Hello, there are Open-Source Alternatives to Slack for example: https://about.mattermost.com https://about.mattermost.com/ I have nothing against this mailing list but when you have a longer conversation I think that it becomes a little bit hard to read, and for a conversation over the phone we don’t have enough to discuss (at the moment) :-D But IM with Jabber is fine for me.
Greetings, Sven
Am 24.03.2017 um 12:57 schrieb Michael Tremer michael.tremer@ipfire.org:
Hi,
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 18:53 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
I've copied the current Homepage design from Photoshop to Sketch to speed up in the future. Same with the styleguide/pattern library.
Cool. Can we access that in some way? The Dropbox thing has vanished, too and I had someone working on the Captive Portal which we don't have a copy of.
Next step is to design the key viewports for the homepage. Already started with that. I'm pretty busy in the evenings with private stuff like home improvements and annoying things which needs to be done.
Furthermore I had the idea to create a Slack channel for a more comfortable collaboration with Sven. Discuss and share stuff very easily and fast. I have very good experience with that tool during the last ~2 years.
What do you think Michael, would you sign up and create a IPFire Slack channel? The free basic version is totally enough.
I am very much against Slack. There are two main reasons:
a) It is proprietary. We cannot rely on this being free for forever and I do not want to force anyone to sign up for something in order to communicate with people.
b) We cannot archive it. The big advantage of a mailing list is that we have an archive of all messages that everyone can access from everywhere.
That's why I would like to keep the main conversation on this list if possible. For some work it makes more sense to do some instant messaging or use a phone.
For that we do have our own Jabber server and a SIP VoIP server that you can even call from your landline (this might be quite handy since you two are in different countries):
http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/community/talk.ipfire.org/start
I hope this makes up for Slack. But if you have any other reasons I forgot to convince me, feel free to do so :)
Best, -Michael
Best, Maurice
Am 22.03.2017 6:24 nachm. schrieb "Michael Tremer" <michael.tremer@ip fire.org>:
Hello guys,
just wanted to check in on you and see how things are going since it has gone a little bit quiet here.
I am traveling over the next days again, but in case there is anything I can help out with, please send me an email.
Best, -Michael
On Wed, 2017-03-15 at 14:44 +0100, Sven wrote:
Hey Maurice, no problem. I will do it with the variables: https://getbootstrap.com/css/#gr
id-less so we
have complete control.
Greetings, Sven
On 15 Mar 2017, at 14:37, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung@gmail.c
om> wrote:
Hey Sven,
do you think we can do a tiny customization at Bootstrap 4's
column grid
system? Just 24px gutter width instead of 30px? I found a short
guide for
that. Seems pretty easy.
http://arnique.net/web-design/58/a-quick-guide-to-changing-boot
straps-gutter
-width/
From my point of view it looks like you just need to change
this:
.col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} { padding-right: 15px; padding-left: 15px; } .row { margin-right: -15px; margin-left: -15px; }
to this:
.col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} { padding-right: 12px; padding-left: 12px; } .row { margin-right: -12px; margin-left: -12px; }
That would help me to follow consistent UI metrics.
Best, Maurice
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer
@ipfire.org>
wrote:
It would be nice to keep the conversation in English since
there are
people reading our mailing lists who don't speak German.
I know it might be a little bit complicated in the beginning
but I am sure
we will all get used to it :)
-Michael
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 15:10 +0100, Sven wrote: > Hallo Maurice, > ich antworte einfach mal in Deutsch. Englisch kann ich gut
lesen und
verstehen > aber schreibe es nicht so gern. > > Im Moment baut die Seite ja auf Bootstrap auf, wird das
nicht
überflüssig wenn > du sowohl Grid als auch Pattern Library aufbaust? > In wie weit wir die Pattern Library über alle Projekte
teilen sollten
wir > sehen wenn die Webseite steht, da die im Moment Priorität
hat.
> > Freu mich auf die Zusammenarbeit. > > Grüße, > Sven > >> On 14 Mar 2017, at 14:25, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung@g
mail.com>
wrote: >> >> Don't worry about the delay :) >> >> As far as I can remember I didn't created responsive
versions of the
IPFire >> Website. It makes sense that these are at least almost
done before
Sven >> starts with coding. I don't want that Sven has to guess
the font
sizes, >> paddings, margins, line-height and so on. That's not his
job :) So
please >> stay tuned for a proper handover. I'm sure that will help
Sven a lot.
>> >> @Sven >> Hey Sven, nice to meet you :) >> >> I just want to give some information beforehand. You may
already know
that >> but I just want to get sure that we are both on the same
level.
>> >> My designs and layouts are based on a 8x8px grid (4x4px
fallback) and
are >> Atomic Design driven. Touch Targets are at least 48x48px.
In some edge
cases >> there might be less. Means that you will never see a
"margin: 50px"
because >> 50 is not dividable by 8 or 4. I would very appreciate if
you could
consider >> that within your code. That method provides a great
support to follow
a >> consistent line. I'm pretty sure that I'll provide all
designs via
>> zeplin.io. From that tool you will get (almost) every
information you
need. >> Margins, paddings, colors, font size, etc. >> >> Also I'm a big fan of Pattern Libraries. At least when it
comes to the
>> IPFire WUI there will be a lot of pattern usage to save
time on your
side. >> >> My strong guess is that it would make sense to have
different Pattern
>> Libraries for the Website/FireInfo and WUI. But that is
totally up to
you >> how to deal with that :) I think you already saw the
first designs for
the >> WUI? >> >> Hope that doesn't sound like an arrogant Designer.
Believe me that one
of my >> most important goals is to make the DEVs life as
comfortable as
possible by >> providing well prepared handovers. My experience with
that is that we
will >> get a great output and a professional looking UI/Website. >> >> >> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. >> >> Best, M >> >> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Michael Tremer <michael.
tremer@ipfire
.org> >> wrote: >>> Hello Maurice, >>> >>> thank you for getting back in touch. >>> >>> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:58 +0100, Maurice Gesswein
wrote:
>>>> Hi Sven and rest of the gang, >>>> >>>> I nearly thought that the project has died. I'm glad
to see that
this is >>> not >>>> the case. Since it's very long time ago I have to
check the old
PSD >>> files >>>> within the next days and make sure that you get a
good handover.
>>> >>> I can only apologise that everything took so long. I
would have
liked to >>> see >>> this realised quicker but time just didn't allow me to
work on it.
Luckily >>> Sven >>> is now on board to help out and together we will get
this done now!
>>> >>>> Perhaps I'll handover the designs via zeplin.io. I've
made very
good >>>> experience with that tool during last year. Please
give me some
days for >>>> preparing since I'm very busy right now. >>> >>> So where have we stopped? As far as I can see the
designs for the
index >>> and >>> features page are done. Is there anything I forgot? >>> >>> I think what Sven mainly needs is the background images
that you
used and >>> so on. >>> I am quite sure this doesn't need to be PSD in
particular.
>>> >>> If required we can have a conference call with
everyone, but I am
not sure >>> if >>> there are any big questions that we cannot discuss on
the list.
>>> >>> Best, >>> -Michael >>> >>>> Thanks and best regards, >>>> Maurice >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Michael Tremer <mic
hael.tremer@i
pfire. >>> org> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> to send emails to the list, you just need to email
to
>>>>> >>>>> ipfire-artwork@lists.ipfire.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I copied Maurice to your request and we will wait
until he
replies. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> -Michael >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 19:51 +0100, Sven wrote: >>>>>> Hi Maurice, >>>>>> can you please send me the PSD files from the new
layout
(Homepage >>> and >>>>>> Featurepage)? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Sven >>>> >>> >> >