[IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page

Sven sven.hoehn at posteo.de
Sat Jul 21 12:59:16 BST 2018


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> On 21. Jul 2018, at 13:27, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer at ipfire.org> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2018-07-20 at 22:29 +0200, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
>> Thanks for clarification and good to hear that it was expected that things
>> will break.
> 
> That wasn't deliberate, but expected at least.
> 
> I also tried to move somethings to other places so that we can re-use them
> easier (i.e. the background image is used in the blog and so on and I wanted to
> have the code only once). But it looks like I fucked that one up :)
> 
>> Yes, I can of course write down every broken thing. As I asked some weeks ago,
>> but didn't get an answer - can we please use something more modern
>> and convenient as Bugzilla? I used Bugzilla a lot in the past and it's a
>> mighty tool without question. But nowadays there are better free tools out
>> there for our usecase. I suggested Trello and Wekan. Sven used Wekan in some
>> projects and had a good experience.
> 
> I have never used anything else but Bugzilla. It works well for me.
> 
> Since I do not know any of the other systems I would say that you make the pick.
> Not sure what quantity of tickets we are expecting we could also just send
> emails.
> 
> Best,
> -Michael
> 
>> What do you think?
>> 
>> Best, Maurice
>> 
>> PS: I'm on vacation now for the next 2 weeks.
> 
> Aww that is bad timing :) I hope you have a relaxing holiday and hope to see you
> back here as soon as you are back?!
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 6:24 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer at ipfire.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 21:39 +0200, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
>>>> Looks like you did a lot of cleaning tasks, Michael :) I really like to
>>> throw
>>>> away stuff and pages which are very similar to each other or not really
>>> used
>>>> or helpful.
>>> 
>>> Yes, loads of the content needs to be rewritten. On the donation page we
>>> mainly
>>> have dummy texts which have to be written for the first time.
>>> 
>>> I would like to decide on the final wording when we have finished the
>>> design,
>>> but until then, please feel free to make suggestions or draw a few sketches
>>> :)
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 alpha
>>> 6
>>>>> to
>>>>> 4.2.1)
>>>> 
>>>> Am I the only one who see A LOT of broken things cause of that - I guess -
>>>> version upgrade? How should this be handled now? Or is the upgrade still
>>> in
>>>> progress?
>>> 
>>> Yes, this is still work in progress. A lot of stuff has changed because of
>>> Bootstrap changing a lot since the alpha release.
>>> 
>>> Other things have changed, because I put them into the variables which
>>> allows us
>>> to write a lot less CSS. However, I mainly concentrated on migrating
>>> everything
>>> and paid less attention to the mobile viewports for example.
>>> 
>>> Can we collect a list somewhere about what is incorrect? Starting with the
>>> most
>>> major things? I guess the index & features page is best and then move on to
>>> the
>>> rest.
>>> 
>>> Would you like to create tickets on Bugzilla and assign them to me?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:10 PM Michael Tremer <michael.tremer at ipfire.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Don't worry, I will keep you in the loop for now and there will still be
>>>>> plenty
>>>>> to do after version one is being rolled out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will write an email shortly about the blog and that I cut corners :)
>>> That
>>>>> needs to be sorted eventually and I am happy to get some help with that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 13:08 +0200, Sven wrote:
>>>>>> Great news.
>>>>>> I am really sorry that at the moment I can’t help, I really like the
>>>>> project
>>>>>> and I hope that in the near future I will have some time to help you
>>>>> again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 18. Jul 2018, at 13:02, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer at ipfire.org
>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello *,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> for the time being, I am taking over from Sven who is caught up in
>>> work
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> really need to move forward rolling out the website as soon as
>>> possible
>>>>> now.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I will keep you posted with a few updates that I am making. I am
>>> also
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> some backend works and this is a short summary of what I did this
>>> week:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * I removed the planet & news pages
>>>>>>> * I added a new backend for the blog and merged all news and
>>>>>>> planet posts together
>>>>>>> * I added a nice full-text search :)
>>>>>>> * I cleaned up some of the backend code and this will continue
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On the frontend side:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4
>>> alpha
>>>>> 6
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> 4.2.1)
>>>>>>> * I moved a lot of the CSS into variables and it is now dynamically
>>>>> compiled
>>>>>>> from SASS to CSS when ever something is changed.
>>>>>>> * I removed loads of old pages that we no longer need as well as
>>> images
>>>>> (so
>>>>>>> loads and loads of house-keeping)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * I implemented the blog
>>>>>>> For this I have loads of questions, requests and ideas for
>>> improvements
>>>>>>> which I will put into a separate email
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * I implemented the form to the donation page
>>>>>>> I did that in a slightly different way because the popup won't work
>>>>> since
>>>>>>> we will already have a popup that encourages people to make their
>>>>> donation
>>>>>>> a recurring one - please see that as a proposal. I will also send
>>> an
>>>>> extra
>>>>>>> email about the donation page
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * I also tried to rework pages like the legal page. I guess I failed
>>>>>>> terribly on
>>>>>>> that one design-wise. So we will have to talk what we can do about
>>> the
>>>>> other
>>>>>>> pages.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> At the moment the site isn't online. I am installing a new web
>>> server
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> host it for now and soon will be running the production version of
>>> it. I
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> let you know when that is online.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 12:21 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I just wanted to make a request about the donation page.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can we have a field where people can enter a comment? Some people
>>> just
>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>> "Thank you" and some other write what features they would like to
>>> see
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> future and this is usually a good way to communicate that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It could potentially go under the address input. It doesn't have
>>> to be
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>> big.
>>>>>>>> Only two lines or so.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ah cool, just found it (again :D).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I guess you might want to remove the <form> tag that I added
>>> again,
>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> suppose the functionality is clear through this.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> We have a layout for the address-stuff.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer at ip
>>> fire
>>>>> .org
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello guys,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff
>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>> contract
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>> with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would
>>> like
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> accept donations through this as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I
>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>> rough
>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>> running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates
>>> in
>>>>> PDF
>>>>>>>>>>> forms
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>> on...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I
>>> implemented
>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> we need so far:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c36
>>> 1abc
>>>>> 1a73
>>>>>>>>>>> d9c
>>>>>>>>>>> 7b
>>>>>>>>>>> 3f
>>>>>>>>>>> f8d
>>>>>>>>>>> 82da5e769e7378a128
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a
>>> <form>
>>>>> tag
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> indented
>>>>>>>>>>> every line in the block by one tab.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> donate
>>>>>>>>>>> button,
>>>>>>>>>>> we will send a request to my accounting software with all
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> details
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So
>>> far
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>> come back.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the
>>> name,
>>>>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for
>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> part of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> donation form. Is that correct Maurice?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your
>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>>>> machine?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a
>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to
>>> the
>>>>> main
>>>>>>>>>>>> database
>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>> a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses
>>>>>>>>>>>> connectivity
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> database and from then on there are those issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and
>>> I
>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> restart
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not
>>>>> reachable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that
>>> you
>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> permanently Michael? :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer
>>> <michael.trem
>>>>> er at i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pfir
>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> g>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;
>>> h=e4
>>>>> 00e3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7d7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> af
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 60
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ebc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 45
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the
>>> other
>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dials.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just for showing how this works, but I am sure you
>>> won't
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did, so please feel free to change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind
>>> me
>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nagivation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue was about again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far we have four tickets open and many many are
>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> closed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?
>>> id=1
>>>>> 1314
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course we have to fix the bugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no
>>>>> entry in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugzilla
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flickering.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that there is still a lot to do without
>>> design
>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maurice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <maurice.gesswei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n at ip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, this is no fingerpointing or something
>>> like
>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rude
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comment! I'm wondering what about the major
>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flickering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sidenavigation during browser resize and
>>> overlapping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sidebar at the feature page? Should this be
>>> fixed in
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> words there are some major and a lot of minor
>>> bugs
>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while no new designs/layouts are available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My next todo is the blog article. Defining the
>>> text
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a bit of time to work on this during the
>>> next
>>>>> 2-3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, Maurice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sven <sven.hoehn at posteo.de> schrieb am Mi., 25.
>>> Apr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16:58:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This week busy … hope to have a bit of time
>>> the
>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, please implement the stats in the
>>> backend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is with the Planet do we rename it to
>>> Blog
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael
>>> Tremer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.treme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r at ip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the moment no news from my side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How is your availability in the next few
>>> days
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> busy with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other things or do you think that we can
>>> make
>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if you order the page content, we
>>> still
>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fireinfo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stats to put on the homepage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * The latest version and how many systems
>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * As a second thing, let's pick a random
>>> country
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (potentially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the top 20 or so where percentages
>>> are
>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toooo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland
>>>>> (5%)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess that is a quite interesting
>>> statistic
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are using because Intel is quite obvious any
>>>>> ways...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you want me to implement the backend like
>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael
>>>>> Tremer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.tremer@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ipfi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rg>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me again. I went ahead and made a few
>>>>> changes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is mostly all backend:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * A bit of tidying up of some messy code
>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
>>> ;a=c
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * I dropped the link to the Google Plus
>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
>>> ;a=c
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * And the bigger changes are those two:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git
>>> ;a=c
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> h=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e52b
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 45
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b601
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f908
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e7bf44
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 77f9
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 615ce674ce1de8da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first one drops the wishlist. I do
>>> not
>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any more. We should rather encourage
>>> people
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recurring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of searching features that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> donate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to because that takes money away from
>>>>> security-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very exciting for our users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The second one drop the entire German
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahead of us and I am going to improve
>>> some
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> texts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afford
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time to do this for German as well.
>>> Nobody
>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> localized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website anyways since the wiki is only
>>>>> English
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know your comments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also merged everything from your
>>> branch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website in the meantime. Sven, please
>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can do this as follows:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git fetch origin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git reset --hard origin/next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And then just keep committing and
>>> pushing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push needs to overwrite the old branch:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git push shoehn +master
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The plus sign overwrites all changes in
>>> the
>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100,
>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tremer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any status update other than this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know where I can support. I am
>>>>> excited
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close to rolling it out. What is left
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> todo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100,
>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tremer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, but right now we are not even
>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 250
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EUR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really really pointless...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200,
>>> Sven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25000 Euro each month would be
>>> great
>>>>> :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 23.04.2018 um 12:31 schrieb
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tremer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michael.tre
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mer at ipfi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They generally do offer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, but require a minimum
>>> turnover
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EUR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 

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