Hi,
On Fri, 2017-03-24 at 18:01 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
At this stage it doesn't make sense to share the uncompleted stuff. It would cause a lot of questions which will not appear when I provide the complete set of viewports. You already know the final designs. I didn't change anything. Please give me the time to provide a professional handover to Sven. Otherwise it will become messy, believe me ;) I'm sorry that it takes some time. I'll publish the designs asap via Zeplin.
I didn't intend to put any pressure on at all. I just care about everyone being happy and not getting stuck :)
I'll prepare the captive portal designs as well.
Okay!
Regarding Slack: Valid points against it. I agree. Jabber should do the trick as well. Not that comfortable but fine for me.
Best, Maurice
-Michael
Am 24.03.2017 2:29 nachm. schrieb "Daniel Weismüller" <daniel.weismue ller@ipfire.org>:
Hi Here are some infos about our jabber server. http://planet.ipfire.org/post/opening-the-ipfire-jabber-server or look here http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/community/talk.ipfire.org/start Weekdays I'm on there and mostly Michael, too.
Daniel Am 24.03.2017 um 13:18 schrieb Sven:
Hello, there are Open-Source Alternatives to Slack for example: https:// about.mattermost.com I have nothing against this mailing list but when you have a longer conversation I think that it becomes a little bit hard to read, and for a conversation over the phone we don’t have enough to discuss (at the moment) :-D But IM with Jabber is fine for me.
Greetings, Sven
Am 24.03.2017 um 12:57 schrieb Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@i pfire.org>:
Hi,
On Wed, 2017-03-22 at 18:53 +0100, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
I've copied the current Homepage design from Photoshop to Sketch to speed up in the future. Same with the styleguide/pattern library.
Cool. Can we access that in some way? The Dropbox thing has vanished, too and I had someone working on the Captive Portal which we don't have a copy of.
Next step is to design the key viewports for the homepage. Already started with that. I'm pretty busy in the evenings with private stuff like home improvements and annoying things which needs to be done.
Furthermore I had the idea to create a Slack channel for a more comfortable collaboration with Sven. Discuss and share stuff very easily and fast. I have very good experience with that tool during the last ~2 years.
What do you think Michael, would you sign up and create a IPFire Slack channel? The free basic version is totally enough.
I am very much against Slack. There are two main reasons:
a) It is proprietary. We cannot rely on this being free for forever and I do not want to force anyone to sign up for something in order to communicate with people.
b) We cannot archive it. The big advantage of a mailing list is that we have an archive of all messages that everyone can access from everywhere.
That's why I would like to keep the main conversation on this list if possible. For some work it makes more sense to do some instant messaging or use a phone.
For that we do have our own Jabber server and a SIP VoIP server that you can even call from your landline (this might be quite handy since you two are in different countries):
http://wiki.ipfire.org/en/community/talk.ipfire.org/start
I hope this makes up for Slack. But if you have any other reasons I forgot to convince me, feel free to do so :)
Best, -Michael
Best, Maurice
Am 22.03.2017 6:24 nachm. schrieb "Michael Tremer" <michael.t remer@ip fire.org>:
Hello guys,
just wanted to check in on you and see how things are going since it has gone a little bit quiet here.
I am traveling over the next days again, but in case there is anything I can help out with, please send me an email.
Best, -Michael
On Wed, 2017-03-15 at 14:44 +0100, Sven wrote: > Hey Maurice, > no problem. > I will do it with the variables: https://getbootstrap.com > /css/#gr id-less so we > have complete control. > > Greetings, > Sven > > > > On 15 Mar 2017, at 14:37, Maurice Gesswein <zerpixelung > > @gmail.c om> wrote: > > Hey Sven, > > > > do you think we can do a tiny customization at > > Bootstrap 4's column grid > > system? Just 24px gutter width instead of 30px? I found > > a short guide for > > that. Seems pretty easy. > > > > http://arnique.net/web-design/58/a-quick-guide-to-chang > > ing-boot straps-gutter > > -width/ > > > > From my point of view it looks like you just need to > > change this: > > > .col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} { > > > padding-right: 15px; > > > padding-left: 15px; > > > } > > > .row { > > > margin-right: -15px; > > > margin-left: -15px; > > > } > > > > to this: > > > > > .col-xs-1, .col-sm-1, .col-md-1 ...{more columns} { > > > padding-right: 12px; > > > padding-left: 12px; > > > } > > > .row { > > > margin-right: -12px; > > > margin-left: -12px; > > > } > > > > That would help me to follow consistent UI metrics. > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael Tremer > > <michael.tremer @ipfire.org> > > wrote: > > > It would be nice to keep the conversation in English > > > since there are > > > people > > > reading our mailing lists who don't speak German. > > > > > > I know it might be a little bit complicated in the > > > beginning but I am sure > > > we > > > will all get used to it :) > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 15:10 +0100, Sven wrote: > > > > Hallo Maurice, > > > > ich antworte einfach mal in Deutsch. Englisch kann > > > > ich gut lesen und > > > verstehen > > > > aber schreibe es nicht so gern. > > > > > > > > Im Moment baut die Seite ja auf Bootstrap auf, wird > > > > das nicht > > > überflüssig wenn > > > > du sowohl Grid als auch Pattern Library aufbaust? > > > > In wie weit wir die Pattern Library über alle > > > > Projekte teilen sollten > > > wir > > > > sehen wenn die Webseite steht, da die im Moment > > > > Priorität hat. > > > > Freu mich auf die Zusammenarbeit. > > > > > > > > Grüße, > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > > On 14 Mar 2017, at 14:25, Maurice Gesswein <zerpi > > > > > xelung@g mail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > Don't worry about the delay :) > > > > > > > > > > As far as I can remember I didn't created > > > > > responsive versions of the > > > IPFire > > > > > Website. It makes sense that these are at least > > > > > almost done before > > > Sven > > > > > starts with coding. I don't want that Sven has to > > > > > guess the font > > > sizes, > > > > > paddings, margins, line-height and so on. That's > > > > > not his job :) So > > > please > > > > > stay tuned for a proper handover. I'm sure that > > > > > will help Sven a lot. > > > > > @Sven > > > > > Hey Sven, nice to meet you :) > > > > > > > > > > I just want to give some information beforehand. > > > > > You may already know > > > that > > > > > but I just want to get sure that we are both on > > > > > the same level. > > > > > My designs and layouts are based on a 8x8px grid > > > > > (4x4px fallback) and > > > are > > > > > Atomic Design driven. Touch Targets are at least > > > > > 48x48px. In some edge > > > cases > > > > > there might be less. Means that you will never > > > > > see a "margin: 50px" > > > because > > > > > 50 is not dividable by 8 or 4. I would very > > > > > appreciate if you could > > > consider > > > > > that within your code. That method provides a > > > > > great support to follow > > > a > > > > > consistent line. I'm pretty sure that I'll > > > > > provide all designs via > > > > > zeplin.io. From that tool you will get (almost) > > > > > every information you > > > need. > > > > > Margins, paddings, colors, font size, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Also I'm a big fan of Pattern Libraries. At least > > > > > when it comes to the > > > > > IPFire WUI there will be a lot of pattern usage > > > > > to save time on your > > > side. > > > > > My strong guess is that it would make sense to > > > > > have different Pattern > > > > > Libraries for the Website/FireInfo and WUI. But > > > > > that is totally up to > > > you > > > > > how to deal with that :) I think you already saw > > > > > the first designs for > > > the > > > > > WUI? > > > > > > > > > > Hope that doesn't sound like an arrogant > > > > > Designer. Believe me that one > > > of my > > > > > most important goals is to make the DEVs life as comfortable as > > > possible by > > > > > providing well prepared handovers. My experience > > > > > with that is that we > > > will > > > > > get a great output and a professional looking > > > > > UI/Website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know if you have any questions or > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > > > > > Best, M > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Michael Tremer > > > > > <michael. tremer@ipfire > > > .org> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Maurice, > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for getting back in touch. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:58 +0100, Maurice > > > > > > Gesswein wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Sven and rest of the gang, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I nearly thought that the project has died. > > > > > > > I'm glad to see that > > > this is > > > > > > not > > > > > > > the case. Since it's very long time ago I > > > > > > > have to check the old > > > PSD > > > > > > files > > > > > > > within the next days and make sure that you > > > > > > > get a good handover. > > > > > > I can only apologise that everything took so > > > > > > long. I would have > > > liked to > > > > > > see > > > > > > this realised quicker but time just didn't > > > > > > allow me to work on it. > > > Luckily > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > is now on board to help out and together we > > > > > > will get this done now! > > > > > > > Perhaps I'll handover the designs via > > > > > > > zeplin.io. I've made very > > > good > > > > > > > experience with that tool during last year. > > > > > > > Please give me some > > > days for > > > > > > > preparing since I'm very busy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > So where have we stopped? As far as I can see > > > > > > the designs for the > > > index > > > > > > and > > > > > > features page are done. Is there anything I > > > > > > forgot? > > > > > > > > > > > > I think what Sven mainly needs is the > > > > > > background images that you > > > used and > > > > > > so on. > > > > > > I am quite sure this doesn't need to be PSD in particular. > > > > > > If required we can have a conference call with everyone, but I am > > > not sure > > > > > > if > > > > > > there are any big questions that we cannot > > > > > > discuss on the list. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best regards, > > > > > > > Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Michael > > > > > > > Tremer <mic hael.tremer@i > > > pfire. > > > > > > org> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to send emails to the list, you just need > > > > > > > > to email to > > > > > > > > ipfire-artwork@lists.ipfire.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I copied Maurice to your request and we > > > > > > > > will wait until he > > > replies. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 19:51 +0100, Sven > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Maurice, > > > > > > > > > can you please send me the PSD files from > > > > > > > > > the new layout > > > (Homepage > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Featurepage)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >