From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Tremer To: ipfire-artwork@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 17:24:36 +0100 Message-ID: <7448fb6203e8f6c0b301874af1582c338e88b0f2.camel@ipfire.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6929999586517050902==" List-Id: --===============6929999586517050902== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 21:39 +0200, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > Looks like you did a lot of cleaning tasks, Michael :) I really like to thr= ow > away stuff and pages which are very similar to each other or not really used > or helpful. Yes, loads of the content needs to be rewritten. On the donation page we main= ly have dummy texts which have to be written for the first time. I would like to decide on the final wording when we have finished the design, but until then, please feel free to make suggestions or draw a few sketches :) >=20 > > * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 alpha 6 > > to > > 4.2.1) >=20 > Am I the only one who see A LOT of broken things cause of that - I guess - > version upgrade? How should this be handled now? Or is the upgrade still in > progress? Yes, this is still work in progress. A lot of stuff has changed because of Bootstrap changing a lot since the alpha release. Other things have changed, because I put them into the variables which allows= us to write a lot less CSS. However, I mainly concentrated on migrating everythi= ng and paid less attention to the mobile viewports for example. Can we collect a list somewhere about what is incorrect? Starting with the mo= st major things? I guess the index & features page is best and then move on to t= he rest. Would you like to create tickets on Bugzilla and assign them to me? Best, -Michael > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:10 PM Michael Tremer > wrote: > > Don't worry, I will keep you in the loop for now and there will still be > > plenty > > to do after version one is being rolled out. > >=20 > > I will write an email shortly about the blog and that I cut corners :) Th= at > > needs to be sorted eventually and I am happy to get some help with that. > >=20 > > Best, > > -Michael > >=20 > > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 13:08 +0200, Sven wrote: > > > Great news. > > > I am really sorry that at the moment I can=E2=80=99t help, I really lik= e the > > project > > > and I hope that in the near future I will have some time to help you > > again. > > >=20 > > > Greetings, > > > Sven > > >=20 > > > > On 18. Jul 2018, at 13:02, Michael Tremer > > wrote: > > > >=20 > > > > Hello *, > > > >=20 > > > > for the time being, I am taking over from Sven who is caught up in wo= rk > > and > > > > I > > > > really need to move forward rolling out the website as soon as possib= le > > now. > > > >=20 > > > > So I will keep you posted with a few updates that I am making. I am a= lso > > > > doing > > > > some backend works and this is a short summary of what I did this wee= k: > > > >=20 > > > > * I removed the planet & news pages > > > > * I added a new backend for the blog and merged all news and > > > > planet posts together > > > > * I added a nice full-text search :) > > > > * I cleaned up some of the backend code and this will continue > > > >=20 > > > > On the frontend side: > > > >=20 > > > > * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 al= pha > > 6 > > > > to > > > > 4.2.1) > > > > * I moved a lot of the CSS into variables and it is now dynamically > > compiled > > > > from SASS to CSS when ever something is changed. > > > > * I removed loads of old pages that we no longer need as well as imag= es > > (so > > > > loads and loads of house-keeping) > > > >=20 > > > > * I implemented the blog > > > > For this I have loads of questions, requests and ideas for improveme= nts > > > > which I will put into a separate email > > > >=20 > > > > * I implemented the form to the donation page > > > > I did that in a slightly different way because the popup won't work > > since > > > > we will already have a popup that encourages people to make their > > donation > > > > a recurring one - please see that as a proposal. I will also send an > > extra > > > > email about the donation page > > > >=20 > > > > * I also tried to rework pages like the legal page. I guess I failed > > > > terribly on > > > > that one design-wise. So we will have to talk what we can do about the > > other > > > > pages. > > > >=20 > > > > At the moment the site isn't online. I am installing a new web server > > that > > > > will > > > > host it for now and soon will be running the production version of it= . I > > > > will > > > > let you know when that is online. > > > >=20 > > > > Best, > > > > -Michael > > > >=20 > > > > On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 12:21 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > >=20 > > > > > I just wanted to make a request about the donation page. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Can we have a field where people can enter a comment? Some people j= ust > > > > > write > > > > > "Thank you" and some other write what features they would like to s= ee > > in > > > > > the > > > > > future and this is usually a good way to communicate that. > > > > >=20 > > > > > It could potentially go under the address input. It doesn't have to= be > > > > > very > > > > > big. > > > > > Only two lines or so. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Best, > > > > > -Michael > > > > >=20 > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote: > > > > > > Ah cool, just found it (again :D). > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet? > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > I guess you might want to remove the
tag that I added agai= n, > > but > > > > > > I > > > > > > suppose the functionality is clear through this. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote: > > > > > > > We have a layout for the address-stuff. > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer > .org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Hello guys, > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff since > > > > > > > > contract > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would l= ike > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > accept donations through this as soon as possible. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I have= a > > > > > > > > rough > > > > > > > > version > > > > > > > > running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates in > > PDF > > > > > > > > forms > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > on... > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I implemen= ted > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > we need so far: > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=3Dipfire.org.git;a=3Dcommitdiff;h= =3D2c361abc > > 1a73 > > > > > > > > d9c > > > > > > > > 7b > > > > > > > > 3f > > > > > > > > f8d > > > > > > > > 82da5e769e7378a128 > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a > > tag > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > indented > > > > > > > > every line in the block by one tab. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on t= he > > > > > > > > donate > > > > > > > > button, > > > > > > > > we will send a request to my accounting software with all the > > > > > > > > details > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So = far > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > never > > > > > > > > come back. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the name, > > > > > > > > address > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for t= hat > > > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > donation form. Is that correct Maurice? > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your > > development > > > > > > > > machine? > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a prob= lem > > > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the > > main > > > > > > > > > database > > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses > > > > > > > > > connectivity > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > database and from then on there are those issues. > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I > > can > > > > > > > > > restart > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not > > reachable > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > > > > 500 > > > > > > > > > > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you > > could > > > > > > > > > > fix > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > permanently Michael? :) > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer > er(a)i > > > > > > > > > > pfir > > > > > > > > > > e. > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > g> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being > > > > > > > > > > > implemented: > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=3Dipfire.org.git;a=3Dcommitdi= ff;h=3De4 > > 00e3 > > > > > > > > > > > 7d7 > > > > > > > > > > > af > > > > > > > > > > > 60 > > > > > > > > > > > ebc > > > > > > > > > > > 45 > > > > > > > > > > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5 > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the oth= er > > two > > > > > > > > > > > dials. > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't > > be > > > > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > did, so please feel free to change. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > site > > > > > > > > > > > > nagivation > > > > > > > > > > > > issue was about again? > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are > > already > > > > > > > > > > > > closed: > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?i= d=3D1 > > 1314 > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no > > entry in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > bugzilla > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can=E2=80=99t s= ee the > > > > > > > > > > > > > flickering. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without desi= gn > > work > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > part, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maurice. > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > n(a)ip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > re.o > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rude > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major > > available > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > flickering > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapp= ing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > left > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed= in > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > addressed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the te= xt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > formation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Think > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > I'll > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next > > 2-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven schrieb am Mi., 25.= Apr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 16:58: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This week busy =E2=80=A6 hope to have a bit of = time the > > next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > move > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > top > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navigation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > r(a)ip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fi > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > re.o > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few days > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > busy with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can make > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > progress? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fireinfo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with t= he > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > things: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random coun= try > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (potentially > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toooo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > small, > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of = the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > systems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > running > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > country. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland > > (5%) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > CPU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any > > ways... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like > > last > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael > > Tremer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > ipfi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me again. 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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=3D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a49b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 54 > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > 22cd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 97e0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f64fa9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dc7b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 47367d2bb16945ee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=3Dipfire.org.gi= t;a=3Dc > > ommi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=3D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3e7c > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6c > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > cdef > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6e5b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 63f9b0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1576 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6cfb894931b43e65 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=3Dipfire.org.gi= t;a=3Dc > > ommi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=3D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14cd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4f > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > a8c6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b404 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1ba0dd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3c48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 46561d50421d97f6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=3Dipfire.org.gi= t;a=3Dc > > ommi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=3D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ba43 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a8 > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > 92f7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3a6b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 68bccd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ef23 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bf9d28ac49557e4f > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * I dropped the link to the Google Plus > > page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=3Dipfire.org.gi= t;a=3Dc > > ommi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=3D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 962f > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > de > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > e989 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7085 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 35f3b1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 60e3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 814d9d7fe0cb2686 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * And the bigger changes are those two: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=3Dipfire.org.gi= t;a=3Dc > > ommi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=3D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7c06 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 05 > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > e897 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 41c3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b0792c > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0fe1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 07459098ba248b7d > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=3Dipfire.org.gi= t;a=3Dc > > ommi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tdif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > h=3D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e52b > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 45 > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > b601 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > f908 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e7bf44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 77f9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 615ce674ce1de8da > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first one drops the wishlist. I do not > > think > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > wise > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any more. 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Nobody > > seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > care > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > localized > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website anyways since the wiki is only > > English > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > together > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. 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