[IPFire Artwork] PSD from new Homepage

Daniel Weismüller daniel.weismueller at ipfire.org
Fri Mar 24 14:29:41 CET 2017


Hi

Here are some infos about our jabber server.
http://planet.ipfire.org/post/opening-the-ipfire-jabber-server

or look here
http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/community/talk.ipfire.org/start

Weekdays I'm on there and mostly Michael, too.

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Daniel

Am 24.03.2017 um 13:18 schrieb Sven:
> Hello,
> there are Open-Source Alternatives to Slack for example: 
> https://about.mattermost.com
> I have nothing against this mailing list but when you have a longer 
> conversation I think that it becomes a little bit hard to read, and 
> for a conversation over the phone we don’t have enough to discuss (at 
> the moment) :-D
> But IM with Jabber is fine for me.
>
> Greetings,
> Sven
>
>> Am 24.03.2017 um 12:57 schrieb Michael Tremer 
>> <michael.tremer at ipfire.org <mailto:michael.tremer at ipfire.org>>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 18:53 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
>>> I've copied the current Homepage design from Photoshop to Sketch to
>>> speed up in the future. Same with the styleguide/pattern library.
>>
>> Cool. Can we access that in some way? The Dropbox thing has vanished,
>> too and I had someone working on the Captive Portal which we don't have
>> a copy of.
>>
>>> Next step is to design the key viewports for the homepage. Already
>>> started with that. I'm pretty busy in the evenings with private stuff
>>> like home improvements and annoying things which needs to be done.
>>>
>>> Furthermore I had the idea to create a Slack channel for a more
>>> comfortable collaboration with Sven. Discuss and share stuff very
>>> easily and fast. I have very good experience with that tool during
>>> the last ~2 years.
>>>
>>> What do you think Michael, would you sign up and create a IPFire
>>> Slack channel? The free basic version is totally enough.
>>
>> I am very much against Slack. There are two main reasons:
>>
>> a) It is proprietary. We cannot rely on this being free for forever and
>> I do not want to force anyone to sign up for something in order to
>> communicate with people.
>>
>> b) We cannot archive it. The big advantage of a mailing list is that we
>> have an archive of all messages that everyone can access from
>> everywhere.
>>
>> That's why I would like to keep the main conversation on this list if
>> possible. For some work it makes more sense to do some instant
>> messaging or use a phone.
>>
>> For that we do have our own Jabber server and a SIP VoIP server that
>> you can even call from your landline (this might be quite handy since
>> you two are in different countries):
>>
>> http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/community/talk.ipfire.org/start
>>
>> I hope this makes up for Slack. But if you have any other reasons I
>> forgot to convince me, feel free to do so :)
>>
>> Best,
>> -Michael
>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Maurice
>>>
>>> Am 22.03.2017 6:24 nachm. schrieb "Michael Tremer" <michael.tremer at ip
>>> fire.org <http://fire.org>>:
>>>> Hello guys,
>>>>
>>>> just wanted to check in on you and see how things are going since
>>>> it has gone a
>>>> little bit quiet here.
>>>>
>>>> I am traveling over the next days again, but in case there is
>>>> anything I can
>>>> help out with, please send me an email.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2017-03-15 at 14:44 +0100, Sven wrote:
>>>>> Hey Maurice,
>>>>> no problem.
>>>>> I will do it with the variables: https://getbootstrap.com/css/#gr
>>>> id-less so we
>>>>> have complete control.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 14:37, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung at gmail.c 
>>>>>> <mailto:zerpixelung at gmail.c>
>>>> om> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Sven,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do you think we can do a tiny customization at Bootstrap 4's
>>>> column grid
>>>>>> system? Just 24px gutter width instead of 30px? I found a short
>>>> guide for
>>>>>> that. Seems pretty easy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://arnique.net/web-design/58/a-quick-guide-to-changing-boot
>>>> straps-gutter
>>>>>> -width/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From my point of view it looks like you just need to change
>>>> this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} {
>>>>>>>   padding-right: 15px;
>>>>>>>   padding-left: 15px;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>> .row {
>>>>>>>   margin-right: -15px;
>>>>>>>   margin-left: -15px;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} {
>>>>>>>   padding-right: 12px;
>>>>>>>   padding-left: 12px;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>> .row {
>>>>>>>   margin-right: -12px;
>>>>>>>   margin-left: -12px;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would help me to follow consistent UI metrics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best, Maurice
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer
>>>> @ipfire.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> It would be nice to keep the conversation in English since
>>>> there are
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> reading our mailing lists who don't speak German.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know it might be a little bit complicated in the beginning
>>>> but I am sure
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> will all get used to it :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 15:10 +0100, Sven wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hallo Maurice,
>>>>>>>> ich antworte einfach mal in Deutsch. Englisch kann ich gut
>>>> lesen und
>>>>>>> verstehen
>>>>>>>> aber schreibe es nicht so gern.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Im Moment baut die Seite ja auf Bootstrap auf, wird das
>>>> nicht
>>>>>>> überflüssig wenn
>>>>>>>> du sowohl Grid als auch Pattern Library aufbaust?
>>>>>>>> In wie weit wir die Pattern Library über alle Projekte
>>>> teilen sollten
>>>>>>> wir
>>>>>>>> sehen wenn die Webseite steht, da die im Moment Priorität
>>>> hat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Freu mich auf die Zusammenarbeit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Grüße,
>>>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 14 Mar 2017, at 14:25, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung at g
>>>> mail.com <http://mail.com>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't worry about the delay :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As far as I can remember I didn't created responsive
>>>> versions of the
>>>>>>> IPFire
>>>>>>>>> Website. It makes sense that these are at least almost
>>>> done before
>>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>>>>> starts with coding. I don't want that Sven has to guess
>>>> the font
>>>>>>> sizes,
>>>>>>>>> paddings, margins, line-height and so on. That's not his
>>>> job :) So
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>> stay tuned for a proper handover. I'm sure that will help
>>>> Sven a lot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Sven
>>>>>>>>> Hey Sven, nice to meet you :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just want to give some information beforehand. You may
>>>> already know
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> but I just want to get sure that we are both on the same
>>>> level.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My designs and layouts are based on a 8x8px grid (4x4px
>>>> fallback) and
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> Atomic Design driven. Touch Targets are at least 48x48px.
>>>> In some edge
>>>>>>> cases
>>>>>>>>> there might be less. Means that you will never see a
>>>> "margin: 50px"
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> 50 is not dividable by 8 or 4. I would very appreciate if
>>>> you could
>>>>>>> consider
>>>>>>>>> that within your code. That method provides a great
>>>> support to follow
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> consistent line. I'm pretty sure that I'll provide all
>>>> designs via
>>>>>>>>> zeplin.io <http://zeplin.io>. From that tool you will get 
>>>>>>>>> (almost) every
>>>> information you
>>>>>>> need.
>>>>>>>>> Margins, paddings, colors, font size, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also I'm a big fan of Pattern Libraries. At least when it
>>>> comes to the
>>>>>>>>> IPFire WUI there will be a lot of pattern usage to save
>>>> time on your
>>>>>>> side.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My strong guess is that it would make sense to have
>>>> different Pattern
>>>>>>>>> Libraries for the Website/FireInfo and WUI. But that is
>>>> totally up to
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> how to deal with that :) I think you already saw the
>>>> first designs for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> WUI?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope that doesn't sound like an arrogant Designer.
>>>> Believe me that one
>>>>>>> of my
>>>>>>>>> most important goals is to make the DEVs life as
>>>> comfortable as
>>>>>>> possible by
>>>>>>>>> providing well prepared handovers. My experience with
>>>> that is that we
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> get a great output and a professional looking UI/Website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best, M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.
>>>> tremer at ipfire
>>>>>>> .org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Maurice,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thank you for getting back in touch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:58 +0100, Maurice Gesswein
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sven and rest of the gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I nearly thought that the project has died. I'm glad
>>>> to see that
>>>>>>> this is
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> the case. Since it's very long time ago I have to
>>>> check the old
>>>>>>> PSD
>>>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>>>>> within the next days and make sure that you get a
>>>> good handover.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can only apologise that everything took so long. I
>>>> would have
>>>>>>> liked to
>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>> this realised quicker but time just didn't allow me to
>>>> work on it.
>>>>>>> Luckily
>>>>>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>>>>>> is now on board to help out and together we will get
>>>> this done now!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps I'll handover the designs via zeplin.io 
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://zeplin.io>. I've
>>>> made very
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>> experience with that tool during last year. Please
>>>> give me some
>>>>>>> days for
>>>>>>>>>>> preparing since I'm very busy right now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So where have we stopped? As far as I can see the
>>>> designs for the
>>>>>>> index
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> features page are done. Is there anything I forgot?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think what Sven mainly needs is the background images
>>>> that you
>>>>>>> used and
>>>>>>>>>> so on.
>>>>>>>>>> I am quite sure this doesn't need to be PSD in
>>>> particular.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If required we can have a conference call with
>>>> everyone, but I am
>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> there are any big questions that we cannot discuss on
>>>> the list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Michael Tremer <mic
>>>> hael.tremer at i
>>>>>>> pfire.
>>>>>>>>>> org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to send emails to the list, you just need to email
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ipfire-artwork at lists.ipfire.org 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ipfire-artwork at lists.ipfire.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I copied Maurice to your request and we will wait
>>>> until he
>>>>>>> replies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 19:51 +0100, Sven wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maurice,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you please send me the PSD files from the new
>>>> layout
>>>>>>> (Homepage
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Featurepage)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>

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