Unending item build

Unending item build

[Matthias Fischer]

Hi all,

I'd like to warm up an old problem...perhaps I found something like a
solution.

The original problem is rather old - it dates from 2025-01-15. It still
can be found here:
https://marc.info/?l=ipfire-development&m=173691503411708

Once in a while I experienced the same problem like Jon - building
stopped suddenly: "./make.sh build  goes into a loop and builds an item
forever." And it doesn't matter which item. Either the counter kept
running indefinitely, or it stopped displaying anything at all.

That was pretty annoying. No errors, nothing in the logs. After stopping
the build with CTRL-C and restarting the whole build, usually everything
ran through and worked again as if nothing had happened.

The last message often was just "make: Leaving directory '/usr/src/lfs'"
and that was all.

Lastly I was thinking it might have something to do with counters.
So I changed "while sleep 1" to "while sleep 2" in 'make.sh'. Nothing more.

Since then buildings are running without stopping anymore...

Did anyone had similar problems?

Best
Matthias

Re: Unending item build

[Michael Tremer]

Hello Matthias,

> On 8 Jun 2026, at 12:58, Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'd like to warm up an old problem...perhaps I found something like a
> solution.
> 
> The original problem is rather old - it dates from 2025-01-15. It still
> can be found here:
> https://marc.info/?l=ipfire-development&m=173691503411708
> 
> Once in a while I experienced the same problem like Jon - building
> stopped suddenly: "./make.sh build  goes into a loop and builds an item
> forever." And it doesn't matter which item. Either the counter kept
> running indefinitely, or it stopped displaying anything at all.
> 
> That was pretty annoying. No errors, nothing in the logs. After stopping
> the build with CTRL-C and restarting the whole build, usually everything
> ran through and worked again as if nothing had happened.
> 
> The last message often was just "make: Leaving directory '/usr/src/lfs'"
> and that was all.
> 
> Lastly I was thinking it might have something to do with counters.
> So I changed "while sleep 1" to "while sleep 2" in 'make.sh'. Nothing more.
> 
> Since then buildings are running without stopping anymore...
> 
> Did anyone had similar problems?

Very rarely. I think I have seen it before, but I cannot reproduce it at all.

I am happy to remove the timer entirely because it would be sufficient to see the build time after the package has finished building.

Would anyone be opposed to that?

-Michael

> Best
> Matthias
> 
> 

Re: Unending item build

[Matthias Fischer]

On 08.06.2026 16:03, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Hello Matthias,

Hi Michael,

>> On 8 Jun 2026, at 12:58, Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'd like to warm up an old problem...perhaps I found something like a
>> solution.
>> 
>> The original problem is rather old - it dates from 2025-01-15. It still
>> can be found here:
>> https://marc.info/?l=ipfire-development&m=173691503411708
>> 
>> Once in a while I experienced the same problem like Jon - building
>> stopped suddenly: "./make.sh build  goes into a loop and builds an item
>> forever." And it doesn't matter which item. Either the counter kept
>> running indefinitely, or it stopped displaying anything at all.
>> 
>> That was pretty annoying. No errors, nothing in the logs. After stopping
>> the build with CTRL-C and restarting the whole build, usually everything
>> ran through and worked again as if nothing had happened.
>> 
>> The last message often was just "make: Leaving directory '/usr/src/lfs'"
>> and that was all.
>> 
>> Lastly I was thinking it might have something to do with counters.
>> So I changed "while sleep 1" to "while sleep 2" in 'make.sh'. Nothing more.
>> 
>> Since then buildings are running without stopping anymore...
>> 
>> Did anyone had similar problems?
> 
> Very rarely. I think I have seen it before, but I cannot reproduce it at all.

Yep. It happens just now and then, you never know when and why...

> I am happy to remove the timer entirely because it would be sufficient to see the build time after the package has finished building.

+1. You got my vote. The simpler, the better.
> Would anyone be opposed to that?

No. ;-)

Best
Matthias

Re: Unending item build

[Adolf Belka]

Hi Michael and Matthias,

On 08/06/2026 16:09, Matthias Fischer wrote:
> On 08.06.2026 16:03, Michael Tremer wrote:
>> Hello Matthias,
> Hi Michael,
>
>>> On 8 Jun 2026, at 12:58, Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'd like to warm up an old problem...perhaps I found something like a
>>> solution.
>>>
>>> The original problem is rather old - it dates from 2025-01-15. It still
>>> can be found here:
>>> https://marc.info/?l=ipfire-development&m=173691503411708
>>>
>>> Once in a while I experienced the same problem like Jon - building
>>> stopped suddenly: "./make.sh build  goes into a loop and builds an item
>>> forever." And it doesn't matter which item. Either the counter kept
>>> running indefinitely, or it stopped displaying anything at all.
>>>
>>> That was pretty annoying. No errors, nothing in the logs. After stopping
>>> the build with CTRL-C and restarting the whole build, usually everything
>>> ran through and worked again as if nothing had happened.
>>>
>>> The last message often was just "make: Leaving directory '/usr/src/lfs'"
>>> and that was all.
>>>
>>> Lastly I was thinking it might have something to do with counters.
>>> So I changed "while sleep 1" to "while sleep 2" in 'make.sh'. Nothing more.
>>>
>>> Since then buildings are running without stopping anymore...
>>>
>>> Did anyone had similar problems?
>> Very rarely. I think I have seen it before, but I cannot reproduce it at all.
> Yep. It happens just now and then, you never know when and why...

I also very occasionally get the same problem. I have also had it when 
doing a build on the IPFire aarch64 and riscv64 builder.
>> I am happy to remove the timer entirely because it would be sufficient to see the build time after the package has finished building.
> +1. You got my vote. The simpler, the better.
>> Would anyone be opposed to that?
> No. ;-)

I have no problems with that.

Regards,

Adolf.
> Best
> Matthias
>
>

-- 
Sent from my laptop

Re: Unending item build

[Stefan Schantl]

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Hi @all,

I've also stumbled over this issue from time to time.

So let's give the fix a try.

Best regards,

-Stefan
Am 8. Juni 2026 18:14:30 schrieb Adolf Belka <adolf.belka@ipfire.org>:

> Hi Michael and Matthias,
>
> On 08/06/2026 16:09, Matthias Fischer wrote:
>> On 08.06.2026 16:03, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>> Hello Matthias,
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>>>> On 8 Jun 2026, at 12:58, Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to warm up an old problem...perhaps I found something like a
>>>> solution.
>>>>
>>>> The original problem is rather old - it dates from 2025-01-15. It still
>>>> can be found here:
>>>> https://marc.info/?l=ipfire-development&m=173691503411708
>>>>
>>>> Once in a while I experienced the same problem like Jon - building
>>>> stopped suddenly: "./make.sh build  goes into a loop and builds an item
>>>> forever." And it doesn't matter which item. Either the counter kept
>>>> running indefinitely, or it stopped displaying anything at all.
>>>>
>>>> That was pretty annoying. No errors, nothing in the logs. After stopping
>>>> the build with CTRL-C and restarting the whole build, usually everything
>>>> ran through and worked again as if nothing had happened.
>>>>
>>>> The last message often was just "make: Leaving directory '/usr/src/lfs'"
>>>> and that was all.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly I was thinking it might have something to do with counters.
>>>> So I changed "while sleep 1" to "while sleep 2" in 'make.sh'. Nothing more.
>>>>
>>>> Since then buildings are running without stopping anymore...
>>>>
>>>> Did anyone had similar problems?
>>> Very rarely. I think I have seen it before, but I cannot reproduce it at all.
>> Yep. It happens just now and then, you never know when and why...
>
> I also very occasionally get the same problem. I have also had it when
> doing a build on the IPFire aarch64 and riscv64 builder.
>>> I am happy to remove the timer entirely because it would be sufficient to 
>>> see the build time after the package has finished building.
>> +1. You got my vote. The simpler, the better.
>>> Would anyone be opposed to that?
>> No. ;-)
>
> I have no problems with that.
>
> Regards,
>
> Adolf.
>> Best
>> Matthias
>
> --
> Sent from my laptop


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Re: Unending item build

[Matthias Fischer]

Hi all,

Okay, I got my hopes up too soon — after about ten rounds with 'next'
and several builds the build got stuck again today. This time it stopped
while compiling a firmware update which needs about four seconds. Timer
disappeared and nothing happens...

So my 'sleep 2' fix looked good at first sight, worked for a few days,
but didn't help, sorry.

@Michael:
How do I get rid of this d**** counter the fastest and easiest way...!? ;-)

Best
Matthias

On 08.06.2026 18:55, Stefan Schantl wrote:
> 
> Hi @all,
> 
> I've also stumbled over this issue from time to time.
> 
> So let's give the fix a try.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -Stefan
> Am 8. Juni 2026 18:14:30 schrieb Adolf Belka <adolf.belka@ipfire.org>:
> 
>> Hi Michael and Matthias,
>>
>> On 08/06/2026 16:09, Matthias Fischer wrote:
>>> On 08.06.2026 16:03, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>> Hello Matthias,
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>>>> On 8 Jun 2026, at 12:58, Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to warm up an old problem...perhaps I found something like a
>>>>> solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> The original problem is rather old - it dates from 2025-01-15. It still
>>>>> can be found here:
>>>>> https://marc.info/?l=ipfire-development&m=173691503411708
>>>>>
>>>>> Once in a while I experienced the same problem like Jon - building
>>>>> stopped suddenly: "./make.sh build  goes into a loop and builds an item
>>>>> forever." And it doesn't matter which item. Either the counter kept
>>>>> running indefinitely, or it stopped displaying anything at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was pretty annoying. No errors, nothing in the logs. After stopping
>>>>> the build with CTRL-C and restarting the whole build, usually everything
>>>>> ran through and worked again as if nothing had happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> The last message often was just "make: Leaving directory '/usr/src/lfs'"
>>>>> and that was all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly I was thinking it might have something to do with counters.
>>>>> So I changed "while sleep 1" to "while sleep 2" in 'make.sh'. Nothing more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since then buildings are running without stopping anymore...
>>>>>
>>>>> Did anyone had similar problems?
>>>> Very rarely. I think I have seen it before, but I cannot reproduce it at all.
>>> Yep. It happens just now and then, you never know when and why...
>>
>> I also very occasionally get the same problem. I have also had it when
>> doing a build on the IPFire aarch64 and riscv64 builder.
>>>> I am happy to remove the timer entirely because it would be sufficient to 
>>>> see the build time after the package has finished building.
>>> +1. You got my vote. The simpler, the better.
>>>> Would anyone be opposed to that?
>>> No. ;-)
>>
>> I have no problems with that.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Adolf.
>>> Best
>>> Matthias
>>
>> --
>> Sent from my laptop
> 
> 

Re: Unending item build

[Michael Tremer]

Hello Matthias,

You can run the build like this: ./make.sh build < /dev/null

The script will then think that it is not talking to a console and just print the default output instead of the timer.

Best,
-Michael

> On 9 Jun 2026, at 18:47, Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Okay, I got my hopes up too soon — after about ten rounds with 'next'
> and several builds the build got stuck again today. This time it stopped
> while compiling a firmware update which needs about four seconds. Timer
> disappeared and nothing happens...
> 
> So my 'sleep 2' fix looked good at first sight, worked for a few days,
> but didn't help, sorry.
> 
> @Michael:
> How do I get rid of this d**** counter the fastest and easiest way...!? ;-)
> 
> Best
> Matthias
> 
> On 08.06.2026 18:55, Stefan Schantl wrote:
>> 
>> Hi @all,
>> 
>> I've also stumbled over this issue from time to time.
>> 
>> So let's give the fix a try.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> -Stefan
>> Am 8. Juni 2026 18:14:30 schrieb Adolf Belka <adolf.belka@ipfire.org>:
>> 
>>> Hi Michael and Matthias,
>>> 
>>> On 08/06/2026 16:09, Matthias Fischer wrote:
>>>> On 08.06.2026 16:03, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>> Hello Matthias,
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8 Jun 2026, at 12:58, Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like to warm up an old problem...perhaps I found something like a
>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The original problem is rather old - it dates from 2025-01-15. It still
>>>>>> can be found here:
>>>>>> https://marc.info/?l=ipfire-development&m=173691503411708
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Once in a while I experienced the same problem like Jon - building
>>>>>> stopped suddenly: "./make.sh build  goes into a loop and builds an item
>>>>>> forever." And it doesn't matter which item. Either the counter kept
>>>>>> running indefinitely, or it stopped displaying anything at all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That was pretty annoying. No errors, nothing in the logs. After stopping
>>>>>> the build with CTRL-C and restarting the whole build, usually everything
>>>>>> ran through and worked again as if nothing had happened.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The last message often was just "make: Leaving directory '/usr/src/lfs'"
>>>>>> and that was all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lastly I was thinking it might have something to do with counters.
>>>>>> So I changed "while sleep 1" to "while sleep 2" in 'make.sh'. Nothing more.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since then buildings are running without stopping anymore...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did anyone had similar problems?
>>>>> Very rarely. I think I have seen it before, but I cannot reproduce it at all.
>>>> Yep. It happens just now and then, you never know when and why...
>>> 
>>> I also very occasionally get the same problem. I have also had it when
>>> doing a build on the IPFire aarch64 and riscv64 builder.
>>>>> I am happy to remove the timer entirely because it would be sufficient to 
>>>>> see the build time after the package has finished building.
>>>> +1. You got my vote. The simpler, the better.
>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to that?
>>>> No. ;-)
>>> 
>>> I have no problems with that.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Adolf.
>>>> Best
>>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sent from my laptop
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

How to disable the item timer? (was: Re: Unending item build)

[Matthias Fischer]

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Hi Michael,

On 09.06.2026 20:24, Michael Tremer wrote:
> You can run the build like this: ./make.sh build < /dev/null
> 
> The script will then think that it is not talking to a console and just print the default output instead of the timer.

This worked for a while - today the system suddenly thinks that it needs
*two* timers - on 'next'. Hm!

One timer is always "0", the other is showing the build time of the
current item. Both are not counting (see screenshot). Besides that, all
is running, but... ;-)

Is there a chance to disable these timers completely? The only one which
I think is useful would be the buildtime of the whole build at the end.
I don't need nothing more...

Best
Matthias

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Re: How to disable the item timer? (was: Re: Unending item build)

[Michael Tremer]

Hello Matthias,

This is very interesting.

I have removed the timer completely from next, so if you are building against next, you shouldn’t run into any problems any more.

  https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire-2.x.git;a=commitdiff;h=31d52aabde211aabb3ce376b87a0b397b3abe270

All the best,
-Michael

> On 15 Jun 2026, at 13:22, Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> On 09.06.2026 20:24, Michael Tremer wrote:
>> You can run the build like this: ./make.sh build < /dev/null
>> 
>> The script will then think that it is not talking to a console and just print the default output instead of the timer.
> 
> This worked for a while - today the system suddenly thinks that it needs
> *two* timers - on 'next'. Hm!
> 
> One timer is always "0", the other is showing the build time of the
> current item. Both are not counting (see screenshot). Besides that, all
> is running, but... ;-)
> 
> Is there a chance to disable these timers completely? The only one which
> I think is useful would be the buildtime of the whole build at the end.
> I don't need nothing more...
> 
> Best
> Matthias
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Re: How to disable the item timer?

[Matthias Fischer]

On 16.06.2026 12:58, Michael Tremer wrote:
> Hello Matthias,
> 
> This is very interesting.
> 
> I have removed the timer completely from next, so if you are building against next, you shouldn’t run into any problems any more.

Great - thanks!

>   https://git.ipfire.org/?p=ipfire-2.x.git;a=commitdiff;h=31d52aabde211aabb3ce376b87a0b397b3abe270
> 
> All the best,
> -Michael
> 
>> On 15 Jun 2026, at 13:22, Matthias Fischer <matthias.fischer@ipfire.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> On 09.06.2026 20:24, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>> You can run the build like this: ./make.sh build < /dev/null
>>> 
>>> The script will then think that it is not talking to a console and just print the default output instead of the timer.
>> 
>> This worked for a while - today the system suddenly thinks that it needs
>> *two* timers - on 'next'. Hm!
>> 
>> One timer is always "0", the other is showing the build time of the
>> current item. Both are not counting (see screenshot). Besides that, all
>> is running, but... ;-)
>> 
>> Is there a chance to disable these timers completely? The only one which
>> I think is useful would be the buildtime of the whole build at the end.
>> I don't need nothing more...
>> 
>> Best
>> Matthias
>> <2026-06-15 - Timers on Devel 2.jpg>
> 
>