From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Peter =?utf-8?q?M=C3=BCller?= To: location@lists.ipfire.org Subject: Re: incorporation state of ARIN's asn.txt / LACNIC AS name data Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 20:13:16 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20cbf1a1-1c08-b610-e6a8-519545e168ec@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9197074738643581774==" List-Id: --===============9197074738643581774== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi nusenu, thanks for your response. > out of curiosity: I haven't understood your differentiation between "human-= readable" and "technical" AS names. > Would you mind elaborating on your definitions of human-readable AS names? = I certainly don't mind, and it's not an accurate definition either. If I may = pick an arbitrary example from the ARIN asn.txt file: > 7843 TWC-7843-BB = IPADD1-ARIN (Abuse), IPADD1-ARIN (Admin), IPADD1-ARIN (Tech) So, for AS7843, "TWC-7843-BB" is the name this file supplies to us - which is= not very telling. The description field of the corresponding organisation handle is ("Charter Communications In= c"), but we lack that information for ARIN and LACNIC space. This is why I consider asn.txt to contain "technical" names, which are not ne= cessarily suitable for end-user consumption - although some companies, such as DigitalOcean, do a better job = to put meaningful strings in there. On the second thought, however, this again boils down to a missing full dump = of the ARIN database... > with regards to LACNIC: Maybe their bulk whois data is something you find u= seful? (I didn't use it myself)=20 Thanks for the hint, I was unaware of that possibility. Skimming through the = terms of conditions, however, I somehow doubt this would be suitable, as we (a) are going to redistribute the data in some way, which LACNIC ToS forbid (= based on my humble understanding) (b) are probably not going to snail mail anything from Europe to Uruguay :-) @Michael: That is, of course, unless your opinion differs. ;-) ARIN offers a similar channel (https://www.arin.net/reference/research/bulkwh= ois/). We would get organisation handle names from there as well, but it seems to miss country information for= suballocations, too (say an AOL dial-up block assigned to LATAM or similar). So, at the moment, I see this kind of ambivalent... > Do you have a rough estimate on when this next version will be released?=20 We are not making any guarantees on that front. I am currently short on spare= time, but would expect this to be released within the next couple of weeks. Thanks, and best regards, Peter M=C3=BCller --===============9197074738643581774==--