Hello,
On Thu, 2018-07-19 at 21:39 +0200, Maurice Gesswein wrote:
Looks like you did a lot of cleaning tasks, Michael :) I really like to throw away stuff and pages which are very similar to each other or not really used or helpful.
Yes, loads of the content needs to be rewritten. On the donation page we mainly have dummy texts which have to be written for the first time.
I would like to decide on the final wording when we have finished the design, but until then, please feel free to make suggestions or draw a few sketches :)
- I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 alpha 6
to 4.2.1)
Am I the only one who see A LOT of broken things cause of that - I guess - version upgrade? How should this be handled now? Or is the upgrade still in progress?
Yes, this is still work in progress. A lot of stuff has changed because of Bootstrap changing a lot since the alpha release.
Other things have changed, because I put them into the variables which allows us to write a lot less CSS. However, I mainly concentrated on migrating everything and paid less attention to the mobile viewports for example.
Can we collect a list somewhere about what is incorrect? Starting with the most major things? I guess the index & features page is best and then move on to the rest.
Would you like to create tickets on Bugzilla and assign them to me?
Best, -Michael
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:10 PM Michael Tremer michael.tremer@ipfire.org wrote:
Don't worry, I will keep you in the loop for now and there will still be plenty to do after version one is being rolled out.
I will write an email shortly about the blog and that I cut corners :) That needs to be sorted eventually and I am happy to get some help with that.
Best, -Michael
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 13:08 +0200, Sven wrote:
Great news. I am really sorry that at the moment I can’t help, I really like the
project
and I hope that in the near future I will have some time to help you
again.
Greetings, Sven
On 18. Jul 2018, at 13:02, Michael Tremer michael.tremer@ipfire.org
wrote:
Hello *,
for the time being, I am taking over from Sven who is caught up in work
and
I really need to move forward rolling out the website as soon as possible
now.
So I will keep you posted with a few updates that I am making. I am also doing some backend works and this is a short summary of what I did this week:
- I removed the planet & news pages
- I added a new backend for the blog and merged all news and
planet posts together
- I added a nice full-text search :)
- I cleaned up some of the backend code and this will continue
On the frontend side:
- I rebased Sven's code on the latest version of Bootstrap (from 4 alpha
6
to 4.2.1)
- I moved a lot of the CSS into variables and it is now dynamically
compiled
from SASS to CSS when ever something is changed.
- I removed loads of old pages that we no longer need as well as images
(so
loads and loads of house-keeping)
- I implemented the blog
For this I have loads of questions, requests and ideas for improvements which I will put into a separate email
- I implemented the form to the donation page
I did that in a slightly different way because the popup won't work
since
we will already have a popup that encourages people to make their
donation
a recurring one - please see that as a proposal. I will also send an
extra
email about the donation page
- I also tried to rework pages like the legal page. I guess I failed
terribly on that one design-wise. So we will have to talk what we can do about the
other
pages.
At the moment the site isn't online. I am installing a new web server
that
will host it for now and soon will be running the production version of it. I will let you know when that is online.
Best, -Michael
On Wed, 2018-05-30 at 12:21 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
Hello,
I just wanted to make a request about the donation page.
Can we have a field where people can enter a comment? Some people just write "Thank you" and some other write what features they would like to see
in
the future and this is usually a good way to communicate that.
It could potentially go under the address input. It doesn't have to be very big. Only two lines or so.
Best, -Michael
On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:01 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote:
Ah cool, just found it (again :D).
Is there any progress with the implementation of that, yet?
I guess you might want to remove the <form> tag that I added again,
but
I suppose the functionality is clear through this.
-Michael
On Tue, 2018-05-22 at 16:51 +0200, Sven wrote: > We have a layout for the address-stuff. > > > > On 22. May 2018, at 16:39, Michael Tremer <michael.tremer@ipfire
.org
> > > > > wrote: > > > > Hello guys, > > > > I continued working on the backend of the donation stuff since > > contract > > work > > with the payment providers is soon coming to an end I would like
to
> > be > > able > > to > > accept donations through this as soon as possible. > > > > So the backend work has kept me busy for weeks now and I have a > > rough > > version > > running that sends out the right emails with SEPA mandates in
> > forms > > and > > so > > on... > > > > On the frontend, this is now super easy to use and I implemented > > everything > > that > > we need so far: > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c361abc
1a73
> > d9c > > 7b > > 3f > > f8d > > 82da5e769e7378a128 > > > > The huge change in donate.html is just because I added a <form>
tag
> > and > > indented > > every line in the block by one tab. > > > > All the magic happens in handlers.py. When a user clicks on the > > donate > > button, > > we will send a request to my accounting software with all the > > details > > and > > then > > redirect the user to the right payment page. Fairly easy. So far > > they > > will > > never > > come back. > > > > As you can see in the code, I added dummy values for the name, > > address > > and > > some > > other inputs. So far I think we don't even have designs for that > > part of > > the > > donation form. Is that correct Maurice? > > > > @Sven: Is the application back up and running on your
development
> > machine? > > > > Best, > > -Michael > > > > On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 12:20 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > yes I will have a look at that. It has been a bit of a problem > > > since > > > it > > > is > > > hosted in a different data centre and connecting back to the
main
> > > database > > > using > > > a VPN. If that is unavailable for a bit, the webapp loses > > > connectivity > > > to > > > the > > > database and from then on there are those issues. > > > > > > Please just shoot me an email when ever it breaks down and I
can
> > > restart > > > it. > > > > > > Best, > > > -Michael > > > > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 19:46 +0000, Maurice Gesswein wrote: > > > > Unfortunately dev.ipfire.org is pretty often down, not
reachable
> > > > or > > > > shows > > > > 500 > > > > error. No issues with www.ipfire.org. Any chance that you
could
> > > > fix > > > > this > > > > permanently Michael? :) > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM Michael Tremer <michael.trem
er@i
> > > > pfir > > > > e. > > > > or > > > > g> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > > > > > the backend for the fireinfo country thing is being > > > > > implemented: > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4
00e3
> > > > > 7d7 > > > > > af > > > > > 60 > > > > > ebc > > > > > 45 > > > > > 45ec8966a6dd7ff5c213e5 > > > > > > > > > > I adjusted the website a little bit and removed the other
two
> > > > > dials. > > > > > This > > > > > is > > > > > just for showing how this works, but I am sure you won't
be
> > > > > happy > > > > > with > > > > > what > > > > > I > > > > > did, so please feel free to change. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 10:14 +0100, Michael Tremer wrote: > > > > > > Could one of you create a bug ticket then to remind me
what
> > > > > > this > > > > > > site > > > > > > nagivation > > > > > > issue was about again? > > > > > > > > > > > > So far we have four tickets open and many many are
already
> > > > > > closed: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.ipfire.org/showdependencygraph.cgi?id=1
1314
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 07:50 +0200, Sven wrote: > > > > > > > Of course we have to fix the bugs. > > > > > > > But for example the sidebar navigation bug has no
entry in
> > > > > > > the > > > > > > > bugzilla > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > my computer the text overlaps but I can’t see the > > > > > > > flickering. > > > > > > > I know that there is still a lot to do without design
work
> > > > > > > from > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > part, > > > > > > > Maurice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 18:10 schrieb Maurice Gesswein > > > > > > > > <maurice.gesswei > > > > > > > > n@ip > > > > > > > > fi > > > > > > > > > > re.o > > > > > > > > rg > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, this is no fingerpointing or something like
that.
> > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > rude > > > > > > > > comment! I'm wondering what about the major
available
> > > > > > > > bugs > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > flickering > > > > > > > > Sidenavigation during browser resize and overlapping > > > > > > > > text in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > left > > > > > > > > sidebar at the feature page? Should this be fixed in
the
> > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > end? > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > words there are some major and a lot of minor bugs
which
> > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > addressed > > > > > > > > while no new designs/layouts are available. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My next todo is the blog article. Defining the text > > > > > > > > formation. > > > > > > > > Think > > > > > > > > > > I'll > > > > > > > > have a bit of time to work on this during the next
2-3
> > > > > > > > weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Maurice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sven sven.hoehn@posteo.de schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. > > > > > > > > 2018, > > > > > > > > 16:58: > > > > > > > > > This week busy … hope to have a bit of time the
next
> > > > > > > > > weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please implement the stats in the backend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is with the Planet do we rename it to Blog
and
> > > > > > > > > move > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > top > > > > > > > > > navigation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:59 schrieb Michael Tremer > > > > > > > > > > <michael.treme > > > > > > > > > > r@ip > > > > > > > > > > fi > > > > > > > > > > re.o > > > > > > > > > > rg > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 14:47 +0200, Sven wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > at the moment no news from my side. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is your availability in the next few days
and
> > > > > > > > > > weeks? > > > > > > > > > > Are > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > busy with > > > > > > > > > > other things or do you think that we can make
some
> > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > progress? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if you order the page content, we still
have
> > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > decide > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fireinfo > > > > > > > > > > > Stats to put on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, thanks for reminding me. Let's go with the > > > > > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > > two > > > > > > > > > > things: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * The latest version and how many systems are > > > > > > > > > > running it > > > > > > > > > > (as > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > already). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * As a second thing, let's pick a random country
for
> > > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (potentially > > > > > > > > > > one of the top 20 or so where percentages are
not
> > > > > > > > > > toooo > > > > > > > > > > small, > > > > > > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > above 1%) and show the gauge for how many of the > > > > > > > > > > systems > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > running > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > country. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So for example: Germany (45%) or Switzerland
(5%)
> > > > > > > > > > and so > > > > > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that is a quite interesting statistic
and
> > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > CPU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > are using because Intel is quite obvious any
ways...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you want me to implement the backend like
last
> > > > > > > > > > time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 25.04.2018 um 14:02 schrieb Michael
Tremer
> > > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tremer@ > > > > > > > > > > ipfi > > > > > > > > > > > > re.o > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rg>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me again. I went ahead and made a few
changes to
> > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > website. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is mostly all backend: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * A bit of tidying up of some messy code or > > > > > > > > > > > > changes > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
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page.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody > > > > > > > > > > > > seems > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire.org.git;a=c
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think
> > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > wise > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > any more. We should rather encourage people
to
> > > > > > > > > > > > set > > > > > > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > recurring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > donation > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of searching features that are > > > > > > > > > > > > interesting > > > > > > > > > > > > enough to > > > > > > > > > > > > donate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > money > > > > > > > > > > > > to because that takes money away from
security-
> > > > > > > > > > > > related > > > > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > very exciting for our users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The second one drop the entire German > > > > > > > > > > > > translation. > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > > have a > > > > > > > > > > > > lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > > ahead of us and I am going to improve some
of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > texts, > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > afford > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this for German as well. Nobody
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English
> > > > > > > > > > > > for a > > > > > > > > > > > > while. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know your comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also merged everything from your branch > > > > > > > > > > > > together > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > changes to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > website in the meantime. Sven, please
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> > > > > > > > > > > > working > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > branch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can do this as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git fetch origin > > > > > > > > > > > > git reset --hard origin/next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And then just keep committing and pushing to > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > repository > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > usual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > > push needs to overwrite the old branch: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git push shoehn +master > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The plus sign overwrites all changes in the
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> > > > > > > > > > > > branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 11:06 +0100, Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any status update other than this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know where I can support. I am
excited
> > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > website > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > close to rolling it out. What is left on
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > todo > > > > > > > > > > > > > list? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-04-24 at 10:55 +0100, Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but right now we are not even
anywhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > near > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 250 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really really pointless... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-04-23 at 17:19 +0200, Sven > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 Euro each month would be great
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Michael
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tremer > > > > > > > > > > <michael.tre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mer@ipfi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > re > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They generally do offer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that, but require a minimum turnover
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EUR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > month