IPFire-Artwork April 2018

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Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page
by Michael Tremer 18 Jul '18

18 Jul '18

Hi, On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 16:30 +0100, Sven wrote: > Hello, > I push an update online with the donation-page. Cool. > It’s working but I’m not really happy with the responsiveness of it. Why? > Also I have to recheck the font formatting at the moment it seems wrong on the > donation page, but will recheck with the other pages and their viewports. > > Can someone explain me again why we need the pop-up box with the address of > the donator? Because in Germany we have so many useless laws. We have to pay VAT on donations, but for that is depends where the "service" is being provided. > Do we need it all the time or only for the credit card payment? Every time. > When someone pays with PayPal that information are already included within > their PayPal Account. We optionally can get a "shipping address", but that is not the same. PayPal otherwise just gives us the email address. > How does the SEPA transfer work? Via online banking or will it show up the > bank information like on the Mozilla Donation page? It will be a direct debit (Lastschrift in German). The second step will ask for the IBAN and BIC and that is all we need. > Personally I would prefer a payment method where I have to insert as less > information as possible. Same here. I suppose that this will be a big problem here. Maybe we need some fine-tuning later, but I do not see a way how we get around this in a better way. But open for any ideas. > @Maurice can you please include the screens with the overlaying grid on > zeplin? I have some trouble understanding how many columns the text-blocks on > the donation page are. You only sent this email to me. Please copy the list next time. > > Still a lot to do but we are moving forward. Yes :) Very happy to see the progress here. The PayPal logo is missing in git. -Michael > > Greetings, > Sven > > > On 17. Feb 2018, at 13:21, Michael Tremer via IPFire-Artwork <ipfire-artwork > > @lists.ipfire.org> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 22:39 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal > > > > supports > > > > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us. > > > > > > > > > PayPal should only be visible if "One time" is selected. I added a note > > > for > > > that within Zeplin. For me it doesn't matter on which position it is > > > displayed. I assume if it's placed at the far right position that's the > > > easiest way for Sven. > > > > Agreed. > > > > I will still investigate how we can do the full monty with PayPal as well. I > > do > > not like them at all, but right now > 90% of our donations come through it. > > So > > the decision is easy to make :) > > > > > > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected. > > > > Potentially > > > > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells people > > > > why > > > > we > > > > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or > > > > should > > > > we > > > > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page? > > > > > > > > > I added a dummytext within the dialogs. > > > > Perfect. > > > > > > > > > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it is > > > > not > > > > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like Debian > > > > still > > > > has: > > > > https://planet.debian.org/ > > > > > > I would use "Blog". It's more common these days. Only Grandpas like us > > > knows > > > what "Planet" means ;) > > > > Okay, let's rename it then. I have never considered this before, but it > > actually > > sounds way better to me to call this Blog now. > > > > I will do the backend stuff when Sven is done with the frontend. Or should > > we do > > it the other way round? > > > > What I also saw yesterday, the formatting of the blog should also be used > > for > > the main news like these: > > > > https://www.ipfire.org/news/ipfire-2-19-core-update-118-released > > > > We also have this sub-page https://www.ipfire.org/news. Not sure what to do > > with > > it. It is not very useful, but without it there is no way to access previous > > news. > > > > > > > > > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That > > > > should > > > > also > > > > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly how > > > > it > > > > will > > > > look. > > > > https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test > > > > > > Perfect! Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.or > > > g> > > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 22:47 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > > > great that things are moving along! You did a lot in the past days :) > > > > > > > > > I pushed some updated Donation screens and new ones to Zeplin. > > > > > > > > > > Changelog: > > > > > PayPal added > > > > > > > > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal > > > > supports > > > > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us. > > > > > > > > > Viewport S added > > > > > > > > Looks very good. > > > > > > > > > Dialogs for personal data added > > > > > > > > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected. > > > > Potentially > > > > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells people > > > > why > > > > we > > > > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or > > > > should > > > > we > > > > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page? > > > > > > > > > Success and Failed page added > > > > > > > > !!! > > > > > > > > > New icons and PayPal Logo added to Assets sheet. > > > > > > > > > > Can we please move the text of "Why should I donate?" and "How much > > > > > should > > > > > > > > I > > > > > give?" to the bottom next to the FAQ again? I understand that you want > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > information above the "fold". That works OK somehow in Viewport XL but > > > > > the > > > > > dark sidebar becomes longer and longer in smaller viewports. This > > > > > results > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > lot of unwanted whitespace and the FAQ are far away. As a trade-off I > > > > > kept > > > > > > > > the > > > > > headlines in the dark sidebar and placed jumpmark icons next to it. > > > > > > > > Yes, please move this to where you think it is best. The text is not > > > > finalised > > > > yet and I will make this work later then. It would just be nice to have > > > > some > > > > area with text that everyone reads and where we encourage people to give > > > > (more > > > > :D) and some smallprint that just has to be there but nobody cares too > > > > much > > > > about. > > > > > > > > I suppose as soon as Sven has implemented it all, I will check out the > > > > branch > > > > and write the texts and then we merge everything together. > > > > > > > > > After I read your last mail it seems to be that the Blog/Planet is > > > > > pretty > > > > > popular. Is this true? If so, should the link to the Planet not a lot > > > > > more > > > > > prominent? What about place "Planet" or "Blog" in the Topbar? > > > > > > > > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it is > > > > not > > > > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like Debian > > > > still > > > > has: > > > > https://planet.debian.org/ > > > > > > > > It is quite a nice news outlet for not too important news that are > > > > mainly > > > > interesting for people who are involved a bit more into the project. > > > > It's > > > > about > > > > development and what we are doing. > > > > > > > > > Layout and design of the Blog is straight forward. I'll focus on this > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > It > > > > > would help me a lot if you can point me to some sample articles where > > > > > I > > > > > > > > can > > > > > see ALL different textformatations which are needed. Or write down a > > > > > list > > > > > like: H1, H2, H3, bulletpoints, code, quote, highlight, etc. > > > > > > > > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That > > > > should > > > > also > > > > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly how > > > > it > > > > will > > > > look. > > > > > > > > https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test > > > > > > > > I think I didn't forget anything. But if I did, please let me know. > > > > > > > > Obviously the blue bar at the top will disappear when a post has been > > > > published > > > > :) > > > > > > > > Hope this is all you need from me right now. Let me know if I can do > > > > anything > > > > else! > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > Let me know if there are any questions. > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire > > > > > .org > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > because I am a little bit lost at the moment I would like to restart > > > > > > conversation again and check where everyone is at right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a brief email exchange with Sven and he is a bit busy this > > > > > > weekend > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > should have more time available next week. But I thought in the end > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > easiest to use this list so nobody misses anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would still like to push for a release of the website as soon as > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > can, > > > > > > but > > > > > > that doesn't mean I want to build up pressure. I just want to make > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > things are moving a long and that we get a minimum "product" ready > > > > > > to > > > > > > release > > > > > > and constantly keep improving this then. > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall this seems to be a bit bigger than I thought in the > > > > > > beginning, > > > > > > > > so we > > > > > > need to break it down a bit further. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the areas of attention are: > > > > > > > > > > > > * Completing the donation page. Here we need the address inputs as > > > > > > far > > > > > > > > as I > > > > > > can > > > > > > see and the mentioned S viewport. > > > > > > > > > > > > * Index & Features look complete for me > > > > > > > > > > > > * Sven has already fixed the talk pages which are for internal use > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > I > > > > > > think this will do for the moment. I have a few ideas how to make > > > > > > this > > > > > > better, > > > > > > but is not a priority for now. > > > > > > > > > > > > * One of the bigger things (in terms of traffic) is the planet. I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > should not be too much work to make this "nice". It is working right > > > > > > > > now, > > > > > > but > > > > > > there is clearly a break of look & feel. But basically it has two > > > > > > pages > > > > > > which > > > > > > are very similar. I think to make that really nice, this shouldn't > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > too > > > > > > much > > > > > > extra work to be put in. > > > > > > > > > > > > So can we put those two things (finishing the donation page & > > > > > > planet) on > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > list for the upcoming few weeks? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone working on other things at the moment? Just shoot me a > > > > > > quick > > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 12:37 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great that things are moving along... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 23:57 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did some adjustments on the existing donation pages and added > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > XS > > > > > > > > viewport in Zeplin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next up: > > > > > > > > • S viewport to reduce misunderstandings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What misunderstandings? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > • Dialog (popups) for CC and SEPA form fields > > > > > > > > • Can you provide the needed information the user has to type > > > > > > > > in? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In all cases people need to type in: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First Name, Last Name > > > > > > > Company Name (optional) > > > > > > > Address Line 1 > > > > > > > Address Line 2 > > > > > > > Country (Probably as a dropdown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We *never* take any credit card or bank account details. That is > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > typed in > > > > > > > on the website of the payment provider. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We cannot even verify the address much, but we should make sure > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > typed in something into every field except Address Line 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > • Success page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Question: > > > > > > > > What happens after the submit of CC data? Can you scribble > > > > > > > > something, > > > > > > > > please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is probably two ways: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) The transaction was successful and we should redirect the user > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > says "Thank You" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) The transaction was not successful and we should show a useful > > > > > > > > error to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > user which we will get from the payment provider. For example that > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > credit > > > > > > > card has been declined or that the payment provider is > > > > > > > experiencing a > > > > > > > temporary > > > > > > > error and that the user should retry in a moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There should also a button to retry so that people don't have to > > > > > > > > submit > > > > > > their > > > > > > > data again. I think that is necessary to make the entire process > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > easy > > > > > > as > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure if there is a good way to let them choose a > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > > payment > > > > > > > option. People will have to go back and type in everything again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this answers all the questions :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know if there are any questions or concerns. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@i > > > > > > > > pfir > > > > > > > > e.or > > > > > > g> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for working on this. This is a huge step forward from > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I especially appreciate the progress in both, design and > > > > > > > > implement, > > > > > > > > > although > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is quite a busy time for everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do have some questions/remarks though: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Does the currency selection need to be a dropdown? It feels > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > bit > > > > > > > > > excessive > > > > > > > > > for just two currencies. Just my two cents :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * One payment option I must have forgotten is PayPal, but that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > for one-time payments. They don't allow recurring payments in > > > > > > > > Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Some things need a bit of rewording. I think I would prefer > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > text > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > under the box (left side) to be on the left hand side of the > > > > > > > > > box. > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > doesn't sound right to me to say "1€ at least", but I didn't > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > > better, yet. I will think of that and update you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 00:25 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Changelog: > > > > > > > > > > Viewport M for donation page added > > > > > > > > > > Minor adjustments and fixed at XL and L > > > > > > > > > > Alignment fixed at some icons (please replace these): > > > > > > > > > > icon-varified > > > > > > > > > > icon-varified-green > > > > > > > > > > icon-wireless > > > > > > > > > > icon-wireless-blue > > > > > > > > > > icon-arrow-down > > > > > > > > > > New icons added: > > > > > > > > > > icon-lock > > > > > > > > > > checkboxes > > > > > > > > > > radiobuttons > > > > > > > > > > amex > > > > > > > > > > mastercard > > > > > > > > > > visa > > > > > > > > > > From Viewport M to XS the top navbar shows always a > > > > > > > > > > background. > > > > > > > > See > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Homepage" > > > > > > > > > > and "Features" at Zeplin. That should simplify the code and > > > > > > > > avoid > > > > > > bugs I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope. > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't it? Please let me know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Maurice Gesswein > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswein > > > > > > @ipf > > > > > > > > > > ir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e.or > > > > > > > > > > g> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Viewport XL and L are available at Zeplin. https://zpl.io/ > > > > > > > > > > > 25N8 > > > > > > > > DpW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Maurice Gesswein > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswe > > > > > > in@i > > > > > > > > > > > pf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ire. > > > > > > > > > > > org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to personal reasons I was not able to spent that > > > > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > donate page so far. This is an unfinished version in our > > > > > > > > biggest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > viewport. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rest will follow asap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nz2ktou84szrya0/Donate%20-%20X > > > > > > > > > > > > L.pn > > > > > > > > g?dl > > > > > > =0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Michael Tremer > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@ > > > > > > ipfi > > > > > > > > > > > > re > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I put together some ideas for the donation page. We > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > that we > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically get no donations any more outside of the > > > > > > > > wishlist > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > > those are > > > > > > > > > > > > > frankly way too low. The don't even cover our cost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And since we a providing a good product here which > > > > > > > > > > > > > saves > > > > > > > > > > > > people a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > > > > > > > money > > > > > > > > > > > > > we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of > > > > > > > > > > > > > course it > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone to donate or not, but some people need to be > > > > > > > > reminded > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > possibility exists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we will now add some new features: We will allow > > > > > > > > donations > > > > > > via > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > credit > > > > > > > > > > > > > card > > > > > > > > > > > > > and standing order to make this really hassle-free and > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring > > > > > > > > > > > > > donations because some people prefer to give a small > > > > > > > > amount > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a big amount once a year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We will also remove the variety of currencies and just > > > > > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > EUR > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > > USD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest > > > > > > > > > > > > > depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will be > > > > > > > > default > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage people > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > EUR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible since we pay less fees. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct debit > > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring > > > > > > > > > > > > > donations. We don't support that with PayPal at the > > > > > > > > moment, > > > > > > but I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to implement their API. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > common > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice. We > > > > > > > > > > > > > should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom option > > > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > enter what > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD). If > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring > > > > > > > > > > > > > donation is > > > > > > > > > > > > > picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount on > > > > > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > > buttons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get the full name and address of the person > > > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > donates > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasons and secondly to get the payments through > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > credit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > card > > > > > > > > > > > > > companies validate those against their own database. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We will also collect the email address to get in touch > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So in the end the process will look like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an amount > > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > clicking > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > button > > > > > > > > > > > > > and selects the payment type. Click something like > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Donate > > > > > > > > > > > > Now". > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit card > > > > > > > > stuff, > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is probably a good example and done quite > > > > > > > > > > > > > similar: > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://donate.mozilla.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also written a few new texts that probably need > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > > > > > > bit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > refinement, but should be a good start: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should I donate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire. We > > > > > > > > create a > > > > > > free > > > > > > > > > > > > > firewall > > > > > > > > > > > > > distribution that is free to use for everyone anywhere > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > do that, > > > > > > > > > > > > > we need to provide the infrastructure to distribute it > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > > > users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > provide > > > > > > > > > > > > > the right tools for our developers to help them to > > > > > > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > IPFire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > every day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donations from individuals and corporations are the > > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > way > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > keep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > services free for everyone. They pay for hosting, > > > > > > > > advertising, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > purchase > > > > > > > > > > > > > equipment and to fund the work of the people behind > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by > > > > > > > > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > corporations > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > proprietary solutions and we cannot do that without > > > > > > > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Become a > > > > > > > > > > > > > supporter > > > > > > > > > > > > > today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much should I give? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donations range from single digits donations to > > > > > > > > > > > > > hundreds. > > > > > > > > For > > > > > > us > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > important > > > > > > > > > > > > > to give something back to help this project to > > > > > > > > > > > > > succeed. If > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > help, > > > > > > > > > > > > > please do so and encourage others to do so, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if > > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulties > > > > > > > > > > > > > to donate or commonly asked questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There should also be some area for the smallprint > > > > > > > > > > > > > since we > > > > > > > > > > > > need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tell > > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > who they are donating to and that we don't do any > > > > > > > > > > > > > refunds, > > > > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Maurice: Could you design a page like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > frontend bits? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would develop the backend and the interfaces with > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > payment > > > > > > > > > > > > > providers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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