IPFire-Artwork May 2018

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Re: [IPFire Artwork] Reworking the donation page
by Michael Tremer 18 Jul '18

18 Jul '18

Hi, On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 16:30 +0100, Sven wrote: > Hello, > I push an update online with the donation-page. Cool. > It’s working but I’m not really happy with the responsiveness of it. Why? > Also I have to recheck the font formatting at the moment it seems wrong on the > donation page, but will recheck with the other pages and their viewports. > > Can someone explain me again why we need the pop-up box with the address of > the donator? Because in Germany we have so many useless laws. We have to pay VAT on donations, but for that is depends where the "service" is being provided. > Do we need it all the time or only for the credit card payment? Every time. > When someone pays with PayPal that information are already included within > their PayPal Account. We optionally can get a "shipping address", but that is not the same. PayPal otherwise just gives us the email address. > How does the SEPA transfer work? Via online banking or will it show up the > bank information like on the Mozilla Donation page? It will be a direct debit (Lastschrift in German). The second step will ask for the IBAN and BIC and that is all we need. > Personally I would prefer a payment method where I have to insert as less > information as possible. Same here. I suppose that this will be a big problem here. Maybe we need some fine-tuning later, but I do not see a way how we get around this in a better way. But open for any ideas. > @Maurice can you please include the screens with the overlaying grid on > zeplin? I have some trouble understanding how many columns the text-blocks on > the donation page are. You only sent this email to me. Please copy the list next time. > > Still a lot to do but we are moving forward. Yes :) Very happy to see the progress here. The PayPal logo is missing in git. -Michael > > Greetings, > Sven > > > On 17. Feb 2018, at 13:21, Michael Tremer via IPFire-Artwork <ipfire-artwork > > @lists.ipfire.org> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, 2018-02-16 at 22:39 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal > > > > supports > > > > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us. > > > > > > > > > PayPal should only be visible if "One time" is selected. I added a note > > > for > > > that within Zeplin. For me it doesn't matter on which position it is > > > displayed. I assume if it's placed at the far right position that's the > > > easiest way for Sven. > > > > Agreed. > > > > I will still investigate how we can do the full monty with PayPal as well. I > > do > > not like them at all, but right now > 90% of our donations come through it. > > So > > the decision is easy to make :) > > > > > > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected. > > > > Potentially > > > > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells people > > > > why > > > > we > > > > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or > > > > should > > > > we > > > > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page? > > > > > > > > > I added a dummytext within the dialogs. > > > > Perfect. > > > > > > > > > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it is > > > > not > > > > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like Debian > > > > still > > > > has: > > > > https://planet.debian.org/ > > > > > > I would use "Blog". It's more common these days. Only Grandpas like us > > > knows > > > what "Planet" means ;) > > > > Okay, let's rename it then. I have never considered this before, but it > > actually > > sounds way better to me to call this Blog now. > > > > I will do the backend stuff when Sven is done with the frontend. Or should > > we do > > it the other way round? > > > > What I also saw yesterday, the formatting of the blog should also be used > > for > > the main news like these: > > > > https://www.ipfire.org/news/ipfire-2-19-core-update-118-released > > > > We also have this sub-page https://www.ipfire.org/news. Not sure what to do > > with > > it. It is not very useful, but without it there is no way to access previous > > news. > > > > > > > > > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That > > > > should > > > > also > > > > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly how > > > > it > > > > will > > > > look. > > > > https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test > > > > > > Perfect! Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer(a)ipfire.or > > > g> > > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-02-15 at 22:47 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > > > great that things are moving along! You did a lot in the past days :) > > > > > > > > > I pushed some updated Donation screens and new ones to Zeplin. > > > > > > > > > > Changelog: > > > > > PayPal added > > > > > > > > Great. I will think about the order because I am not sure if PayPal > > > > supports > > > > recurring donations and bank transfers are way cheaper for us. > > > > > > > > > Viewport S added > > > > > > > > Looks very good. > > > > > > > > > Dialogs for personal data added > > > > > > > > This looks good, but shows arrows where the country can be selected. > > > > Potentially > > > > we need to add a few lines of smallprint at the bottom that tells people > > > > why > > > > we > > > > need this infomation. I would assume that many will ask for that. Or > > > > should > > > > we > > > > put that into the smallprint on the main donation page? > > > > > > > > > Success and Failed page added > > > > > > > > !!! > > > > > > > > > New icons and PayPal Logo added to Assets sheet. > > > > > > > > > > Can we please move the text of "Why should I donate?" and "How much > > > > > should > > > > > > > > I > > > > > give?" to the bottom next to the FAQ again? I understand that you want > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > information above the "fold". That works OK somehow in Viewport XL but > > > > > the > > > > > dark sidebar becomes longer and longer in smaller viewports. This > > > > > results > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > lot of unwanted whitespace and the FAQ are far away. As a trade-off I > > > > > kept > > > > > > > > the > > > > > headlines in the dark sidebar and placed jumpmark icons next to it. > > > > > > > > Yes, please move this to where you think it is best. The text is not > > > > finalised > > > > yet and I will make this work later then. It would just be nice to have > > > > some > > > > area with text that everyone reads and where we encourage people to give > > > > (more > > > > :D) and some smallprint that just has to be there but nobody cares too > > > > much > > > > about. > > > > > > > > I suppose as soon as Sven has implemented it all, I will check out the > > > > branch > > > > and write the texts and then we merge everything together. > > > > > > > > > After I read your last mail it seems to be that the Blog/Planet is > > > > > pretty > > > > > popular. Is this true? If so, should the link to the Planet not a lot > > > > > more > > > > > prominent? What about place "Planet" or "Blog" in the Topbar? > > > > > > > > Should we even rename it "Blog"? That would be more obvious since it is > > > > not > > > > really a "planet" which used to be an aggregated RSS feed like Debian > > > > still > > > > has: > > > > https://planet.debian.org/ > > > > > > > > It is quite a nice news outlet for not too important news that are > > > > mainly > > > > interesting for people who are involved a bit more into the project. > > > > It's > > > > about > > > > development and what we are doing. > > > > > > > > > Layout and design of the Blog is straight forward. I'll focus on this > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > It > > > > > would help me a lot if you can point me to some sample articles where > > > > > I > > > > > > > > can > > > > > see ALL different textformatations which are needed. Or write down a > > > > > list > > > > > like: H1, H2, H3, bulletpoints, code, quote, highlight, etc. > > > > > > > > I made you an extra article about that which isn't published. That > > > > should > > > > also > > > > help Sven to implement this and see everything on one page. Exactly how > > > > it > > > > will > > > > look. > > > > > > > > https://planet.ipfire.org/post/test > > > > > > > > I think I didn't forget anything. But if I did, please let me know. > > > > > > > > Obviously the blue bar at the top will disappear when a post has been > > > > published > > > > :) > > > > > > > > Hope this is all you need from me right now. Let me know if I can do > > > > anything > > > > else! > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > Let me know if there are any questions. > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire > > > > > .org > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > because I am a little bit lost at the moment I would like to restart > > > > > > conversation again and check where everyone is at right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had a brief email exchange with Sven and he is a bit busy this > > > > > > weekend > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > should have more time available next week. But I thought in the end > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > easiest to use this list so nobody misses anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would still like to push for a release of the website as soon as > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > can, > > > > > > but > > > > > > that doesn't mean I want to build up pressure. I just want to make > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > things are moving a long and that we get a minimum "product" ready > > > > > > to > > > > > > release > > > > > > and constantly keep improving this then. > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall this seems to be a bit bigger than I thought in the > > > > > > beginning, > > > > > > > > so we > > > > > > need to break it down a bit further. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the areas of attention are: > > > > > > > > > > > > * Completing the donation page. Here we need the address inputs as > > > > > > far > > > > > > > > as I > > > > > > can > > > > > > see and the mentioned S viewport. > > > > > > > > > > > > * Index & Features look complete for me > > > > > > > > > > > > * Sven has already fixed the talk pages which are for internal use > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > I > > > > > > think this will do for the moment. I have a few ideas how to make > > > > > > this > > > > > > better, > > > > > > but is not a priority for now. > > > > > > > > > > > > * One of the bigger things (in terms of traffic) is the planet. I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > should not be too much work to make this "nice". It is working right > > > > > > > > now, > > > > > > but > > > > > > there is clearly a break of look & feel. But basically it has two > > > > > > pages > > > > > > which > > > > > > are very similar. I think to make that really nice, this shouldn't > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > too > > > > > > much > > > > > > extra work to be put in. > > > > > > > > > > > > So can we put those two things (finishing the donation page & > > > > > > planet) on > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > list for the upcoming few weeks? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone working on other things at the moment? Just shoot me a > > > > > > quick > > > > > > email. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-01-16 at 12:37 +0000, Michael Tremer wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > great that things are moving along... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-01-15 at 23:57 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did some adjustments on the existing donation pages and added > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > XS > > > > > > > > viewport in Zeplin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next up: > > > > > > > > • S viewport to reduce misunderstandings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What misunderstandings? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > • Dialog (popups) for CC and SEPA form fields > > > > > > > > • Can you provide the needed information the user has to type > > > > > > > > in? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In all cases people need to type in: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First Name, Last Name > > > > > > > Company Name (optional) > > > > > > > Address Line 1 > > > > > > > Address Line 2 > > > > > > > Country (Probably as a dropdown) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We *never* take any credit card or bank account details. That is > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > typed in > > > > > > > on the website of the payment provider. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We cannot even verify the address much, but we should make sure > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > typed in something into every field except Address Line 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > • Success page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Question: > > > > > > > > What happens after the submit of CC data? Can you scribble > > > > > > > > something, > > > > > > > > please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is probably two ways: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) The transaction was successful and we should redirect the user > > > > > > > to a > > > > > > > > > > > > page > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > says "Thank You" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) The transaction was not successful and we should show a useful > > > > > > > > error to > > > > > > the > > > > > > > user which we will get from the payment provider. For example that > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > credit > > > > > > > card has been declined or that the payment provider is > > > > > > > experiencing a > > > > > > > temporary > > > > > > > error and that the user should retry in a moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There should also a button to retry so that people don't have to > > > > > > > > submit > > > > > > their > > > > > > > data again. I think that is necessary to make the entire process > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > easy > > > > > > as > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure if there is a good way to let them choose a > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > > payment > > > > > > > option. People will have to go back and type in everything again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this answers all the questions :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know if there are any questions or concerns. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@i > > > > > > > > pfir > > > > > > > > e.or > > > > > > g> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for working on this. This is a huge step forward from > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I especially appreciate the progress in both, design and > > > > > > > > implement, > > > > > > > > > although > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is quite a busy time for everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do have some questions/remarks though: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Does the currency selection need to be a dropdown? It feels > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > bit > > > > > > > > > excessive > > > > > > > > > for just two currencies. Just my two cents :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * One payment option I must have forgotten is PayPal, but that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > for one-time payments. They don't allow recurring payments in > > > > > > > > Europe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Some things need a bit of rewording. I think I would prefer > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > text > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > under the box (left side) to be on the left hand side of the > > > > > > > > > box. > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > doesn't sound right to me to say "1€ at least", but I didn't > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > > better, yet. I will think of that and update you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 00:25 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Changelog: > > > > > > > > > > Viewport M for donation page added > > > > > > > > > > Minor adjustments and fixed at XL and L > > > > > > > > > > Alignment fixed at some icons (please replace these): > > > > > > > > > > icon-varified > > > > > > > > > > icon-varified-green > > > > > > > > > > icon-wireless > > > > > > > > > > icon-wireless-blue > > > > > > > > > > icon-arrow-down > > > > > > > > > > New icons added: > > > > > > > > > > icon-lock > > > > > > > > > > checkboxes > > > > > > > > > > radiobuttons > > > > > > > > > > amex > > > > > > > > > > mastercard > > > > > > > > > > visa > > > > > > > > > > From Viewport M to XS the top navbar shows always a > > > > > > > > > > background. > > > > > > > > See > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Homepage" > > > > > > > > > > and "Features" at Zeplin. That should simplify the code and > > > > > > > > avoid > > > > > > bugs I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope. > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't it? Please let me know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:27 AM, Maurice Gesswein > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswein > > > > > > @ipf > > > > > > > > > > ir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e.or > > > > > > > > > > g> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Viewport XL and L are available at Zeplin. https://zpl.io/ > > > > > > > > > > > 25N8 > > > > > > > > DpW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Maurice Gesswein > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswe > > > > > > in@i > > > > > > > > > > > pf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ire. > > > > > > > > > > > org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > due to personal reasons I was not able to spent that > > > > > > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > donate page so far. This is an unfinished version in our > > > > > > > > biggest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > viewport. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rest will follow asap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nz2ktou84szrya0/Donate%20-%20X > > > > > > > > > > > > L.pn > > > > > > > > g?dl > > > > > > =0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Michael Tremer > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@ > > > > > > ipfi > > > > > > > > > > > > re > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I put together some ideas for the donation page. We > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > that we > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically get no donations any more outside of the > > > > > > > > wishlist > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > > those are > > > > > > > > > > > > > frankly way too low. The don't even cover our cost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And since we a providing a good product here which > > > > > > > > > > > > > saves > > > > > > > > > > > > people a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lot of > > > > > > > > > > > > > money > > > > > > > > > > > > > we should not be afraid to ask for donations. Of > > > > > > > > > > > > > course it > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > free > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone to donate or not, but some people need to be > > > > > > > > reminded > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > possibility exists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we will now add some new features: We will allow > > > > > > > > donations > > > > > > via > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > credit > > > > > > > > > > > > > card > > > > > > > > > > > > > and standing order to make this really hassle-free and > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring > > > > > > > > > > > > > donations because some people prefer to give a small > > > > > > > > amount > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a big amount once a year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We will also remove the variety of currencies and just > > > > > > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > EUR > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > > USD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest > > > > > > > > > > > > > depending on GeoIP which one is default. USD will be > > > > > > > > default > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canada obviously, but we will try to encourage people > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > EUR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible since we pay less fees. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Payment options are credit card & SEPA direct debit > > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > support > > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring > > > > > > > > > > > > > donations. We don't support that with PayPal at the > > > > > > > > moment, > > > > > > but I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to implement their API. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to suggest amounts to donate. That seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > common > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice. We > > > > > > > > > > > > > should have 250, 100, 50, 25, 10 and a custom option > > > > > > > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > enter what > > > > > > > > > > > > > ever they want. The minimum should be 1 (EUR/USD). If > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > recurring > > > > > > > > > > > > > donation is > > > > > > > > > > > > > picked, we should use some JS to halve the amount on > > > > > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > > buttons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have to get the full name and address of the person > > > > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > donates > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > tax > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasons and secondly to get the payments through > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > credit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > card > > > > > > > > > > > > > companies validate those against their own database. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We will also collect the email address to get in touch > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So in the end the process will look like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Person selects one-time/monthly payment, an amount > > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > clicking > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > button > > > > > > > > > > > > > and selects the payment type. Click something like > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Donate > > > > > > > > > > > > Now". > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) A form is shown to enter name, email & address. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Redirect to payment provider to enter credit card > > > > > > > > stuff, > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Payment provider redirects back to a thank you page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is probably a good example and done quite > > > > > > > > > > > > > similar: > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://donate.mozilla.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also written a few new texts that probably need > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > > > > > > bit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > refinement, but should be a good start: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why should I donate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are proud of what we are doing here at IPFire. We > > > > > > > > create a > > > > > > free > > > > > > > > > > > > > firewall > > > > > > > > > > > > > distribution that is free to use for everyone anywhere > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > > > > > > > > do that, > > > > > > > > > > > > > we need to provide the infrastructure to distribute it > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > > > users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > provide > > > > > > > > > > > > > the right tools for our developers to help them to > > > > > > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > IPFire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > every day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donations from individuals and corporations are the > > > > > > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > way > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > keep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > of our > > > > > > > > > > > > > services free for everyone. They pay for hosting, > > > > > > > > advertising, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > purchase > > > > > > > > > > > > > equipment and to fund the work of the people behind > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our ambition is to compete with projects backed by > > > > > > > > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > corporations > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > proprietary solutions and we cannot do that without > > > > > > > > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Become a > > > > > > > > > > > > > supporter > > > > > > > > > > > > > today! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much should I give? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donations range from single digits donations to > > > > > > > > > > > > > hundreds. > > > > > > > > For > > > > > > us > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > important > > > > > > > > > > > > > to give something back to help this project to > > > > > > > > > > > > > succeed. If > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > help, > > > > > > > > > > > > > please do so and encourage others to do so, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we will also have a small FAQ depending if > > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficulties > > > > > > > > > > > > > to donate or commonly asked questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There should also be some area for the smallprint > > > > > > > > > > > > > since we > > > > > > > > > > > > need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tell > > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > who they are donating to and that we don't do any > > > > > > > > > > > > > refunds, > > > > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Maurice: Could you design a page like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Sven: Would you be up to implement his with the JS > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > frontend bits? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would develop the backend and the interfaces with > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > payment > > > > > > > > > > > > > providers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Blog aka Planet
by Maurice Gesswein 17 Jun '18

17 Jun '18

Hey folks, just want to let you know that I'm alive and added *WIP (Work In Progress. Sven, please don't start with coding yet)* Screens of the Blog at Zeplin - https://app.zeplin.io/project/58cb0217f2317d48c7a802f2/dashboard?seid=5b0dc… I discovered 4 different locations where a blog article appears: 1. https://planet.ipfire.org/ 2. https://planet.ipfire.org/post/ipfire-2-19-core-update-120-is-available-for… 3. https://www.ipfire.org/news/ipfire-2-19-core-update-118-released 4. https://downloads.ipfire.org/release/ipfire-2.19-core120 Did I catch them all or are there more? My goal is to provide only one version of an article which can be used for each destination. Which is already almost the case. For the future we should think about merging all those separated subdomains into one piece of website with a new navigation structure. I don't think they need to be technically merged together. Just one single navigation which can handle lots of links should do the trick. Best, Maurice

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IPFire Webinterface & Project Board
by Maurice Gesswein 01 May '18

01 May '18

Hi there, I would like to discuss 2 things: 1. Frontend technique for the upcoming IPFire Webinterface (what was the official name for it?) 2. Setup of a project board to keep us up to date. *IPFire Webinterface* I know that it will still take a while until we start with the Webinterface, but I want to discuss this early. I would like to suggest to use "CSS-Grid" for it instead of Bootstrap. Sven, if I remember right you customized Bootstrap a lot and it becomes a bit messy. Is this correct? I'm pretty sure that the IPFire Team is not looking for a standard prebuild Bootstrap Admin Interface which you can for free or you can buy for ~30$. They want a unique Interface. Means we need a customized Bootstrap. Michael, correct my if I'm wrong. If my assumption is right it doesn't worked well with the Website. Without Bootstrap the Design is not even more bound to Bootstrap's Layout Grid. During the last years I designed for responsive webapps and native mobile apps those grids restrict me more as they help. I also taked with a Frontend Dev at my work. He confirmed that such layout grids makes the code more complex if you need to break that grid for some usecases. Now with CSS-Grid it's pretty easy to build up a responsive layout. Sven, what do you think? If you are not so familiar with CSS-Grid now, take a look at this free course: https://cssgrid.io/ (sponsored by mozilla) *Project Board* What do you think about using a project board like Trello? With such a board it's easy to set up tasks for the involved members, follow the progress and it can be also used for reporting bugs. Honestly Bugzilla is extremly annoying to use. It's very mighty, of course. But takes 3x more time to create a new ticket as e.g. Trello takes and screenshots etc. can't be placed from the clipboard. Which is very very useful for bug-tickets ;) Personally I like Trello. Easy, fast, free. Github has a build in project board as well. It's pretty similar to Trello. There are also a couple if open source solutions around. Like wekan.github.io. Michael, what about making the process more transparent and efficient by using a project board? :) Looking forward for you feedbacks. Best, Maurice

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