not a
> > lot
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > prominent? What about place "Planet" or "Blog" in the Topbar?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it
> > is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like
> > Debian
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > has:
> > > > > > https://planet.debian.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is quite a nice news outlet for not too important news that are
> > > > > > mainly
> > > > > > interesting for people who are involved a bit more into the project.
> > > > > > It's
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > development and what we are doing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Layout and design of the Blog is straight forward. I'll focus on
> > this
> > > > > > > now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It
> > > > > > > would help me a lot if you can point me to some sample articles
> > where
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > see ALL different textformatations which are needed. Or write down
> > a
> > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > like: H1, H2, H3, bulletpoints, code, quote, highlight, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly
> > how
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > look.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think I didn't forget anything. But if I did, please let me know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Obviously the blue bar at the top will disappear when a post has
> > been
> > > > > > published
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this is all you need from me right now. Let me know if I can do
> > > > > > anything
> > > > > > else!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me know if there are any questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ip
> > fire
> > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello guys,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > because I am a little bit lost at the moment I would like to
> > restart
> > > > > > > > conversation again and check where everyone is at right now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I had a brief email exchange with Sven and he is a bit busy this
> > > > > > > > weekend
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > should have more time available next week. But I thought in the
> > end
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > easiest to use this list so nobody misses anything.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would still like to push for a release of the website as soon
> > as
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > that doesn't mean I want to build up pressure. I just want to
> > make
> > > > > > > > sure
> > > > > >
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > things are moving a long and that we get a minimum "product"
> > ready
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > > and constantly keep improving this then.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Overall this seems to be a bit bigger than I thought in the
> > > > > > > > beginning,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so we
> > > > > > > > need to break it down a bit further.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So the areas of attention are:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Completing the donation page. Here we need the address inputs
> > as
> > > > > > > > far
> > > > > >
> > > > > > as I
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > see and the mentioned S viewport.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Index & Features look complete for me
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Sven has already fixed the talk pages which are for internal
> > use
> > > > > > > > only
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > think this will do for the moment. I have a few ideas how to
> > make
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > better,
> > > > > > > > but is not a priority for now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * One of the bigger things (in terms of traffic) is the planet.
> > I
> > > > > > > > think
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > should not be too much work to make this "nice". It is working
> > right
> > > > > >
> > > > > > now,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > there is clearly a break of look & feel. But basically it has
> > two
> > > > > > > > pages
> > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > are very similar. I think to make that really nice, this
> > shouldn't
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > >
> > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > extra work to be put in.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So can we put those two things (finishing the donation page &
> > > > > > > > planet) on
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > list for the upcoming few weeks?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is anyone working on other things at the moment? Just shoot me a
> > > > > > > > quick
> > > > > > > > email.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 12:37 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > great that things are moving along...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 23:57 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I did some adjustments on the existing donation pages and
> > added
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > XS
> > > > > > > > > > viewport in Zeplin.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Next up:
> > > > > > > > > > • S viewport to reduce misunderstandings
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What misunderstandings?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > • Dialog (popups) for CC and SEPA form fields
> > > > > > > > > >  • Can you provide the needed information the user has to
> > type
> > > > > > > > > > in?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In all cases people need to type in:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > First Name, Last Name
> > > > > > > > > Company Name (optional)
> > > > > > > > > Address Line 1
> > > > > > > > > Address Line 2
> > > > > > > > > Country (Probably as a dropdown)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We *never* take any credit card or bank account details. That
> > is
> > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > typed in
> > > > > > > > > on the website of the payment provider.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We cannot even verify the address much, but we should make
> > sure
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > typed in something into every field except Address Line 2.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > • Success page
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Question:
> > > > > > > > > > What happens after the submit of CC data? Can you scribble
> > > > > >
> > > > > > something,
> > > > > > > > > > please?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is probably two ways:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > a) The transaction was successful and we should redirect the
> > user
> > > > > > > > > to a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > says "Thank You"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > b) The transaction was not successful and we should show a
> > useful
> > > > > >
> > > > > > error to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > user which we will get from the payment provider. For example
> > that
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > credit
> > > > > > > > > card has been declined or that the payment provider is
> > > > > > > > > experiencing a
> > > > > > > > > temporary
> > > > > > > > > error and that the user should retry in a moment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There should also a button to retry so that people don't have
> > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > submit
> > > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > data again. I think that is necessary to make the entire
> > process
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > >
> > > > > > easy
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > possible.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am not sure if there is a good way to let them choose a
> > > > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > payment
> > > > > > > > > option. People will have to go back and type in everything
> > again.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hope this answers all the questions :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Let me know if there are any questions or concerns.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.trem
> > er(a)i
> > > > > > > > > > pfir
> > > > > >
> > > > > > e.or
> > > > > > > > g>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > thanks for working on this. This is a huge step forward
> > from
> > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > >
> > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > > > before.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I especially appreciate the progress in both, design and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > implement,
> > > > > > > > > > > although
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > is quite a busy time for everyone!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I do have some questions/remarks though:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > * Does the currency selection need to be a dropdown? It
> > feels
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > > > excessive
> > > > > > > > > > > for just two currencies. Just my two cents :)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > * One payment option I must have forgotten is PayPal, but
> > that
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > > > > > for one-time payments. They don't allow recurring payments
> > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Europe.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > * Some things need a bit of rewording. I think I would
> > prefer
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > text
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > under the box (left side) to be on the left hand side of
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > box.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It
> > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > doesn't sound right to me to say "1€ at least", but I
> > didn't
> > > > > > > > > > > find
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > anything
> > > > > > > > > > > better, yet. I will think of that and update you.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 00:25 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Changelog:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Viewport M for donation page added
> > > > > > > > > > > > Minor adjustments and fixed at XL and L
> > > > > > > > > > > > Alignment fixed at some icons (please replace these):
> > > > > > > > > > > > icon-varified
> > > > > > > > > > > > icon-varified-green
> > > > > > > > > > > > icon-wireless
> > > > > > > > > > > > icon-wireless-blue
> > > > > > > > > > > > icon-arrow-down
> > > > > > > > > > > > New icons added:
> > > > > > > > > > > > icon-lock
> > > > > > > > > > > > checkboxes
> > > > > > > > > > > > radiobuttons
> > > > > > > > > > > > amex
> > > > > > > > > > > > mastercard
> > > > > > > > > > > > visa
> > > > > > > > > > > > From Viewport M to XS the top navbar shows always a
> > > > > > > > > > > > background.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Homepage"
> > > > > > > > > > > > and "Features" at Zeplin. That should simplify the code
> > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > avoid
> > > > > > > > bugs I
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > hope.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't it? Please let me know.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <maurice.gesswein
> > > > > > > > @ipf
> > > > > > > > > > > > ir
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > e.or
> > > > > > > > > > > > g> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Viewport XL and L are available at Zeplin. https://zpl
> > .io/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 25N8
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DpW
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Maurice Gesswein
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <maurice.gesswe
> > > > > > > > in(a)i
> > > > > > > > > > > > > pf
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ire.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to personal reasons I was not able to spent that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > >
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > donate page so far. This is an unfinished version in
> > our
> > > > > >
> > > > > > biggest
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > viewport.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rest will follow asap.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nz2ktou84szrya0/Donate%20-
> > %20X
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > L.pn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > g?dl
> > > > > > > > =0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Michael Tremer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I put together some ideas for the donation page.
> > We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically get no donations any more outside of the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wishlist
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frankly way too low. The don't even cover our
> > cost.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And since we a providing a good product here which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saves
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > people a
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > lot of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > course it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone to donate or not, but some people need to
> > be
> > > > > >
> > > > > > reminded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > possibility exists.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we will now add some new features: We will
> > allow
> > > > > >
> > > > > > donations
> > > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > credit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > card
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and standing order to make this really hassle-free 
> > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > >
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donations because some people prefer to give a
> > small
> > > > > >
> > > > > > amount
> > > > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > month
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a big amount once a year.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We will also remove the variety of currencies and
> > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > >
> > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > USD
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will
> > be
> > > > > >
> > > > > > default
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > US
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage
> > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible since we pay less fees.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct
> > debit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donations. We don't support that with PayPal at
> > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > moment,
> > > > > > > > but I
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to implement their API.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That
> > seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > common
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice. We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom
> > option
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enter what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD).
> > If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donation is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount
> > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > buttons.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get the full name and address of the
> > person
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > donates
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tax
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasons and secondly to get the payments through
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > credit
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > card
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > companies validate those against their own
> > database.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We will also collect the email address to get in
> > touch
> > > > > >
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So in the end the process will look like this:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an
> > amount
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > clicking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > button
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and selects the payment type. Click something like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Donate
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit
> > card
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stuff,
> > > > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you
> > page
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is probably a good example and done quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > similar:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  https://donate.mozilla.org/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also written a few new texts that probably
> > need
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > little
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > refinement, but should be a good start:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should I donate?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire.
> > We
> > > > > >
> > > > > > create a
> > > > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firewall
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > distribution that is free to use for everyone
> > anywhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > world.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do that,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we need to provide the infrastructure to
> > distribute it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > users
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the right tools for our developers to help them to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IPFire
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every day.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donations from individuals and corporations are
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > >
> > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > services free for everyone. They pay for hosting,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > advertising,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > purchase
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > equipment and to fund the work of the people
> > behind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > large
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > corporations
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > proprietary solutions and we cannot do that
> > without
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Become a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supporter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > today!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much should I give?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donations range from single digits donations to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hundreds.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > us
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > important
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to give something back to help this project to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > succeed. If
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please do so and encourage others to do so, too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > >
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulties
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to donate or commonly asked questions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There should also be some area for the smallprint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since we
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > need to
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who they are donating to and that we don't do any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > refunds,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Maurice: Could you design a page like this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the
> > JS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frontend bits?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would develop the backend and the interfaces
> > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > payment
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > providers.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> 
> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hi,

On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 16:30 +0100, Sven wrote:
> Hello,
> I push an update online with the donation-page.

Cool.

> It’s working but I’m not really happy with the responsiveness of it.

Why?

> Also I have to recheck the font formatting at the moment it seems wrong on the
> donation page, but will recheck with the other pages and their viewports.
> 
> Can someone explain me again why we need the pop-up box with the address of
> the donator?

Because in Germany we have so many useless laws. We have to pay VAT on
donations, but for that is depends where the "service" is being provided.

> Do we need it all the time or only for the credit card payment?

Every time.

> When someone pays with PayPal that information are already included within
> their PayPal Account.

We optionally can get a "shipping address", but that is not the same. PayPal
otherwise just gives us the email address.

> How does the SEPA transfer work? Via online banking or will it show up the
> bank information like on the Mozilla Donation page?

It will be a direct debit (Lastschrift in German).

The second step will ask for the IBAN and BIC and that is all we need.

> Personally I would prefer a payment method where I have to insert as less
> information as possible.

Same here. I suppose that this will be a big problem here. Maybe we need some
fine-tuning later, but I do not see a way how we get around this in a better
way. But open for any ideas.

> @Maurice can you please include the screens with the overlaying grid on
> zeplin? I have some trouble understanding how many columns the text-blocks on
> the donation page are.

You only sent this email to me. Please copy the list next time.

> 
> Still a lot to do but we are moving forward.

Yes :) Very happy to see the progress here.

The PayPal logo is missing in git.

-Michael

> 
> Greetings,
> Sven
> 
> > On 17. Feb 2018, at 13:21, Michael Tremer via IPFire-Artwork <ipfire-artwork
> > @lists.ipfire.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 22:39 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal
> > > > supports
> > > > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > PayPal should only be visible if "One time" is selected. I added a note
> > > for
> > > that within Zeplin. For me it doesn't matter on which position it is
> > > displayed. I assume if it's placed at the far right position that's the
> > > easiest way for Sven. 
> > 
> > Agreed.
> > 
> > I will still investigate how we can do the full monty with PayPal as well. I
> > do
> > not like them at all, but right now > 90% of our donations come through it.
> > So
> > the decision is easy to make :)
> > 
> > > > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected.
> > > > Potentially
> > > > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells people
> > > > why
> > > > we
> > > > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or
> > > > should
> > > > we
> > > > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I added a dummytext within the dialogs.
> > 
> > Perfect.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it is
> > > > not
> > > > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like Debian
> > > > still
> > > > has:
> > > > https://planet.debian.org/
> > > 
> > > I would use "Blog". It's more common these days. Only Grandpas like us
> > > knows
> > > what "Planet" means ;)
> > 
> > Okay, let's rename it then. I have never considered this before, but it
> > actually
> > sounds way better to me to call this Blog now.
> > 
> > I will do the backend stuff when Sven is done with the frontend. Or should
> > we do
> > it the other way round?
> > 
> > What I also saw yesterday, the formatting of the blog should also be used
> > for
> > the main news like these:
> > 
> >  https://www.ipfire.org/news/ipfire-2-19-core-update-118-released
> > 
> > We also have this sub-page https://www.ipfire.org/news. Not sure what to do
> > with
> > it. It is not very useful, but without it there is no way to access previous
> > news.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That
> > > > should
> > > > also
> > > > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly how
> > > > it
> > > > will
> > > > look.
> > > >  https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test
> > > 
> > > Perfect! Thanks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.or
> > > g>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 22:47 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > Hey folks,
> > > > 
> > > > great that things are moving along! You did a lot in the past days :)
> > > > 
> > > > > I pushed some updated Donation screens and new ones to Zeplin.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Changelog:
> > > > > PayPal added
> > > > 
> > > > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal
> > > > supports
> > > > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us.
> > > > 
> > > > > Viewport S added
> > > > 
> > > > Looks very good.
> > > > 
> > > > > Dialogs for personal data added
> > > > 
> > > > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected.
> > > > Potentially
> > > > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells people
> > > > why
> > > > we
> > > > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or
> > > > should
> > > > we
> > > > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page?
> > > > 
> > > > > Success and Failed page added
> > > > 
> > > > !!!
> > > > 
> > > > > New icons and PayPal Logo added to Assets sheet.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can we please move the text of "Why should I donate?" and "How much
> > > > > should
> > > > 
> > > > I
> > > > > give?" to the bottom next to the FAQ again? I understand that you want
> > > > > all
> > > > 
> > > > the
> > > > > information above the "fold". That works OK somehow in Viewport XL but
> > > > > the
> > > > > dark sidebar becomes longer and longer in smaller viewports. This
> > > > > results
> > > > 
> > > > in a
> > > > > lot of unwanted whitespace and the FAQ are far away. As a trade-off I
> > > > > kept
> > > > 
> > > > the
> > > > > headlines in the dark sidebar and placed jumpmark icons next to it.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, please move this to where you think it is best. The text is not
> > > > finalised
> > > > yet and I will make this work later then. It would just be nice to have
> > > > some
> > > > area with text that everyone reads and where we encourage people to give
> > > > (more
> > > > :D) and some smallprint that just has to be there but nobody cares too
> > > > much
> > > > about.
> > > > 
> > > > I suppose as soon as Sven has implemented it all, I will check out the
> > > > branch
> > > > and write the texts and then we merge everything together.
> > > > 
> > > > > After I read your last mail it seems to be that the Blog/Planet is
> > > > > pretty
> > > > > popular. Is this true? If so, should the link to the Planet not a lot
> > > > > more
> > > > > prominent? What about place "Planet" or "Blog" in the Topbar?
> > > > 
> > > > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it is
> > > > not
> > > > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like Debian
> > > > still
> > > > has:
> > > > https://planet.debian.org/
> > > > 
> > > > It is quite a nice news outlet for not too important news that are
> > > > mainly
> > > > interesting for people who are involved a bit more into the project.
> > > > It's
> > > > about
> > > > development and what we are doing.
> > > > 
> > > > > Layout and design of the Blog is straight forward. I'll focus on this
> > > > > now.
> > > > 
> > > > It
> > > > > would help me a lot if you can point me to some sample articles where
> > > > > I
> > > > 
> > > > can
> > > > > see ALL different textformatations which are needed. Or write down a
> > > > > list
> > > > > like: H1, H2, H3, bulletpoints, code, quote, highlight, etc.
> > > > 
> > > > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That
> > > > should
> > > > also
> > > > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly how
> > > > it
> > > > will
> > > > look.
> > > > 
> > > >  https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test
> > > > 
> > > > I think I didn't forget anything. But if I did, please let me know.
> > > > 
> > > > Obviously the blue bar at the top will disappear when a post has been
> > > > published
> > > > :)
> > > > 
> > > > Hope this is all you need from me right now. Let me know if I can do
> > > > anything
> > > > else!
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > > Let me know if there are any questions.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire
> > > > > .org
> > > > > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hello guys,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > because I am a little bit lost at the moment I would like to restart
> > > > > > conversation again and check where everyone is at right now.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I had a brief email exchange with Sven and he is a bit busy this
> > > > > > weekend
> > > > 
> > > > but
> > > > > > should have more time available next week. But I thought in the end
> > > > > > it
> > > > 
> > > > is
> > > > > > easiest to use this list so nobody misses anything.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I would still like to push for a release of the website as soon as
> > > > > > we
> > > > 
> > > > can,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > that doesn't mean I want to build up pressure. I just want to make
> > > > > > sure
> > > > 
> > > > that
> > > > > > things are moving a long and that we get a minimum "product" ready
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > release
> > > > > > and constantly keep improving this then.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Overall this seems to be a bit bigger than I thought in the
> > > > > > beginning,
> > > > 
> > > > so we
> > > > > > need to break it down a bit further.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So the areas of attention are:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * Completing the donation page. Here we need the address inputs as
> > > > > > far
> > > > 
> > > > as I
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > see and the mentioned S viewport.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * Index & Features look complete for me
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * Sven has already fixed the talk pages which are for internal use
> > > > > > only
> > > > 
> > > > and
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > think this will do for the moment. I have a few ideas how to make
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > better,
> > > > > > but is not a priority for now.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > * One of the bigger things (in terms of traffic) is the planet. I
> > > > > > think
> > > > 
> > > > this
> > > > > > should not be too much work to make this "nice". It is working right
> > > > 
> > > > now,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > there is clearly a break of look & feel. But basically it has two
> > > > > > pages
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > are very similar. I think to make that really nice, this shouldn't
> > > > > > be
> > > > 
> > > > too
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > extra work to be put in.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So can we put those two things (finishing the donation page &
> > > > > > planet) on
> > > > 
> > > > the
> > > > > > list for the upcoming few weeks?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is anyone working on other things at the moment? Just shoot me a
> > > > > > quick
> > > > > > email.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 12:37 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > great that things are moving along...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 23:57 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I did some adjustments on the existing donation pages and added
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > 
> > > > XS
> > > > > > > > viewport in Zeplin.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Next up:
> > > > > > > > • S viewport to reduce misunderstandings
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What misunderstandings?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > • Dialog (popups) for CC and SEPA form fields
> > > > > > > >  • Can you provide the needed information the user has to type
> > > > > > > > in?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In all cases people need to type in:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > First Name, Last Name
> > > > > > > Company Name (optional)
> > > > > > > Address Line 1
> > > > > > > Address Line 2
> > > > > > > Country (Probably as a dropdown)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We *never* take any credit card or bank account details. That is
> > > > > > > only
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > typed in
> > > > > > > on the website of the payment provider.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We cannot even verify the address much, but we should make sure
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > > typed in something into every field except Address Line 2.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > • Success page
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Question:
> > > > > > > > What happens after the submit of CC data? Can you scribble
> > > > 
> > > > something,
> > > > > > > > please?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There is probably two ways:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > a) The transaction was successful and we should redirect the user
> > > > > > > to a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > page
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > says "Thank You"
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > b) The transaction was not successful and we should show a useful
> > > > 
> > > > error to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > user which we will get from the payment provider. For example that
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > credit
> > > > > > > card has been declined or that the payment provider is
> > > > > > > experiencing a
> > > > > > > temporary
> > > > > > > error and that the user should retry in a moment.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There should also a button to retry so that people don't have to
> > > > 
> > > > submit
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > > data again. I think that is necessary to make the entire process
> > > > > > > as
> > > > 
> > > > easy
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > possible.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I am not sure if there is a good way to let them choose a
> > > > > > > different
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > payment
> > > > > > > option. People will have to go back and type in everything again.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hope this answers all the questions :)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Let me know if there are any questions or concerns.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)i
> > > > > > > > pfir
> > > > 
> > > > e.or
> > > > > > g>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > thanks for working on this. This is a huge step forward from
> > > > > > > > > what
> > > > 
> > > > he
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > before.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I especially appreciate the progress in both, design and
> > > > 
> > > > implement,
> > > > > > > > > although
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > is quite a busy time for everyone!
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I do have some questions/remarks though:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > * Does the currency selection need to be a dropdown? It feels
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > 
> > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > excessive
> > > > > > > > > for just two currencies. Just my two cents :)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > * One payment option I must have forgotten is PayPal, but that
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > 
> > > > only
> > > > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > > > for one-time payments. They don't allow recurring payments in
> > > > 
> > > > Europe.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > * Some things need a bit of rewording. I think I would prefer
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > 
> > > > text
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > under the box (left side) to be on the left hand side of the
> > > > > > > > > box.
> > > > 
> > > > It
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > doesn't sound right to me to say "1€ at least", but I didn't
> > > > > > > > > find
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > anything
> > > > > > > > > better, yet. I will think of that and update you.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 00:25 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Changelog:
> > > > > > > > > > Viewport M for donation page added
> > > > > > > > > > Minor adjustments and fixed at XL and L
> > > > > > > > > > Alignment fixed at some icons (please replace these):
> > > > > > > > > > icon-varified
> > > > > > > > > > icon-varified-green
> > > > > > > > > > icon-wireless
> > > > > > > > > > icon-wireless-blue
> > > > > > > > > > icon-arrow-down
> > > > > > > > > > New icons added:
> > > > > > > > > > icon-lock
> > > > > > > > > > checkboxes
> > > > > > > > > > radiobuttons
> > > > > > > > > > amex
> > > > > > > > > > mastercard
> > > > > > > > > > visa
> > > > > > > > > > From Viewport M to XS the top navbar shows always a
> > > > > > > > > > background.
> > > > 
> > > > See
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "Homepage"
> > > > > > > > > > and "Features" at Zeplin. That should simplify the code and
> > > > 
> > > > avoid
> > > > > > bugs I
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > hope.
> > > > > > > > > > Doesn't it? Please let me know.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Maurice Gesswein
> > > > 
> > > > <maurice.gesswein
> > > > > > @ipf
> > > > > > > > > > ir
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > e.or
> > > > > > > > > > g> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Viewport XL and L are available at Zeplin. https://zpl.io/
> > > > > > > > > > > 25N8
> > > > 
> > > > DpW
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Maurice Gesswein
> > > > 
> > > > <maurice.gesswe
> > > > > > in(a)i
> > > > > > > > > > > pf
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ire.
> > > > > > > > > > > org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > due to personal reasons I was not able to spent that
> > > > > > > > > > > > much
> > > > 
> > > > time
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > donate page so far. This is an unfinished version in our
> > > > 
> > > > biggest
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > viewport.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Rest will follow asap.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nz2ktou84szrya0/Donate%20-%20X
> > > > > > > > > > > > L.pn
> > > > 
> > > > g?dl
> > > > > > =0
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Michael Tremer
> > > > 
> > > > <michael.tremer@
> > > > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I put together some ideas for the donation page. We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > 
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > basically get no donations any more outside of the
> > > > 
> > > > wishlist
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > > > > > those are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > frankly way too low. The don't even cover our cost.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > And since we a providing a good product here which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > saves
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > people a
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > lot of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > course it
> > > > 
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone to donate or not, but some people need to be
> > > > 
> > > > reminded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > possibility exists.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So we will now add some new features: We will allow
> > > > 
> > > > donations
> > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > credit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > card
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and standing order to make this really hassle-free and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > 
> > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > donations because some people prefer to give a small
> > > > 
> > > > amount
> > > > > > each
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > month
> > > > > > > > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of a big amount once a year.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > We will also remove the variety of currencies and just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > use
> > > > 
> > > > EUR
> > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > > > > USD
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest
> > > > > > > > > > > > > depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will be
> > > > 
> > > > default
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > US
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > use
> > > > > > EUR
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > possible since we pay less fees.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct debit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > donations. We don't support that with PayPal at the
> > > > 
> > > > moment,
> > > > > > but I
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > need to implement their API.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > be
> > > > > > common
> > > > > > > > > > > > > practice. We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom option
> > > > > > > > > > > > > where
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > enter what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD). If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > donation is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > buttons.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get the full name and address of the person
> > > > > > > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > donates
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > tax
> > > > > > > > > > > > > reasons and secondly to get the payments through
> > > > > > > > > > > > > because
> > > > 
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > credit
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > card
> > > > > > > > > > > > > companies validate those against their own database.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > We will also collect the email address to get in touch
> > > > 
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So in the end the process will look like this:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an amount
> > > > > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > clicking
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > button
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and selects the payment type. Click something like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Donate
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit card
> > > > 
> > > > stuff,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you page
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This is probably a good example and done quite
> > > > > > > > > > > > > similar:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  https://donate.mozilla.org/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also written a few new texts that probably need
> > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > little
> > > > > > > > > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > refinement, but should be a good start:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should I donate?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire. We
> > > > 
> > > > create a
> > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > > > > > > firewall
> > > > > > > > > > > > > distribution that is free to use for everyone anywhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > 
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > world.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > To
> > > > > > > > > > > > > do that,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we need to provide the infrastructure to distribute it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > users
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the right tools for our developers to help them to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > make
> > > > 
> > > > IPFire
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > > > > every day.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Donations from individuals and corporations are the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > 
> > > > way
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of our
> > > > > > > > > > > > > services free for everyone. They pay for hosting,
> > > > 
> > > > advertising,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > purchase
> > > > > > > > > > > > > equipment and to fund the work of the people behind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > large
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > corporations
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > proprietary solutions and we cannot do that without
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Become a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > supporter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > today!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > How much should I give?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Donations range from single digits donations to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hundreds.
> > > > 
> > > > For
> > > > > > us
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > important
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to give something back to help this project to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > succeed. If
> > > > 
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > want
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > help,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > please do so and encourage others to do so, too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > 
> > > > have
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulties
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to donate or commonly asked questions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There should also be some area for the smallprint
> > > > > > > > > > > > > since we
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > need to
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > > > who they are donating to and that we don't do any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > refunds,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > @Maurice: Could you design a page like this?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > @Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the JS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > 
> > > > all
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > frontend bits?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I would develop the backend and the interfaces with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > payment
> > > > > > > > > > > > > providers.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hi,

On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 22:39 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal supports
> > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us.
> 
>  
> PayPal should only be visible if "One time" is selected. I added a note for
> that within Zeplin. For me it doesn't matter on which position it is
> displayed. I assume if it's placed at the far right position that's the
> easiest way for Sven. 

Agreed.

I will still investigate how we can do the full monty with PayPal as well. I do
not like them at all, but right now > 90% of our donations come through it. So
the decision is easy to make :)

> > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected.
> > Potentially
> > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells people why
> > we
> > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or should
> > we
> > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page?
> 
>  
> I added a dummytext within the dialogs.

Perfect.

>  
> > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it is not
> > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like Debian still
> > has:
> > https://planet.debian.org/
> 
> I would use "Blog". It's more common these days. Only Grandpas like us knows
> what "Planet" means ;)

Okay, let's rename it then. I have never considered this before, but it actually
sounds way better to me to call this Blog now.

I will do the backend stuff when Sven is done with the frontend. Or should we do
it the other way round?

What I also saw yesterday, the formatting of the blog should also be used for
the main news like these:

  https://www.ipfire.org/news/ipfire-2-19-core-update-118-released

We also have this sub-page https://www.ipfire.org/news. Not sure what to do with
it. It is not very useful, but without it there is no way to access previous
news.

> 
> > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That should
> > also
> > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly how it
> > will
> > look.
> >   https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test
> 
> Perfect! Thanks.
>  
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 22:47 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > Hey folks,
> > 
> > great that things are moving along! You did a lot in the past days :)
> > 
> > > I pushed some updated Donation screens and new ones to Zeplin.
> > >
> > > Changelog:
> > > PayPal added
> > 
> > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal supports
> > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us.
> > 
> > > Viewport S added
> > 
> > Looks very good.
> > 
> > > Dialogs for personal data added
> > 
> > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected.
> > Potentially
> > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells people why
> > we
> > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or should
> > we
> > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page?
> > 
> > > Success and Failed page added
> > 
> > !!!
> > 
> > > New icons and PayPal Logo added to Assets sheet.
> > >
> > > Can we please move the text of "Why should I donate?" and "How much should
> > I
> > > give?" to the bottom next to the FAQ again? I understand that you want all
> > the
> > > information above the "fold". That works OK somehow in Viewport XL but the
> > > dark sidebar becomes longer and longer in smaller viewports. This results
> > in a
> > > lot of unwanted whitespace and the FAQ are far away. As a trade-off I kept
> > the
> > > headlines in the dark sidebar and placed jumpmark icons next to it.
> > 
> > Yes, please move this to where you think it is best. The text is not
> > finalised
> > yet and I will make this work later then. It would just be nice to have some
> > area with text that everyone reads and where we encourage people to give
> > (more
> > :D) and some smallprint that just has to be there but nobody cares too much
> > about.
> > 
> > I suppose as soon as Sven has implemented it all, I will check out the
> > branch
> > and write the texts and then we merge everything together.
> > 
> > > After I read your last mail it seems to be that the Blog/Planet is pretty
> > > popular. Is this true? If so, should the link to the Planet not a lot more
> > > prominent? What about place "Planet" or "Blog" in the Topbar?
> > 
> > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it is not
> > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like Debian still
> > has:
> > https://planet.debian.org/
> > 
> > It is quite a nice news outlet for not too important news that are mainly
> > interesting for people who are involved a bit more into the project. It's
> > about
> > development and what we are doing.
> > 
> > > Layout and design of the Blog is straight forward. I'll focus on this now.
> > It
> > > would help me a lot if you can point me to some sample articles where I
> > can
> > > see ALL different textformatations which are needed. Or write down a list
> > > like: H1, H2, H3, bulletpoints, code, quote, highlight, etc.
> > 
> > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That should
> > also
> > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly how it
> > will
> > look.
> > 
> >   https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test
> > 
> > I think I didn't forget anything. But if I did, please let me know.
> > 
> > Obviously the blue bar at the top will disappear when a post has been
> > published
> > :)
> > 
> > Hope this is all you need from me right now. Let me know if I can do
> > anything
> > else!
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > > Let me know if there are any questions.
> > >
> > > Best, Maurice
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hello guys,
> > > >
> > > > because I am a little bit lost at the moment I would like to restart
> > > > conversation again and check where everyone is at right now.
> > > >
> > > > I had a brief email exchange with Sven and he is a bit busy this weekend
> > but
> > > > should have more time available next week. But I thought in the end it
> > is
> > > > easiest to use this list so nobody misses anything.
> > > >
> > > > I would still like to push for a release of the website as soon as we
> > can,
> > > > but
> > > > that doesn't mean I want to build up pressure. I just want to make sure
> > that
> > > > things are moving a long and that we get a minimum "product" ready to
> > > > release
> > > > and constantly keep improving this then.
> > > >
> > > > Overall this seems to be a bit bigger than I thought in the beginning,
> > so we
> > > > need to break it down a bit further.
> > > >
> > > > So the areas of attention are:
> > > >
> > > > * Completing the donation page. Here we need the address inputs as far
> > as I
> > > > can
> > > > see and the mentioned S viewport.
> > > >
> > > > * Index & Features look complete for me
> > > >
> > > > * Sven has already fixed the talk pages which are for internal use only
> > and
> > > > I
> > > > think this will do for the moment. I have a few ideas how to make this
> > > > better,
> > > > but is not a priority for now.
> > > >
> > > > * One of the bigger things (in terms of traffic) is the planet. I think
> > this
> > > > should not be too much work to make this "nice". It is working right
> > now,
> > > > but
> > > > there is clearly a break of look & feel. But basically it has two pages
> > > > which
> > > > are very similar. I think to make that really nice, this shouldn't be
> > too
> > > > much
> > > > extra work to be put in.
> > > >
> > > > So can we put those two things (finishing the donation page & planet) on
> > the
> > > > list for the upcoming few weeks?
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone working on other things at the moment? Just shoot me a quick
> > > > email.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Michael
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 12:37 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > great that things are moving along...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 23:57 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did some adjustments on the existing donation pages and added the
> > XS
> > > > > > viewport in Zeplin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Next up:
> > > > > > • S viewport to reduce misunderstandings
> > > > >
> > > > > What misunderstandings?
> > > > >
> > > > > > • Dialog (popups) for CC and SEPA form fields
> > > > > >   • Can you provide the needed information the user has to type in?
> > > > >
> > > > > In all cases people need to type in:
> > > > >
> > > > > First Name, Last Name
> > > > > Company Name (optional)
> > > > > Address Line 1
> > > > > Address Line 2
> > > > > Country (Probably as a dropdown)
> > > > >
> > > > > We *never* take any credit card or bank account details. That is only
> > > > typed in
> > > > > on the website of the payment provider.
> > > > >
> > > > > We cannot even verify the address much, but we should make sure that
> > > > people
> > > > > typed in something into every field except Address Line 2.
> > > > >
> > > > > > • Success page
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Question:
> > > > > > What happens after the submit of CC data? Can you scribble
> > something,
> > > > > > please?
> > > > >
> > > > > There is probably two ways:
> > > > >
> > > > > a) The transaction was successful and we should redirect the user to a
> > > > page
> > > > > that
> > > > > says "Thank You"
> > > > >
> > > > > b) The transaction was not successful and we should show a useful
> > error to
> > > > the
> > > > > user which we will get from the payment provider. For example that the
> > > > credit
> > > > > card has been declined or that the payment provider is experiencing a
> > > > > temporary
> > > > > error and that the user should retry in a moment.
> > > > >
> > > > > There should also a button to retry so that people don't have to
> > submit
> > > > their
> > > > > data again. I think that is necessary to make the entire process as
> > easy
> > > > as
> > > > > possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure if there is a good way to let them choose a different
> > > > payment
> > > > > option. People will have to go back and type in everything again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this answers all the questions :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > -Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me know if there are any questions or concerns.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Maurice
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfir
> > e.or
> > > > g>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks for working on this. This is a huge step forward from what
> > he
> > > > have
> > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > before.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I especially appreciate the progress in both, design and
> > implement,
> > > > > > > although
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > is quite a busy time for everyone!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do have some questions/remarks though:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * Does the currency selection need to be a dropdown? It feels a
> > bit
> > > > > > > excessive
> > > > > > > for just two currencies. Just my two cents :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * One payment option I must have forgotten is PayPal, but that is
> > only
> > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > for one-time payments. They don't allow recurring payments in
> > Europe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * Some things need a bit of rewording. I think I would prefer the
> > text
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > under the box (left side) to be on the left hand side of the box.
> > It
> > > > also
> > > > > > > doesn't sound right to me to say "1€ at least", but I didn't find
> > > > anything
> > > > > > > better, yet. I will think of that and update you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 00:25 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Changelog:
> > > > > > > > Viewport M for donation page added
> > > > > > > > Minor adjustments and fixed at XL and L
> > > > > > > > Alignment fixed at some icons (please replace these):
> > > > > > > > icon-varified
> > > > > > > > icon-varified-green
> > > > > > > > icon-wireless
> > > > > > > > icon-wireless-blue
> > > > > > > > icon-arrow-down
> > > > > > > > New icons added:
> > > > > > > > icon-lock
> > > > > > > > checkboxes
> > > > > > > > radiobuttons
> > > > > > > > amex
> > > > > > > > mastercard
> > > > > > > > visa
> > > > > > > > From Viewport M to XS the top navbar shows always a background.
> > See
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Homepage"
> > > > > > > > and "Features" at Zeplin. That should simplify the code and
> > avoid
> > > > bugs I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hope.
> > > > > > > > Doesn't it? Please let me know.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Maurice Gesswein
> > <maurice.gesswein
> > > > @ipf
> > > > > > > > ir
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > e.or
> > > > > > > > g> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Viewport XL and L are available at Zeplin. https://zpl.io/25N8
> > DpW
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Maurice Gesswein
> > <maurice.gesswe
> > > > in(a)i
> > > > > > > > > pf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ire.
> > > > > > > > > org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > due to personal reasons I was not able to spent that much
> > time
> > > > into
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > donate page so far. This is an unfinished version in our
> > biggest
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > viewport.
> > > > > > > > > > Rest will follow asap.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nz2ktou84szrya0/Donate%20-%20XL.pn
> > g?dl
> > > > =0
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Michael Tremer
> > <michael.tremer@
> > > > ipfi
> > > > > > > > > > re
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I put together some ideas for the donation page. We have
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > > that we
> > > > > > > > > > > basically get no donations any more outside of the
> > wishlist
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > > > those are
> > > > > > > > > > > frankly way too low. The don't even cover our cost.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > And since we a providing a good product here which saves
> > > > people a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > lot of
> > > > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > > > we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of course it
> > is
> > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > everyone to donate or not, but some people need to be
> > reminded
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > possibility exists.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So we will now add some new features: We will allow
> > donations
> > > > via
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > credit
> > > > > > > > > > > card
> > > > > > > > > > > and standing order to make this really hassle-free and we
> > will
> > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > donations because some people prefer to give a small
> > amount
> > > > each
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > month
> > > > > > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > > > > of a big amount once a year.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > We will also remove the variety of currencies and just use
> > EUR
> > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > > USD
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > suggest
> > > > > > > > > > > depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will be
> > default
> > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > US
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage people to
> > use
> > > > EUR
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > ever
> > > > > > > > > > > possible since we pay less fees.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct debit which
> > > > support
> > > > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > donations. We don't support that with PayPal at the
> > moment,
> > > > but I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > I will
> > > > > > > > > > > need to implement their API.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That seems to
> > be
> > > > common
> > > > > > > > > > > practice. We
> > > > > > > > > > > should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom option where
> > > > people
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > enter what
> > > > > > > > > > > ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD). If a
> > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > > > donation is
> > > > > > > > > > > picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount on those
> > > > > > > > > > > buttons.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > We have to get the full name and address of the person who
> > > > donates
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > tax
> > > > > > > > > > > reasons and secondly to get the payments through because
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > credit
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > card
> > > > > > > > > > > companies validate those against their own database.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > We will also collect the email address to get in touch
> > with
> > > > > > > > > > > people.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So in the end the process will look like this:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an amount by
> > > > clicking
> > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > button
> > > > > > > > > > > and selects the payment type. Click something like "Donate
> > > > Now".
> > > > > > > > > > > 2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address.
> > > > > > > > > > > 3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit card
> > stuff,
> > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > > > > 4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you page
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This is probably a good example and done quite similar:
> > > > > > > > > > >   https://donate.mozilla.org/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have also written a few new texts that probably need a
> > > > little
> > > > > > > > > > > bit
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > refinement, but should be a good start:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Why should I donate?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire. We
> > create a
> > > > free
> > > > > > > > > > > firewall
> > > > > > > > > > > distribution that is free to use for everyone anywhere in
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > world.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To
> > > > > > > > > > > do that,
> > > > > > > > > > > we need to provide the infrastructure to distribute it to
> > our
> > > > > > > > > > > users
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > > > > the right tools for our developers to help them to make
> > IPFire
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > > > every day.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Donations from individuals and corporations are the only
> > way
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > of our
> > > > > > > > > > > services free for everyone. They pay for hosting,
> > advertising,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > purchase
> > > > > > > > > > > equipment and to fund the work of the people behind it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by large
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > corporations
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > proprietary solutions and we cannot do that without you.
> > > > Become a
> > > > > > > > > > > supporter
> > > > > > > > > > > today!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How much should I give?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Donations range from single digits donations to hundreds.
> > For
> > > > us
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > important
> > > > > > > > > > > to give something back to help this project to succeed. If
> > you
> > > > > > > > > > > want
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > help,
> > > > > > > > > > > please do so and encourage others to do so, too.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if people
> > have
> > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > difficulties
> > > > > > > > > > > to donate or commonly asked questions.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > There should also be some area for the smallprint since we
> > > > need to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tell
> > > > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > > > who they are donating to and that we don't do any refunds,
> > > > etc.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > @Maurice: Could you design a page like this?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > @Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the JS and
> > all
> > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > frontend bits?
> > > > > > > > > > > I would develop the backend and the interfaces with the
> > > > payment
> > > > > > > > > > > providers.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> 
> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello,

On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 22:47 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> Hey folks,

great that things are moving along! You did a lot in the past days :)

> I pushed some updated Donation screens and new ones to Zeplin.
> 
> Changelog:
> PayPal added

Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal supports
recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us.

> Viewport S added

Looks very good.

> Dialogs for personal data added

This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected. Potentially
we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells people why we
need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or should we
put that into the smallprint on the main donation page?

> Success and Failed page added

!!!

> New icons and PayPal Logo added to Assets sheet.
> 
> Can we please move the text of "Why should I donate?" and "How much should I
> give?" to the bottom next to the FAQ again? I understand that you want all the
> information above the "fold". That works OK somehow in Viewport XL but the
> dark sidebar becomes longer and longer in smaller viewports. This results in a
> lot of unwanted whitespace and the FAQ are far away. As a trade-off I kept the
> headlines in the dark sidebar and placed jumpmark icons next to it.

Yes, please move this to where you think it is best. The text is not finalised
yet and I will make this work later then. It would just be nice to have some
area with text that everyone reads and where we encourage people to give (more
:D) and some smallprint that just has to be there but nobody cares too much
about.

I suppose as soon as Sven has implemented it all, I will check out the branch
and write the texts and then we merge everything together.

> After I read your last mail it seems to be that the Blog/Planet is pretty
> popular. Is this true? If so, should the link to the Planet not a lot more
> prominent? What about place "Planet" or "Blog" in the Topbar?

Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it is not
really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like Debian still has:
https://planet.debian.org/

It is quite a nice news outlet for not too important news that are mainly
interesting for people who are involved a bit more into the project. It's about
development and what we are doing.

> Layout and design of the Blog is straight forward. I'll focus on this now. It
> would help me a lot if you can point me to some sample articles where I can
> see ALL different textformatations which are needed. Or write down a list
> like: H1, H2, H3, bulletpoints, code, quote, highlight, etc.

I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That should also
help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly how it will
look.

  https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test

I think I didn't forget anything. But if I did, please let me know.

Obviously the blue bar at the top will disappear when a post has been published
:)

Hope this is all you need from me right now. Let me know if I can do anything
else!

Best,
-Michael

> Let me know if there are any questions.
> 
> Best, Maurice
> 
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> wrote:
> > Hello guys,
> > 
> > because I am a little bit lost at the moment I would like to restart
> > conversation again and check where everyone is at right now.
> > 
> > I had a brief email exchange with Sven and he is a bit busy this weekend but
> > should have more time available next week. But I thought in the end it is
> > easiest to use this list so nobody misses anything.
> > 
> > I would still like to push for a release of the website as soon as we can,
> > but
> > that doesn't mean I want to build up pressure. I just want to make sure that
> > things are moving a long and that we get a minimum "product" ready to
> > release
> > and constantly keep improving this then.
> > 
> > Overall this seems to be a bit bigger than I thought in the beginning, so we
> > need to break it down a bit further.
> > 
> > So the areas of attention are:
> > 
> > * Completing the donation page. Here we need the address inputs as far as I
> > can
> > see and the mentioned S viewport.
> > 
> > * Index & Features look complete for me
> > 
> > * Sven has already fixed the talk pages which are for internal use only and
> > I
> > think this will do for the moment. I have a few ideas how to make this
> > better,
> > but is not a priority for now.
> > 
> > * One of the bigger things (in terms of traffic) is the planet. I think this
> > should not be too much work to make this "nice". It is working right now,
> > but
> > there is clearly a break of look & feel. But basically it has two pages
> > which
> > are very similar. I think to make that really nice, this shouldn't be too
> > much
> > extra work to be put in.
> > 
> > So can we put those two things (finishing the donation page & planet) on the
> > list for the upcoming few weeks?
> > 
> > Is anyone working on other things at the moment? Just shoot me a quick
> > email.
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 12:37 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > great that things are moving along...
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 23:57 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I did some adjustments on the existing donation pages and added the XS
> > > > viewport in Zeplin.
> > > >
> > > > Next up:
> > > > • S viewport to reduce misunderstandings
> > >
> > > What misunderstandings?
> > >
> > > > • Dialog (popups) for CC and SEPA form fields
> > > >   • Can you provide the needed information the user has to type in?
> > >
> > > In all cases people need to type in:
> > >
> > > First Name, Last Name
> > > Company Name (optional)
> > > Address Line 1
> > > Address Line 2
> > > Country (Probably as a dropdown)
> > >
> > > We *never* take any credit card or bank account details. That is only
> > typed in
> > > on the website of the payment provider.
> > >
> > > We cannot even verify the address much, but we should make sure that
> > people
> > > typed in something into every field except Address Line 2.
> > >
> > > > • Success page
> > > >
> > > > Question:
> > > > What happens after the submit of CC data? Can you scribble something,
> > > > please?
> > >
> > > There is probably two ways:
> > >
> > > a) The transaction was successful and we should redirect the user to a
> > page
> > > that
> > > says "Thank You"
> > >
> > > b) The transaction was not successful and we should show a useful error to
> > the
> > > user which we will get from the payment provider. For example that the
> > credit
> > > card has been declined or that the payment provider is experiencing a
> > > temporary
> > > error and that the user should retry in a moment.
> > >
> > > There should also a button to retry so that people don't have to submit
> > their
> > > data again. I think that is necessary to make the entire process as easy
> > as
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > I am not sure if there is a good way to let them choose a different
> > payment
> > > option. People will have to go back and type in everything again.
> > >
> > > Hope this answers all the questions :)
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > -Michael
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Let me know if there are any questions or concerns.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Maurice
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.or
> > g>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for working on this. This is a huge step forward from what he
> > have
> > > > > had
> > > > > before.
> > > > >
> > > > > I especially appreciate the progress in both, design and implement,
> > > > > although
> > > > > it
> > > > > is quite a busy time for everyone!
> > > > >
> > > > > I do have some questions/remarks though:
> > > > >
> > > > > * Does the currency selection need to be a dropdown? It feels a bit
> > > > > excessive
> > > > > for just two currencies. Just my two cents :)
> > > > >
> > > > > * One payment option I must have forgotten is PayPal, but that is only
> > > > > available
> > > > > for one-time payments. They don't allow recurring payments in Europe.
> > > > >
> > > > > * Some things need a bit of rewording. I think I would prefer the text
> > > > > that
> > > > > is
> > > > > under the box (left side) to be on the left hand side of the box. It
> > also
> > > > > doesn't sound right to me to say "1€ at least", but I didn't find
> > anything
> > > > > better, yet. I will think of that and update you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > -Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 00:25 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Changelog:
> > > > > > Viewport M for donation page added
> > > > > > Minor adjustments and fixed at XL and L
> > > > > > Alignment fixed at some icons (please replace these):
> > > > > > icon-varified
> > > > > > icon-varified-green
> > > > > > icon-wireless
> > > > > > icon-wireless-blue
> > > > > > icon-arrow-down
> > > > > > New icons added:
> > > > > > icon-lock
> > > > > > checkboxes
> > > > > > radiobuttons
> > > > > > amex
> > > > > > mastercard
> > > > > > visa
> > > > > > From Viewport M to XS the top navbar shows always a background. See
> > > > >
> > > > > "Homepage"
> > > > > > and "Features" at Zeplin. That should simplify the code and avoid
> > bugs I
> > > > >
> > > > > hope.
> > > > > > Doesn't it? Please let me know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein
> > @ipf
> > > > > > ir
> > > > >
> > > > > e.or
> > > > > > g> wrote:
> > > > > > > Viewport XL and L are available at Zeplin. https://zpl.io/25N8DpW
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswe
> > in(a)i
> > > > > > > pf
> > > > >
> > > > > ire.
> > > > > > > org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > due to personal reasons I was not able to spent that much time
> > into
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > donate page so far. This is an unfinished version in our biggest
> > > > >
> > > > > viewport.
> > > > > > > > Rest will follow asap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nz2ktou84szrya0/Donate%20-%20XL.png?dl
> > =0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@
> > ipfi
> > > > > > > > re
> > > > >
> > > > > .org
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I put together some ideas for the donation page. We have the
> > > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > that we
> > > > > > > > > basically get no donations any more outside of the wishlist
> > and
> > > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > those are
> > > > > > > > > frankly way too low. The don't even cover our cost.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And since we a providing a good product here which saves
> > people a
> > > > >
> > > > > lot of
> > > > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > > > we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of course it is
> > > > > > > > > still
> > > > >
> > > > > free
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > everyone to donate or not, but some people need to be reminded
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > >
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > possibility exists.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So we will now add some new features: We will allow donations
> > via
> > > > >
> > > > > credit
> > > > > > > > > card
> > > > > > > > > and standing order to make this really hassle-free and we will
> > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > donations because some people prefer to give a small amount
> > each
> > > > >
> > > > > month
> > > > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > > of a big amount once a year.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We will also remove the variety of currencies and just use EUR
> > &
> > > > > > > > > USD
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > suggest
> > > > > > > > > depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will be default
> > for
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > US
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage people to use
> > EUR
> > > > >
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > ever
> > > > > > > > > possible since we pay less fees.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct debit which
> > support
> > > > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > > > donations. We don't support that with PayPal at the moment,
> > but I
> > > > >
> > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > I will
> > > > > > > > > need to implement their API.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That seems to be
> > common
> > > > > > > > > practice. We
> > > > > > > > > should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom option where
> > people
> > > > >
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > enter what
> > > > > > > > > ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD). If a
> > recurring
> > > > > > > > > donation is
> > > > > > > > > picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount on those
> > > > > > > > > buttons.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We have to get the full name and address of the person who
> > donates
> > > > >
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > tax
> > > > > > > > > reasons and secondly to get the payments through because the
> > > > > > > > > credit
> > > > >
> > > > > card
> > > > > > > > > companies validate those against their own database.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We will also collect the email address to get in touch with
> > > > > > > > > people.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So in the end the process will look like this:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an amount by
> > clicking
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > >
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > button
> > > > > > > > > and selects the payment type. Click something like "Donate
> > Now".
> > > > > > > > > 2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address.
> > > > > > > > > 3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit card stuff,
> > etc.
> > > > > > > > > 4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you page
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is probably a good example and done quite similar:
> > > > > > > > >   https://donate.mozilla.org/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have also written a few new texts that probably need a
> > little
> > > > > > > > > bit
> > > > >
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > refinement, but should be a good start:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why should I donate?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire. We create a
> > free
> > > > > > > > > firewall
> > > > > > > > > distribution that is free to use for everyone anywhere in the
> > > > > > > > > world.
> > > > >
> > > > > To
> > > > > > > > > do that,
> > > > > > > > > we need to provide the infrastructure to distribute it to our
> > > > > > > > > users
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > > the right tools for our developers to help them to make IPFire
> > > > >
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > > > every day.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Donations from individuals and corporations are the only way
> > to
> > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > >
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > of our
> > > > > > > > > services free for everyone. They pay for hosting, advertising,
> > > > >
> > > > > purchase
> > > > > > > > > equipment and to fund the work of the people behind it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by large
> > > > >
> > > > > corporations
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > proprietary solutions and we cannot do that without you.
> > Become a
> > > > > > > > > supporter
> > > > > > > > > today!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How much should I give?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Donations range from single digits donations to hundreds. For
> > us
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > >
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > important
> > > > > > > > > to give something back to help this project to succeed. If you
> > > > > > > > > want
> > > > >
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > help,
> > > > > > > > > please do so and encourage others to do so, too.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if people have
> > some
> > > > > > > > > difficulties
> > > > > > > > > to donate or commonly asked questions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There should also be some area for the smallprint since we
> > need to
> > > > >
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > > who they are donating to and that we don't do any refunds,
> > etc.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > @Maurice: Could you design a page like this?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > @Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the JS and all
> > other
> > > > > > > > > frontend bits?
> > > > > > > > > I would develop the backend and the interfaces with the
> > payment
> > > > > > > > > providers.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> 
> 

Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello guys,

because I am a little bit lost at the moment I would like to restart
conversation again and check where everyone is at right now.

I had a brief email exchange with Sven and he is a bit busy this weekend but
should have more time available next week. But I thought in the end it is
easiest to use this list so nobody misses anything.

I would still like to push for a release of the website as soon as we can, but
that doesn't mean I want to build up pressure. I just want to make sure that
things are moving a long and that we get a minimum "product" ready to release
and constantly keep improving this then.

Overall this seems to be a bit bigger than I thought in the beginning, so we
need to break it down a bit further.

So the areas of attention are:

* Completing the donation page. Here we need the address inputs as far as I can
see and the mentioned S viewport.

* Index & Features look complete for me

* Sven has already fixed the talk pages which are for internal use only and I
think this will do for the moment. I have a few ideas how to make this better,
but is not a priority for now.

* One of the bigger things (in terms of traffic) is the planet. I think this
should not be too much work to make this "nice". It is working right now, but
there is clearly a break of look & feel. But basically it has two pages which
are very similar. I think to make that really nice, this shouldn't be too much
extra work to be put in.

So can we put those two things (finishing the donation page & planet) on the
list for the upcoming few weeks?

Is anyone working on other things at the moment? Just shoot me a quick email.

Best,
-Michael

On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 12:37 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> great that things are moving along...
> 
> On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 23:57 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I did some adjustments on the existing donation pages and added the XS
> > viewport in Zeplin.
> > 
> > Next up:
> > • S viewport to reduce misunderstandings
> 
> What misunderstandings?
> 
> > • Dialog (popups) for CC and SEPA form fields
> >   • Can you provide the needed information the user has to type in?
> 
> In all cases people need to type in:
> 
> First Name, Last Name
> Company Name (optional)
> Address Line 1
> Address Line 2
> Country (Probably as a dropdown)
> 
> We *never* take any credit card or bank account details. That is only typed in
> on the website of the payment provider.
> 
> We cannot even verify the address much, but we should make sure that people
> typed in something into every field except Address Line 2.
> 
> > • Success page
> > 
> > Question:
> > What happens after the submit of CC data? Can you scribble something,
> > please?
> 
> There is probably two ways:
> 
> a) The transaction was successful and we should redirect the user to a page
> that
> says "Thank You"
> 
> b) The transaction was not successful and we should show a useful error to the
> user which we will get from the payment provider. For example that the credit
> card has been declined or that the payment provider is experiencing a
> temporary
> error and that the user should retry in a moment.
> 
> There should also a button to retry so that people don't have to submit their
> data again. I think that is necessary to make the entire process as easy as
> possible.
> 
> I am not sure if there is a good way to let them choose a different payment
> option. People will have to go back and type in everything again.
> 
> Hope this answers all the questions :)
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Let me know if there are any questions or concerns.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Maurice
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> > wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > > 
> > > thanks for working on this. This is a huge step forward from what he have
> > > had
> > > before.
> > > 
> > > I especially appreciate the progress in both, design and implement,
> > > although
> > > it
> > > is quite a busy time for everyone!
> > > 
> > > I do have some questions/remarks though:
> > > 
> > > * Does the currency selection need to be a dropdown? It feels a bit
> > > excessive
> > > for just two currencies. Just my two cents :)
> > > 
> > > * One payment option I must have forgotten is PayPal, but that is only
> > > available
> > > for one-time payments. They don't allow recurring payments in Europe.
> > > 
> > > * Some things need a bit of rewording. I think I would prefer the text
> > > that
> > > is
> > > under the box (left side) to be on the left hand side of the box. It also
> > > doesn't sound right to me to say "1€ at least", but I didn't find anything
> > > better, yet. I will think of that and update you.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > -Michael
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 00:25 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Changelog:
> > > > Viewport M for donation page added
> > > > Minor adjustments and fixed at XL and L
> > > > Alignment fixed at some icons (please replace these):
> > > > icon-varified
> > > > icon-varified-green
> > > > icon-wireless
> > > > icon-wireless-blue
> > > > icon-arrow-down
> > > > New icons added:
> > > > icon-lock
> > > > checkboxes
> > > > radiobuttons
> > > > amex
> > > > mastercard
> > > > visa
> > > > From Viewport M to XS the top navbar shows always a background. See
> > > 
> > > "Homepage"
> > > > and "Features" at Zeplin. That should simplify the code and avoid bugs I
> > > 
> > > hope.
> > > > Doesn't it? Please let me know.
> > > > 
> > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ipf
> > > > ir
> > > 
> > > e.or
> > > > g> wrote:
> > > > > Viewport XL and L are available at Zeplin. https://zpl.io/25N8DpW
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)i
> > > > > pf
> > > 
> > > ire.
> > > > > org> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > due to personal reasons I was not able to spent that much time into
> > > 
> > > the
> > > > > > donate page so far. This is an unfinished version in our biggest
> > > 
> > > viewport.
> > > > > > Rest will follow asap.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nz2ktou84szrya0/Donate%20-%20XL.png?dl=0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfi
> > > > > > re
> > > 
> > > .org
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I put together some ideas for the donation page. We have the
> > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > that we
> > > > > > > basically get no donations any more outside of the wishlist and
> > > > > > > even
> > > > > > > those are
> > > > > > > frankly way too low. The don't even cover our cost.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And since we a providing a good product here which saves people a
> > > 
> > > lot of
> > > > > > > money
> > > > > > > we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of course it is
> > > > > > > still
> > > 
> > > free
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > everyone to donate or not, but some people need to be reminded
> > > > > > > that
> > > 
> > > this
> > > > > > > possibility exists.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So we will now add some new features: We will allow donations via
> > > 
> > > credit
> > > > > > > card
> > > > > > > and standing order to make this really hassle-free and we will
> > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > donations because some people prefer to give a small amount each
> > > 
> > > month
> > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > of a big amount once a year.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We will also remove the variety of currencies and just use EUR &
> > > > > > > USD
> > > 
> > > and
> > > > > > > suggest
> > > > > > > depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will be default for
> > > > > > > the
> > > 
> > > US
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage people to use EUR
> > > 
> > > when
> > > > > > > ever
> > > > > > > possible since we pay less fees.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct debit which support
> > > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > > donations. We don't support that with PayPal at the moment, but I
> > > 
> > > think
> > > > > > > I will
> > > > > > > need to implement their API.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That seems to be common
> > > > > > > practice. We
> > > > > > > should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom option where people
> > > 
> > > can
> > > > > > > enter what
> > > > > > > ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD). If a recurring
> > > > > > > donation is
> > > > > > > picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount on those
> > > > > > > buttons.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We have to get the full name and address of the person who donates
> > > 
> > > for
> > > > > > > tax
> > > > > > > reasons and secondly to get the payments through because the
> > > > > > > credit
> > > 
> > > card
> > > > > > > companies validate those against their own database.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We will also collect the email address to get in touch with
> > > > > > > people.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So in the end the process will look like this:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an amount by clicking
> > > > > > > on
> > > 
> > > a
> > > > > > > button
> > > > > > > and selects the payment type. Click something like "Donate Now".
> > > > > > > 2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address.
> > > > > > > 3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit card stuff, etc.
> > > > > > > 4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you page
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This is probably a good example and done quite similar:
> > > > > > >   https://donate.mozilla.org/
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I have also written a few new texts that probably need a little
> > > > > > > bit
> > > 
> > > of
> > > > > > > refinement, but should be a good start:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Why should I donate?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire. We create a free
> > > > > > > firewall
> > > > > > > distribution that is free to use for everyone anywhere in the
> > > > > > > world.
> > > 
> > > To
> > > > > > > do that,
> > > > > > > we need to provide the infrastructure to distribute it to our
> > > > > > > users
> > > 
> > > and
> > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > the right tools for our developers to help them to make IPFire
> > > 
> > > better
> > > > > > > every day.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Donations from individuals and corporations are the only way to
> > > > > > > keep
> > > 
> > > all
> > > > > > > of our
> > > > > > > services free for everyone. They pay for hosting, advertising,
> > > 
> > > purchase
> > > > > > > equipment and to fund the work of the people behind it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by large
> > > 
> > > corporations
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > proprietary solutions and we cannot do that without you. Become a
> > > > > > > supporter
> > > > > > > today!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > How much should I give?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Donations range from single digits donations to hundreds. For us
> > > > > > > it
> > > 
> > > is
> > > > > > > important
> > > > > > > to give something back to help this project to succeed. If you
> > > > > > > want
> > > 
> > > to
> > > > > > > help,
> > > > > > > please do so and encourage others to do so, too.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if people have some
> > > > > > > difficulties
> > > > > > > to donate or commonly asked questions.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There should also be some area for the smallprint since we need to
> > > 
> > > tell
> > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > who they are donating to and that we don't do any refunds, etc.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > @Maurice: Could you design a page like this?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > @Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the JS and all other
> > > > > > > frontend bits?
> > > > > > > I would develop the backend and the interfaces with the payment
> > > > > > > providers.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > -Michael
> > > > 
> > > > 

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Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hi,

great that things are moving along...

On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 23:57 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I did some adjustments on the existing donation pages and added the XS
> viewport in Zeplin.
> 
> Next up:
> • S viewport to reduce misunderstandings

What misunderstandings?

> • Dialog (popups) for CC and SEPA form fields
>   • Can you provide the needed information the user has to type in?

In all cases people need to type in:

First Name, Last Name
Company Name (optional)
Address Line 1
Address Line 2
Country (Probably as a dropdown)

We *never* take any credit card or bank account details. That is only typed in
on the website of the payment provider.

We cannot even verify the address much, but we should make sure that people
typed in something into every field except Address Line 2.

> • Success page
> 
> Question:
> What happens after the submit of CC data? Can you scribble something, please?

There is probably two ways:

a) The transaction was successful and we should redirect the user to a page that
says "Thank You"

b) The transaction was not successful and we should show a useful error to the
user which we will get from the payment provider. For example that the credit
card has been declined or that the payment provider is experiencing a temporary
error and that the user should retry in a moment.

There should also a button to retry so that people don't have to submit their
data again. I think that is necessary to make the entire process as easy as
possible.

I am not sure if there is a good way to let them choose a different payment
option. People will have to go back and type in everything again.

Hope this answers all the questions :)

Best,
-Michael

> 
> 
> Let me know if there are any questions or concerns.
> 
> Best,
> Maurice
> 
> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org>
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > thanks for working on this. This is a huge step forward from what he have
> > had
> > before.
> > 
> > I especially appreciate the progress in both, design and implement, although
> > it
> > is quite a busy time for everyone!
> > 
> > I do have some questions/remarks though:
> > 
> > * Does the currency selection need to be a dropdown? It feels a bit
> > excessive
> > for just two currencies. Just my two cents :)
> > 
> > * One payment option I must have forgotten is PayPal, but that is only
> > available
> > for one-time payments. They don't allow recurring payments in Europe.
> > 
> > * Some things need a bit of rewording. I think I would prefer the text that
> > is
> > under the box (left side) to be on the left hand side of the box. It also
> > doesn't sound right to me to say "1€ at least", but I didn't find anything
> > better, yet. I will think of that and update you.
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> > 
> > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 00:25 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Changelog:
> > > Viewport M for donation page added
> > > Minor adjustments and fixed at XL and L
> > > Alignment fixed at some icons (please replace these):
> > > icon-varified
> > > icon-varified-green
> > > icon-wireless
> > > icon-wireless-blue
> > > icon-arrow-down
> > > New icons added:
> > > icon-lock
> > > checkboxes
> > > radiobuttons
> > > amex
> > > mastercard
> > > visa
> > > From Viewport M to XS the top navbar shows always a background. See
> > "Homepage"
> > > and "Features" at Zeplin. That should simplify the code and avoid bugs I
> > hope.
> > > Doesn't it? Please let me know.
> > >
> > > Best, Maurice
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ipfir
> > e.or
> > > g> wrote:
> > > > Viewport XL and L are available at Zeplin. https://zpl.io/25N8DpW
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ipf
> > ire.
> > > > org> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > due to personal reasons I was not able to spent that much time into
> > the
> > > > > donate page so far. This is an unfinished version in our biggest
> > viewport.
> > > > > Rest will follow asap.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nz2ktou84szrya0/Donate%20-%20XL.png?dl=0
> > > > >
> > > > > Best, Maurice
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire
> > .org
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I put together some ideas for the donation page. We have the problem
> > > > > > that we
> > > > > > basically get no donations any more outside of the wishlist and even
> > > > > > those are
> > > > > > frankly way too low. The don't even cover our cost.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And since we a providing a good product here which saves people a
> > lot of
> > > > > > money
> > > > > > we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of course it is still
> > free
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > everyone to donate or not, but some people need to be reminded that
> > this
> > > > > > possibility exists.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So we will now add some new features: We will allow donations via
> > credit
> > > > > > card
> > > > > > and standing order to make this really hassle-free and we will allow
> > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > donations because some people prefer to give a small amount each
> > month
> > > > > > instead
> > > > > > of a big amount once a year.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We will also remove the variety of currencies and just use EUR & USD
> > and
> > > > > > suggest
> > > > > > depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will be default for the
> > US
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage people to use EUR
> > when
> > > > > > ever
> > > > > > possible since we pay less fees.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct debit which support
> > > > > > recurring
> > > > > > donations. We don't support that with PayPal at the moment, but I
> > think
> > > > > > I will
> > > > > > need to implement their API.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That seems to be common
> > > > > > practice. We
> > > > > > should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom option where people
> > can
> > > > > > enter what
> > > > > > ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD). If a recurring
> > > > > > donation is
> > > > > > picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount on those buttons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have to get the full name and address of the person who donates
> > for
> > > > > > tax
> > > > > > reasons and secondly to get the payments through because the credit
> > card
> > > > > > companies validate those against their own database.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We will also collect the email address to get in touch with people.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So in the end the process will look like this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an amount by clicking on
> > a
> > > > > > button
> > > > > > and selects the payment type. Click something like "Donate Now".
> > > > > > 2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address.
> > > > > > 3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit card stuff, etc.
> > > > > > 4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you page
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is probably a good example and done quite similar:
> > > > > >   https://donate.mozilla.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have also written a few new texts that probably need a little bit
> > of
> > > > > > refinement, but should be a good start:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why should I donate?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire. We create a free
> > > > > > firewall
> > > > > > distribution that is free to use for everyone anywhere in the world.
> > To
> > > > > > do that,
> > > > > > we need to provide the infrastructure to distribute it to our users
> > and
> > > > > > provide
> > > > > > the right tools for our developers to help them to make IPFire
> > better
> > > > > > every day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Donations from individuals and corporations are the only way to keep
> > all
> > > > > > of our
> > > > > > services free for everyone. They pay for hosting, advertising,
> > purchase
> > > > > > equipment and to fund the work of the people behind it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by large
> > corporations
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > proprietary solutions and we cannot do that without you. Become a
> > > > > > supporter
> > > > > > today!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How much should I give?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Donations range from single digits donations to hundreds. For us it
> > is
> > > > > > important
> > > > > > to give something back to help this project to succeed. If you want
> > to
> > > > > > help,
> > > > > > please do so and encourage others to do so, too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if people have some
> > > > > > difficulties
> > > > > > to donate or commonly asked questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There should also be some area for the smallprint since we need to
> > tell
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > who they are donating to and that we don't do any refunds, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @Maurice: Could you design a page like this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the JS and all other
> > > > > > frontend bits?
> > > > > > I would develop the backend and the interfaces with the payment
> > > > > > providers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > -Michael
> > >
> > >
> 
> 

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Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

[Michael Tremer]

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Hello all,

thanks for working on this. This is a huge step forward from what he have had
before.

I especially appreciate the progress in both, design and implement, although it
is quite a busy time for everyone!

I do have some questions/remarks though:

* Does the currency selection need to be a dropdown? It feels a bit excessive
for just two currencies. Just my two cents :)

* One payment option I must have forgotten is PayPal, but that is only available
for one-time payments. They don't allow recurring payments in Europe.

* Some things need a bit of rewording. I think I would prefer the text that is
under the box (left side) to be on the left hand side of the box. It also
doesn't sound right to me to say "1€ at least", but I didn't find anything
better, yet. I will think of that and update you.

Best,
-Michael

On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 00:25 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Changelog:
> Viewport M for donation page added
> Minor adjustments and fixed at XL and L
> Alignment fixed at some icons (please replace these):
> icon-varified
> icon-varified-green
> icon-wireless
> icon-wireless-blue
> icon-arrow-down
> New icons added:
> icon-lock
> checkboxes
> radiobuttons
> amex
> mastercard
> visa
> From Viewport M to XS the top navbar shows always a background. See "Homepage"
> and "Features" at Zeplin. That should simplify the code and avoid bugs I hope.
> Doesn't it? Please let me know.
> 
> Best, Maurice
> 
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ipfire.or
> g> wrote:
> > Viewport XL and L are available at Zeplin. https://zpl.io/25N8DpW
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Maurice Gesswein <maurice.gesswein(a)ipfire.
> > org> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > due to personal reasons I was not able to spent that much time into the
> > > donate page so far. This is an unfinished version in our biggest viewport.
> > > Rest will follow asap.
> > > 
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nz2ktou84szrya0/Donate%20-%20XL.png?dl=0
> > > 
> > > Best, Maurice
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.org
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I put together some ideas for the donation page. We have the problem
> > > > that we
> > > > basically get no donations any more outside of the wishlist and even
> > > > those are
> > > > frankly way too low. The don't even cover our cost.
> > > > 
> > > > And since we a providing a good product here which saves people a lot of
> > > > money
> > > > we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of course it is still free
> > > > for
> > > > everyone to donate or not, but some people need to be reminded that this
> > > > possibility exists.
> > > > 
> > > > So we will now add some new features: We will allow donations via credit
> > > > card
> > > > and standing order to make this really hassle-free and we will allow
> > > > recurring
> > > > donations because some people prefer to give a small amount each month
> > > > instead
> > > > of a big amount once a year.
> > > > 
> > > > We will also remove the variety of currencies and just use EUR & USD and
> > > > suggest
> > > > depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will be default for the US
> > > > and
> > > > Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage people to use EUR when
> > > > ever
> > > > possible since we pay less fees.
> > > > 
> > > > Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct debit which support
> > > > recurring
> > > > donations. We don't support that with PayPal at the moment, but I think
> > > > I will
> > > > need to implement their API.
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That seems to be common
> > > > practice. We
> > > > should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom option where people can
> > > > enter what
> > > > ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD). If a recurring
> > > > donation is
> > > > picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount on those buttons.
> > > > 
> > > > We have to get the full name and address of the person who donates for
> > > > tax
> > > > reasons and secondly to get the payments through because the credit card
> > > > companies validate those against their own database.
> > > > 
> > > > We will also collect the email address to get in touch with people.
> > > > 
> > > > So in the end the process will look like this:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an amount by clicking on a
> > > > button
> > > > and selects the payment type. Click something like "Donate Now".
> > > > 2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address.
> > > > 3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit card stuff, etc.
> > > > 4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you page
> > > > 
> > > > This is probably a good example and done quite similar:
> > > >   https://donate.mozilla.org/
> > > > 
> > > > I have also written a few new texts that probably need a little bit of
> > > > refinement, but should be a good start:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Why should I donate?
> > > > 
> > > > We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire. We create a free
> > > > firewall
> > > > distribution that is free to use for everyone anywhere in the world. To
> > > > do that,
> > > > we need to provide the infrastructure to distribute it to our users and
> > > > provide
> > > > the right tools for our developers to help them to make IPFire better
> > > > every day.
> > > > 
> > > > Donations from individuals and corporations are the only way to keep all
> > > > of our
> > > > services free for everyone. They pay for hosting, advertising, purchase
> > > > equipment and to fund the work of the people behind it.
> > > > 
> > > > Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by large corporations
> > > > and
> > > > proprietary solutions and we cannot do that without you. Become a
> > > > supporter
> > > > today!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > How much should I give?
> > > > 
> > > > Donations range from single digits donations to hundreds. For us it is
> > > > important
> > > > to give something back to help this project to succeed. If you want to
> > > > help,
> > > > please do so and encourage others to do so, too.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if people have some
> > > > difficulties
> > > > to donate or commonly asked questions.
> > > > 
> > > > There should also be some area for the smallprint since we need to tell
> > > > people
> > > > who they are donating to and that we don't do any refunds, etc.
> > > > 
> > > > @Maurice: Could you design a page like this?
> > > > 
> > > > @Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the JS and all other
> > > > frontend bits?
> > > > I would develop the backend and the interfaces with the payment
> > > > providers.
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Michael
> 
> 

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